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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2982 on: June 08, 2020, 01:35:57 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 08, 2020, 01:35:01 PM
well thats good enough for me

OAM you are white

glad we got that out of the way
Don't be a dipshit.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2983 on: June 08, 2020, 01:38:47 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 11:35:13 AM
He'd be writing about the rioting (as you would have him do) and his editors would be wanting him to include the peaceful protests.  Simple.
Do you always have to attribute bad faith to anyone who disagrees with you?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2984 on: June 08, 2020, 01:38:55 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 08, 2020, 01:35:16 PM
From The Dispatch:
  • Nine members of Minneapolis’s City Council—a veto-proof majority—announced their intention to “disband” the city’s police department, vowing to replace it with a “new model of public safety.” Details of the proposal remain fuzzy, however. “The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” City Council President Lisa Bender said.
  • On Friday, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said the organization was “wrong in not listening to players” like Colin Kaepernick who protested racism and police brutality. Goodell’s apology was posted a day after the release of a different video in which a number of prominent black football players called on the NFL to take a stronger stance against racism.
  • At least a dozen Texas county GOP chairs have shared bigoted conspiracies about the death of George Floyd and the protests that have followed, including claims that Floyd’s death was staged to hurt Donald Trump’s re-election prospects, according to a report in the Texas Tribune. Gov. Greg Abbott and some other state Republican leaders have denounced the claims.
  • A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll sheds some light on the national mood: Eight out of 10 American voters believe that “things are out of control in the nation.” Meanwhile, 59 percent are more concerned about police brutality and George Floyd’s death than they are about protests becoming violent, compared with 27 percent who say the opposite.


CW I can site you polls with overwhelming support for the police

I am real curious to see what happens going forward in Minn
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2985 on: June 08, 2020, 01:40:14 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:35:57 PM
Don't be a dipshit. 
sorry OAM thats just in my blood burnt orange as it may be
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2986 on: June 08, 2020, 01:41:17 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 08, 2020, 01:38:47 PM
Do you always have to attribute bad faith to anyone who disagrees with you?
I was explaining something he didn't understand.  

Sigh.
If I seemingly always attribute bad faith to those I disagree with, then how do I find the time to be arrogant and dismiss them as incompetent?!?  

Which is it????
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2987 on: June 08, 2020, 01:42:58 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 11:45:34 AM
Everyone thinks their beliefs are right....which is why they hold them. 

I've said this many times, but no one seems to get it - most of you have a problem with me on this precise point.  And it's honestly about me not prefacing my posts with "I think..." or "I believe...", which I avoid because they're redundant.  You know it's what I think, because I'm the one typing it and posting it.

It's not that I'm more certain of something compared to you, it's because I avoid using redundant, feaux-humble beginnings to my posts. 

You're as invested in your opinions as I am in mine.  That's not the issue here (I say again).
Saying "I think" or "in my opinion" is a social convention.  Like good manners are.  Like saying "please" and "thank you."  When you refuse to demonstrate good manners because it takes too much time and energy, your readers may have a tendency to read you other than how you intend to be read.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2988 on: June 08, 2020, 01:43:39 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:41:17 PM
I was explaining something he didn't understand. 

Sigh.
If I seemingly always attribute bad faith to those I disagree with, then how do I find the time to be arrogant and dismiss them as incompetent?!? 

Which is it????
Two sides of the same coin, I think.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2989 on: June 08, 2020, 01:50:02 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 08, 2020, 12:44:23 PM
An example of deflection would be what happened when NFL players were kneeling during the anthem. Players were demonstrating against a culture of police brutality where there are no consequences for the offenders, and everyone said "why are they against the troops cops?!"

The protests had some violent looting, especially at the beginning. I believe almost everywhere, that this has calmed down. I know the protests I saw on TV in LA around mid-week had no violence--it's about trying to actually get results this time.

But when the response to everything, especially those things trying to address the root cause of the problem, go to "but what about the rioting and looters?" I call it a deflection.

It's a bad situation, and you can't defend the rioting and looting. You can't defend the violence against business owners and cops. Those are horrible things.

But it doesn't change the fact that we're here because of a culture of police brutality and this powder keg was touched off by an egregious murder of a black man by Minnesota cops
Other than the one fix, right on the money.  Tulsa had two nights of violence--mostly by white punks whom the protesters were begging to leave--but that was it.  We've had more than a week of peaceful protests since.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2990 on: June 08, 2020, 01:52:33 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 08, 2020, 01:42:58 PM
When you refuse to demonstrate good manners because it takes too much time and energy, your readers may have a tendency to read you other than how you intend to be read.
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.  
I guess I'm on the other side of the coin now, huh?  


I'm going to paraphrase your post:  Being direct and omitting the niceties or fluff may make your reader misunderstand your content.


WHAT THE WHAT?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2991 on: June 08, 2020, 01:53:51 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 08, 2020, 01:50:02 PM
Other than the one fix, right on the money.  Tulsa had two nights of violence--mostly by white punks whom the protesters were begging to leave--but that was it.  We've had more than a week of peaceful protests since.
I hope we find out who those white guys dressed all in black were - and what % were antifa and what % were far righties.  
Both extremist ends of the spectrum can go to hell.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2992 on: June 08, 2020, 01:55:34 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
I hope we find out who those white guys dressed all in black were - and what % were antifa and what % were far righties. 
Both extremist ends of the spectrum can go to hell.
white or black we need to prosecute if they committed violence
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2993 on: June 08, 2020, 01:59:17 PM »
As noted, I believe, and it's just my opinion, that ALL OF US have opinions about which we are not certain.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2994 on: June 08, 2020, 02:10:40 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:53:51 PM

Both extremist ends of the spectrum can go to hell.
I agree. We are letting 1% of our population tear the country apart.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2995 on: June 08, 2020, 02:30:10 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 08, 2020, 02:10:40 PM
I agree. We are letting 1% of our population tear the country apart.
well maybe if the Media didnt scream this shit all day we might feel differently
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