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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4550 on: July 06, 2020, 08:17:05 PM »
So the BLM goals are directly quoted from an organization that is associated with? Interesting.

And yeah, I still think their not very organized. I think they can bring certain emotions to bear at times, but lack either control or coherence. If you feel they're a political force on par with the two parties, I just think that sounds like shadow puppets cast large on a wall to scare the children.

Whatever force it has is in being a vague idea, not much more than that.
“ an organization they are associated with”.    Now that is humorous.  Parent organization, co founded, etc etc...

As usual, we will agree to disagree. Different opinions about the same facts.  I encourage you to look a bit closer at the signs being held or graffiti being sprayed.  When you see the ones that say “ eliminate prisons” and “ redistribute the wealth” and “death to capitalism” you can just rise your theory and assume those are not associated with BLM or any of the same people. 

apparently some of the most socially aware and focused companies, like Nike, refuse to donate to BLM because they don’t agree with their agenda.  Must not believe in social justice?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4551 on: July 06, 2020, 08:17:36 PM »
Heh I have a hard time driving to aldis for it. I don't really love it, but part of that is not cooking it enough to get good at it.
Get an electric smoker
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4552 on: July 06, 2020, 08:25:46 PM »
“ an organization they are associated with”.    Now that is humorous.  Parent organization, co founded, etc etc...
 
We all know it's a vast top-down highly organized and completely internally consistent group, taking orders from the HBIC... Oprah. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4553 on: July 06, 2020, 08:41:39 PM »

We all know it's a vast top-down highly organized and completely internally consistent group, taking orders from the HBIC... Oprah.
You just can’t submit to facts when your narrative is challenged can you.   You throw a lot of data out there on COVID.  But when you see the written words of a political organization that is front and center you can only try to demean the messenger.

nice.   I see that a lot these days.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4554 on: July 06, 2020, 08:47:27 PM »

We all know it's a vast top-down highly organized and completely internally consistent group, taking orders from the HBIC... Oprah.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/black-lives-matter-releases-policy-agenda-n620966

this is not new news.   Sorry to upset you.  This is from NBC news, an extremely liberal network.  


what personal attack do you have for me now?  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4555 on: July 06, 2020, 09:00:09 PM »
“ an organization they are associated with”.    Now that is humorous.  Parent organization, co founded, etc etc...

As usual, we will agree to disagree. Different opinions about the same facts.  I encourage you to look a bit closer at the signs being held or graffiti being sprayed.  When you see the ones that say “ eliminate prisons” and “ redistribute the wealth” and “death to capitalism” you can just rise your theory and assume those are not associated with BLM or any of the same people.

apparently some of the most socially aware and focused companies, like Nike, refuse to donate to BLM because they don’t agree with their agenda.  Must not believe in social justice?
Agreeing to disagree seems to be what it is. We're digging into signage and graffiti at this point. 

Again, I'm not particularly ride or die for BLM in general. I think certain elements of prisons need to be reformed, same with police. I'd have to dig in on the Nike stuff, though a quick google didn't bring up the word "refused." Granted, I also understand the reasons for not donating to the org, since as I said earlier, I doubt its organization.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4556 on: July 06, 2020, 09:32:32 PM »
Get an electric smoker
I'm going for that part when the salmon is just cooked through and the skin is the consistency of crispy bacon

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4557 on: July 06, 2020, 09:40:34 PM »
Isn't that the politicians' job?
yes, but they do everything but their job

mostly finger pointing and blaming of the "other" party
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4558 on: July 06, 2020, 10:23:50 PM »
Protests against systemic racism held in 300-plus U.S. cities following the death of George Floyd did not cause a significant increase in coronavirus infections, according to a team of economists who have published their findings in a 60-page paper released by the National Bureau of Economic Research; these somewhat surprising results are supported by Covid-19 testing data in many populous cities where demonstrations were held.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/?fbclid=IwAR3S1PTEWJWRvmYi08olXHGJpO7rFccPjpuyVUS_fnf5uUUuCqodPWdbnp8#639511c17dac
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4559 on: July 06, 2020, 10:26:20 PM »
Before all the looting and riots, the mediots were howling that the virus was racist, disproportionately infecting "People of Color" 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4560 on: July 06, 2020, 10:42:45 PM »
Protests against systemic racism held in 300-plus U.S. cities following the death of George Floyd did not cause a significant increase in coronavirus infections, according to a team of economists who have published their findings in a 60-page paper released by the National Bureau of Economic Research; these somewhat surprising results are supported by Covid-19 testing data in many populous cities where demonstrations were held.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/?fbclid=IwAR3S1PTEWJWRvmYi08olXHGJpO7rFccPjpuyVUS_fnf5uUUuCqodPWdbnp8#639511c17dac
😂😂😂.  You can’t make this stuff up.    They aren’t even asking new cases if they were protesters lol.  Apparently the mayors of several large cities, like LA are now admitting that the protests did spread the virus..
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4561 on: July 06, 2020, 10:58:25 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4562 on: July 06, 2020, 11:04:20 PM »
My 2 cents. I honestly don’t know from a legislative standpoint how much more can be done to help blacks get on equal footing in this country. Maybe that is my coming from my blind, naive white privilege but I really don’t.

If their goal is to stop police from killing blacks then they are trying to stop something that happens rarely anyway.  I’m sure we are all aware whites are killed by cops more than blacks are. The rebuttal to that always seems to be that they make up 13% of the population but account for 25% or so of police killings. But blacks also commit roughly 50% of the murders in the country which leads me to believe they may be more likely to interact with the cops in a violent way.

I’ve heard the study about black sounding names not getting as many call backs on their resume.  But that was basically limited to first names like Lakeisha or Jamal. When historically black last names like Jefferson or Washington were looked at there was no difference in call backs. If anyone cared enough to do a study on white hillbilly names like Betty Sue or Jim Bob or Bubba I wonder if it wouldn’t yield the same results as Lakeisha or Jamal.

Any degree of better is better and if there is something that can be done to help further black opportunities then it should be done. But I have to admit that sometimes I just kinda shrug my shoulders like “what else can we do?” from a legislative standpoint.  But there legitimately might be a ton that I’m just missing.

I’m still in the camp that the greatest obstacle to blacks escaping poverty is the absence of black fathers.

My two cents.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4563 on: July 07, 2020, 05:51:19 AM »
Isn't that the politicians' job?
I don't complain about something if I don't have some kind of outline of a proposal to deal with it.

I want unicorns with rainbows coming out of their derriers too.  I don't expect politicians to figure out how.

Provide something tangible and concrete in terms of proposals or to me, it's just whining and virtue signaling, and socializing.

 

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