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847badgerfan

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3094 on: June 09, 2020, 12:09:58 PM »
Good post GR.

Sounds like the police board up there needs to be more like the engineering board. The one in Illinois is tough as nails on bad practice.

Of course, police are union members. Maybe that needs to change too, as part of the reforms. 

Engineers are non-union professionals => very tough disciplinary standards

Police personnel are union members =>   <<<crickets>>>
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3095 on: June 09, 2020, 12:20:20 PM »
I'm musing about the probability that I would take my guns out in an unsettled time to confront police who may be attacking my fellow citizens unfairly.

Frankly, that sounds like an idiotic proposition almost certain to end badly, for me.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3096 on: June 09, 2020, 12:32:22 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 09, 2020, 12:09:58 PM
Good post GR.

Sounds like the police board up there needs to be more like the engineering board. The one in Illinois is tough as nails on bad practice.

Of course, police are union members. Maybe that needs to change too, as part of the reforms.

Engineers are non-union professionals => very tough disciplinary standards

Police personnel are union members =>  <<<crickets>>>
Not all unions are created equal.

Us engineers have our own union, but that didn't help one that I know when he forgot to renew his license. On top of having to pay a four-figure fine for practicing without a valid license, since our PDs require a valid license for that pay grade, he had to go on an unpaid leave of absence for the duration of his suspension. That is why I was very careful on how I phrased things between June 2018 and this past January.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3097 on: June 09, 2020, 12:36:33 PM »
Engineers are union up there?

That's... not good.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3098 on: June 09, 2020, 01:03:19 PM »
I was brainwashed when I stepped onto the UNL campus as a freshman

changed me from a solid Buckeye fan to a Cornhusker!
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3099 on: June 09, 2020, 01:03:51 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 09, 2020, 10:38:56 AM
An off-duty Chicago police officer was shot once in the leg early Tuesday as he walked to his vehicle on the South Side, according to authorities.

About 3:20 a.m. the officer, who was not named and who is assigned to the Wentworth District, was “preparing to enter his vehicle,” in the 3900 block of S. Artesian Avenue, according to a preliminary statement on the shooting sent by the Department. He was then approached by two men he didn’t know and one of them pulled a handgun and shot at the officer, officials said.

The officer was shot once in the leg and he drew his own weapon and returned fire, police said. It was unclear how many shots the officer fired and it was not known if anyone was hit by a bullet fired from his gun, officials said.

The officer was taken to an area hospital where he was listed in fair condition.

No arrests have been made and the shooting remains under investigation. The officer will be placed on administrative duties for 30 days.

kdouglas@chicagotribune.com



There's something odd about the construction of that story. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3100 on: June 09, 2020, 01:06:24 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 09, 2020, 08:25:16 AM
I'd like to see a list of what they've done to fight violence. Because from what I've seen, up close, is nothing. Jesse's son may have thought about trying to help - from his jail cell. The only thing he was thinking of when he held office was himself.

Giving people free shit and food stamps has not helped anyone long term, yet their elected leaders keep doing the same things. Insanity, ya know?

Giving people a good education and good jobs would help most. But...
I mean, I just read he said things about it and I think bought an apartment in Chicago as part of a gesture or something. Anyway, I said they're all charlatans, not particularly good for their eras and just bygone characters at this point. 

Alas, it turns out getting folks either good education or good jobs is a good bit trickier than one would hope. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3101 on: June 09, 2020, 01:07:05 PM »
" It was unclear how many shots the officer fired and it was not known if anyone was hit by a bullet fired from his gun, officials said."

The reporter should have written "It was not reported how many shots were fired, details are pending."

It's clearly KNOWN how many were fired.  I presume the officer was in uniform, and off duty?  That could be more clear also.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3102 on: June 09, 2020, 01:08:28 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 09, 2020, 01:39:08 AM
Is "Al" the Rev. Sharpton?  Has he tried to stop violence at any point?  Last time I paid attention to him, he was siccing his mob on the Jews of Crown Heights.  And then before that was the Tawana Brawley hoax.

I know I'm just hitting on his high (or is it low?) points, but, seriously, has he done any good works?  I know he's been fined several times for not paying his taxes.
Haven't the foggiest. I thought he was a caricature. (That Crown Heights thing is a mess. You're thinking of the one in the 1991)
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3103 on: June 09, 2020, 01:09:11 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 09, 2020, 01:03:51 PM
There's something odd about the construction of that story.
Yes- sounds odd. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3104 on: June 09, 2020, 01:10:35 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 09, 2020, 01:03:51 PM
There's something odd about the construction of that story.
Not in a Plaxico Burress kind of way, are you saying?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3105 on: June 09, 2020, 01:12:26 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on June 09, 2020, 08:55:59 AM
The inverse of what you wrote in parentheses is also true though. The mistrust of police usually comes from those people who seem most interested in trusting the government. I guess that could be viewed as just as odd. Idk.

Which is the distraction? Does bringing up black on black crime distract from the racist cops problem or is it vice versa?

It's perhaps a casualty of the lack of bipartisanism in modern society. Or it's a general issue with the innate hypocrisy of the structural two-sided nature of our or maybe any political system. 

I think in a lot of cases, black on black crime gets thrown out when something else is being discussed because it's a good base for "what about that?" Like it's super, super terrible, but it's also not something that can be held to account in the same way. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3106 on: June 09, 2020, 01:13:17 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 09, 2020, 01:10:35 PM
Not in a Plaxico Burress kind of way, are you saying?
No. In a cops feed press sort of way. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3107 on: June 09, 2020, 01:14:26 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 09, 2020, 01:03:51 PM
There's something odd about the construction of that story.
this is not surprising

unfortunately, this seems to be the new normal for reporters and/or story writers
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