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Topic: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #182 on: April 05, 2020, 01:52:42 PM »
I'm a tad surprised that USCe would be this low actually, maybe because they play us pretty tough each year usually.  That program "should" be able to average something like 7-5 or 8-4 with all the talent around even if they can't compete with Clemson for now.  Coaching might be important.


South Carolina has a roster anywhere in the range of Top 15-25 talent wise. Falling FIFTY spots outside that window goes to show how neglected their offense is. This was something we all knew about Muschamp HCed teams going into his hiring in Columbia. This is where I wonder if an AD can give themselves the power to override and dictate Coordinator hires. We see Orgeron had the sense to trust the LSU offense to more capable minds, a sense Muschamp clearly lacks.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #183 on: April 05, 2020, 01:58:23 PM »
I think Illinois has a great shot to start 4-0, and it's not completely unreasonable to see them sitting at 7-0 coming into Camp Randall. The non-conference is cake, and is followed by a trip to Rutgers. Then they have a road game at Nebraska, followed by home games against Purdue and Minnesota.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #184 on: April 05, 2020, 02:41:59 PM »
I thought that about Missouri last year for the same reasons.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #185 on: April 05, 2020, 08:21:05 PM »
I had that with South Carolina two years ago.  Thought they'd upset Georgia at home, and get to 9-0.  Swing and a miss

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #186 on: April 06, 2020, 07:19:21 AM »
South Carolina is a weird team I think, and Muschamp is not the coach they need, I think that is apparent today.  I doubt he makes it to 2021.  I was befuddled as to why they hired him, but they did upset UGA last season (which may have spared UGA from a somewhat embarrassing playoff result).

I wonder if it is better to be 12-2 and win your bowl game or 12-2 and get blown out in a playoff first round event.


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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #187 on: April 06, 2020, 01:04:57 PM »
remember when Muschamp was "head coach in waiting" at UT-Austin?  Hah!
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #188 on: April 06, 2020, 01:59:24 PM »

#71 Northwestern Wildcats
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Northwestern kept pushing just how far they could go with as inept an offense as they had year in and year out, and it finally bit them.  In fairness, they reached the Big Ten title game the year prior with the #94 SP+ offense, relying solely on the #30 defense.  Their defense actually improved in 2019, up to #27, but their offense fell off a cliff to #123, which resulted in a flip from 8-1 in conference play, to 1-8.  It was the worst season in Evanston since they went winless in Big Ten play in Gary Barnett’s final season, in 1998.  That was finally the impetus for Pat Fitzgerald to move on from Mick McCall, who had been his offensive coordinator since 2008, and bring in Mike Bajakian from Boston College.  It was time for a fresh start, but this hire is not exactly inspiring.  Bajakian was Butch Jones’ offensive coordinator across three different schools (Central Michigan, Cincinnati, Tennessee) from 2007-2014.  He then spent four years in the NFL as quarterbacks coach with the Buccaneers “grooming” top pick Jameis Winston.  Yikes.  But Boston College’s offense, particularly the passing game, saw significant improvement in his one year there.  That’s what impact Fitzgerald has to hope he has on his quarterbacks, who were absolutely awful last year, averaging an FBS worst 4.5 ypa.  The Wildcats were getting T.J. Green back, following a season ending injury in 2018, and more importantly, adding Clemson transfer Hunter Johnson, a former 5 star recruit.  Green got hurt again, Johnson was horrible, and third stringer, Aidan Smith, who hadn’t attempted a pass through his first three seasons, ended the year as the starter, and best option.  All three are back in 2020, but the Johnson disaster did not scare Fitzgerald away from hitting the transfer portal again.  This time adding Peyton Ramsey as a grad transfer from Indiana.  Ramsey was second in the Big Ten in completion percentage last year, fourth in QBR.  If the quarterback play is merely decent this year, instead of worst in the FBS, the offense could actually be ok.  True freshman Drake Anderson, didn’t exactly call back the dynamic offenses his father played for in Evanston at the turn of the millennium, but considering the loaded boxes he was facing, he stayed healthy, and was moderately effective.  They may have stumbled into something late with Evan Hull, who only played in four games, but averaged over 6 ypc; and they have to hope Isaiah Bowser regains his form.  He was arguably the second best tailback over the second half of 2018, but never got on track in 2019.  While the offensive line was the main problem in 2018, it was actually decent last year, and now returns four starters, including All-Big Ten tackle Rashawn Slater.  They could be one of the five best units in the conference.  If the offense is just like #80 or so in SP+, the team could be a major bounce back candidate, because the defense appears to be absolutely loaded, particularly in the back seven.  They return 8 starters from a top 30 defense a year ago, led by linebacker Paddy Fisher, who could be preseason Big Ten defensive player of the year.  The Wildcats’ have the #17 projected SP+ defense for this year.


