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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2968 on: June 08, 2020, 01:19:18 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 08, 2020, 01:15:54 PM
and Im guessing you are

oh wait a minute you told us that up front
Nope, white as.....a white person.
I just possess empathy.  Try it sometime.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2969 on: June 08, 2020, 01:20:25 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2970 on: June 08, 2020, 01:21:19 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:19:18 PM
I just possess empathy.  Try it sometime.
I just can't relate to that.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2971 on: June 08, 2020, 01:21:51 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 08, 2020, 01:06:29 PM
The police department here is more black than the city is.  Are they racist?  Or is this something else?
I don't think anyone here has suggested it's solely racism.  There is a real, ingrained issue with policing in our country.  I find it probable that black officers see black citizens in a similar light as white officers do.  

And while I haven't researched it, I still figure black officers KILL UNARMED black citizens at a far lower rate.  What do you think?  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2972 on: June 08, 2020, 01:23:52 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 08, 2020, 01:20:25 PM
This is interesting.

https://www.oann.com/statistics-reveal-police-shoot-and-kill-twice-as-many-white-suspects-as-african-american-suspects/


I wonder if it's true.
This is bordering on racist. 
If there's 4x as many white people as black, then promoting whites are killed by police twice as often isn't making your point.
Also, I don't see the word "unarmed" anywhere here.  Why is that being ignored? 

I'm going to assume you didn't consider those things and give you the benefit of the doubt.  You know, like how an officer would if you were committing a crime.

badge847, I have too much respect for you to believe you linked anything from that site on purpose.  You're better than that.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2973 on: June 08, 2020, 01:26:02 PM »
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/05/larry-elder/larry-elder-mislabels-statistics-fatal-shootings-p/

There aren't enough unarmed citizens shot and killed by police each year to have much of a statistical basis for any subgroup analysis.

If you broaden to including deaths caused by other than shooting, we don't have data apparently.

According to the Washington Post data through June 3, police in the line of duty fatally shot 10 unarmed black people and 20 unarmed white people in 2019. (The data is updated as new facts emerge, and by June 5 the numbers jumped to 15 unarmed blacks and 25 unarmed whites.)
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2974 on: June 08, 2020, 01:28:19 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:19:18 PM
Nope, white as.....a white person.
I just possess empathy.  Try it sometime.
sorry OAM but I dont believe you

not that theres anything wrong with being black

I have post that disclaimer or folks would think Im a racist
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2975 on: June 08, 2020, 01:31:25 PM »
I just wonder if the numbers were true. 50% white, 25% black, 25% Hispanic (20% of the population).

I'm aware of the US demographics. I was just surprised by the numbers given. I would not have guessed that, for reasons noted elsewhere in this thread.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2976 on: June 08, 2020, 01:32:07 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 08, 2020, 01:26:02 PM
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/05/larry-elder/larry-elder-mislabels-statistics-fatal-shootings-p/

There aren't enough unarmed citizens shot and killed by police each year to have much of a statistical basis for any subgroup analysis.

If you broaden to including deaths caused by other than shooting, we don't have data apparently.

According to the Washington Post data through June 3, police in the line of duty fatally shot 10 unarmed black people and 20 unarmed white people in 2019. (The data is updated as new facts emerge, and by June 5 the numbers jumped to 15 unarmed blacks and 25 unarmed whites.)
what is not said is how many officiers were being attacked when the shooting occurred 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2977 on: June 08, 2020, 01:32:49 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 08, 2020, 01:28:19 PM
sorry OAM but I dont believe you

not that theres anything wrong with being black

I have post that disclaimer or folks would think Im a racist
You don't believe I'm the race that I am?  
Funnnnnn.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2978 on: June 08, 2020, 01:33:37 PM »
OAM explained many years ago that he is white and the reason for his moniker here.  I believe him entirely.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2979 on: June 08, 2020, 01:33:57 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:32:49 PM
You don't believe I'm the race that I am? 
Funnnnnn.
nope I believe youre black
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2980 on: June 08, 2020, 01:35:01 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 08, 2020, 01:33:37 PM
OAM explained many years ago that he is white and the reason for his moniker here.  I believe him entirely.
well thats good enough for me

OAM you are white

glad we got that out of the way
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2981 on: June 08, 2020, 01:35:16 PM »
From The Dispatch:
  • Nine members of Minneapolis’s City Council—a veto-proof majority—announced their intention to “disband” the city’s police department, vowing to replace it with a “new model of public safety.” Details of the proposal remain fuzzy, however. “The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” City Council President Lisa Bender said.
  • On Friday, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said the organization was “wrong in not listening to players” like Colin Kaepernick who protested racism and police brutality. Goodell’s apology was posted a day after the release of a different video in which a number of prominent black football players called on the NFL to take a stronger stance against racism.
  • At least a dozen Texas county GOP chairs have shared bigoted conspiracies about the death of George Floyd and the protests that have followed, including claims that Floyd’s death was staged to hurt Donald Trump’s re-election prospects, according to a report in the Texas Tribune. Gov. Greg Abbott and some other state Republican leaders have denounced the claims.
  • A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll sheds some light on the national mood: Eight out of 10 American voters believe that “things are out of control in the nation.” Meanwhile, 59 percent are more concerned about police brutality and George Floyd’s death than they are about protests becoming violent, compared with 27 percent who say the opposite.

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