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RBDrake Anderson, Sophomore
WRRiley Lees, Senior
WRRashawn Slater, Senior
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LBBlake Gallagher, Senior
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #189 on: April 06, 2020, 02:38:38 PM »
South Carolina is a weird team I think, and Muschamp is not the coach they need, I think that is apparent today.  I doubt he makes it to 2021.  I was befuddled as to why they hired him, but they did upset UGA last season (which may have spared UGA from a somewhat embarrassing playoff result).

I wonder if it is better to be 12-2 and win your bowl game or 12-2 and get blown out in a playoff first round event.
I've wondered that too.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #190 on: April 06, 2020, 03:35:18 PM »
The state of Illinois was holding on pretty strong up until the last two postings. Now they are entirely eliminated. 
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #191 on: April 07, 2020, 02:59:01 PM »

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Zach Wilson took control of the starting quarterback job as a freshman, and never (willingly) gave up the job.  The problem was that he missed three games with an injury, and Baylor Ramsey and Jaren Hall came in and were arguably better.  They each had a higher completion percentage, and passing efficiency, while not suffering the interception issues that Wilson did.  It would have been an interesting spring battle, but now you do wonder if Kalani Sitake, who is firmly on the hot seat after a 27-25 start to his career after four seasons, is willing to now let a quarterback competition extend into fall practice.  He already has a lower winning percentage through four years than Gary Crowton did in between LaVell Edwards and Bronco Mendenhall, and Crowton didn’t get a fifth season.  Assuming it is still Wilson, he’ll be aided by what could be a really good running game.  Things started to really round into form late in the season, averaging 5.9 ypc over the final quarter of the season, sixth best in the FBS.  Nine different Cougars got at least 23 carries last year, so it truly was a running back by committee approach, but for some reason, the most effective, freshman Sione Finau only got 59 carries, despite averaging 6.1 ypc.  He also missed four games with injuries, but a first full season in a college weight program could see him be even better.  They add grad transfer Devonta’e Henry-Cole from rival Utah, who had an up and down career, that saw him averaged 5.25 ypc over two seasons with the Utes, but only got 89 carries, and those two seasons straddled an entire lost 2018 season due to a wrist injury.  He’s probably the most talented back on the roster though, and maybe now gets a consistent opportunity.  Considering how divided out the carries were last year, mixed with the mess at receiver, both should get 100+ carries this year.  And that mess at receiver is a big one, with BYU’s top three wideouts all graduating.  They did catch a break in tight end Matt Bushman, who would have been drafted, electing to return for his senior year.  He actually led the team last year in both receiving yards and receiving touchdowns.  Last year was a reboot year on defense, that was expected.  So falling from #18 to #63 in ypp allowed is not necessarily the issue.  It as that they failed to establish the guys going forward to actually make it a rebuilding year.  So the defense enters 2019 really no better off than they were last year.  Aside from linebacker Isaiah Kaufusi, you could tell me just about any projected starter was not actually still starting by the end of the year, and I wouldn’t find it necessarily surprising.  They do have a deep rotation at linebacker, one that can withstand injury, so maybe through mixing and matching around Kaufusi they find a really good group, with eight of nine players from last year’s three deep return.  BYU always made their mark on that side of the ball by being nasty in the trenches, and the 2019 Cougars simply were not that, with just 4.31% sack rate, bottom 20 in the FBS.  And it was just 2.0% on standard downs, fifth worst.  They weren’t good against the run either, sacrificing 2.73 line yards per play, in the bottom 25.  That’s simply not the BYU mentality I’m familiar with.


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TEMatt BUshman, Senior
CJames Empey, Junior
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #192 on: April 07, 2020, 03:03:00 PM »
I've wondered that too.
Depends on the program.  Helmet schools, probably the bowl win, give yourself some momentum into next year, and inflated ranking to help you, and you'll probably have another great season shortly.

For other schools, where everything has to line up perfectly to even be in position, probably the CFP blowout loss.  With MSU's the caveat is that we had just won the Rose and Cotton Bowls the previous two years.  And no matter what I'd take a CFP blowout over a Cotton Bowl win.  But if it had been 25 years since MSU had been in the Rose Bowl, I don't think I'd trade that for a CFP loss.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #193 on: April 07, 2020, 04:02:38 PM »
I'm all holed up in southern Utah, and the school here, Dixie State, is moving up to D1 this year. They will be an FCS independent for FB, and in the WAC for everything else. There is another FCS team 50 miles up the road, SUU, who is in the Big Sky. The nearest FBS team is UNLV at 120 miles away. The Utes are the closest P5, I believe, at over 300 miles away. BYU is a little bit closer than the Utes.  
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #194 on: April 07, 2020, 09:47:35 PM »
Anyway, Utah is now down to their last team. And Cincydawg predicts that they will be posted next. 
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #195 on: April 08, 2020, 10:44:37 AM »

#69 Georgia Southern Eagles
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There is no excuse for Georgia Southern to suffer through a repeat of a 2019 season that saw them inexplicably unable to run the ball.  They are a triple option team returned a full backfield from a team that ranked 14th in the nation in yards per carry in 2018, and yet averaged under 5 yards per carry in 2019, 5th in the Sun Belt.  That’s not, by itself, the worst, but when you want to run the ball like the Eagles do, which 78.02% of the time, more than any non-service academy FBS school, that’s unsustainable.  They’ve got all of the key pieces back, in senior quarterback Shai Werts, and a pair of All-Sun Belt running backs.  Werts should, assuming he stays healthy, pass 3,000 rushing yards in his career this season.  And he’s a better passer than he’s allowed to be, completing over 55% of his passes for his career, with 26 touchdowns, to just six interceptions.  The issue in 2019 was not the guys carrying the ball, it was with the guys blocking for them.  The Eagles ranked in the low 20s or high 30s in every one of Football Outsiders’ run blocking metrics in 2018, and dropped off into the 90s across the board last year.  With four upperclassman starters returning in 2020, they should allow that talented backfield to flourish, and get back into the top 15 nationally in rushing.  That said, Werts does need to play better.  While the offense did regress overall, to #101 in SP+, and a large portion of that falls on the line, Werts was not the player he was as a sophomore.  His completion percentage dropped by 7%, his yards per attempt by 2.2 yards, his passer rating by 32 points, and even rushing, his yards per attempt by 0.7 yards, with 11 fewer overall touchdowns.  All in all it was a 36 point drop in QBR, resulting in falling from the #2 quarterback in the Sun Belt as a sophomore in 2018, to #8 last year, as a junior.  The defense was a mixed bag, with an outstanding run defense, but an inability to stop the pass, specifically the big pass play.  The Eagles allowed just 3.8 ypc, narrowly behind Appalachian State for best mark in the conference.  But the pass defense, despite holding opponents to just under 60% completions, surrendered over 13 yards per completion, 2nd worst in the Sun Belt.  There’s no reason to expect that to change this year, as the front seven still looks stacked, and the secondary, particularly at cornerback, still appears to be a mess.  If there’s one area that front could help at, it’s generating more pressure, as they only ranked #71 in sack rate.  Their best returning players are also their best pass rushers, so there is hope that they can alleviate some of the burden on their cornerbacks.  The Eagles have beaten their rival, Appalachian State, in each of the past two years (the Mountaineers going 16-0 in Sun Belt play otherwise), but they’ve been unable to avoid other hiccups, preventing them from playing for the conference title.  They get Appalachian State at home this year (seeking their second ever three game winning streak in the rivalry that dates back to 1932, and has been played every year, plus playoff meetings, since 1993), Troy is still down, and Arkansas State rotates off their schedule.  This might be as good a shot as they are going to have.


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QBShai Werts, Senior
RBWesley Kennedy III, Senior
RBJ.D. King, Senior
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DERaymond Johnson III, Senior
LBRashad Byrd, Senior
SKenderick Duncan Jr., Junior


 

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