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2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« on: February 14, 2020, 11:51:42 AM »
Starts tomorrow, get ready to strongly disagree!

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 11:56:13 AM »
I look forward to this every year!

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 12:19:05 PM »
I'm ready!
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 12:22:53 PM »
I look forward to this every year!
I don't

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 01:29:42 PM »
There will probably be at least three or four teams that will be worse than the Wolverines.
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2020, 02:28:42 PM »
Starts tomorrow, get ready to strongly disagree!
You putting Sparty behind UTSA,Old Dominion,Akron & UMASS?
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2020, 02:29:47 PM »
There will probably be at least three or four teams that will be worse than the Wolverines.
Oh will you never let it go......good job
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 06:23:58 PM »
You putting Sparty behind UTSA,Old Dominion,Akron & UMASS?


I’m predicting MSU is 12th in preseason Big Ten. Ahead of only Rutgers and either Illinois or Maryland. Dantonio left such an unflushed toilet of a program.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 06:56:52 PM »
Michigan St will crack the top 100. There will be no more than three P5 teams that don't. There will be like 9 SEC teams in the top 20, including three of the top five. 

Those are my wild stabs 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 06:59:30 PM »

I’m predicting MSU is 12th in preseason Big Ten. Ahead of only Rutgers and either Illinois or Maryland. Dantonio left such an unflushed toilet of a program.
Ya but some othes things conspired, good players either not making grades,being dismissed for getting in trouble and an inordinate amount of injuries too.But being blindly loyal to underachieving coaches certainly greased the skids.Ultimately he lifted the program up to great things and also watched it crash back down
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2020, 07:30:35 PM »
Ya but some othes things conspired, good players either not making grades,being dismissed for getting in trouble and an inordinate amount of injuries too.But being blindly loyal to underachieving coaches certainly greased the skids.Ultimately he lifted the program up to great things and also watched it crash back down
2019 7 6
2018 7 6
2017 10 3
2016 3 9
2015 12 2
2014 11 2
2013 13 1
2012 7 6
2011 11 3
2010 11 2
2009 6 7
2008 9 4
2007 7 6

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Dantonio got past 2016 - things aren't too awful bad
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2020, 05:11:32 PM »

#130 UTEP Miners
#14 in Conference USA
I truly can’t believe we are here again, but yes.  After discussing last year the unprecedented second consecutive appearance at the bottom of the list for the Miners, here we are for a third consecutive time.  That’s typically because the worst teams tend to hedge young, and are replaced at the bottom by some school, usually with an extremely hot seat coach, who didn’t go young, tried to get to a bowl, and went 3-9, and still have major turnover in their starting lineup.  However, for the second consecutive year, UTEP played to win now...and still didn’t.  The picks thus far haven’t been far off, with the Miners going 2-22 over that span, including just 1 win over an FBS opponent over their past three seasons.  Dana Dimel rotated between two quarterbacks last year, both of them seniors, both of them now gone.  And that’s just the start of the issues for a team that returns less production, per Bill Connolly’s metric, than any school in the FBS except for Utah.  And Utah was a game away from the Playoff.  If the backups in El Paso were any good, I don’t think they’d be backups.  The offense should be an absolute mess, but there is some reason for hope on the defensive side of the ball, starting with the cornerback pair.  Josh Caldwell was tied for third in the conference in passes defended, but was one of only three players to rank in the top 20 in that stat, without recording an interception.  Across from him is Duron Lowe, who is probably the best athlete on the team.  Lowe, who arrived at UTEP via the JUCO route last year, is a former Kansas high school state champion in both the 100 meter and the long jump.  That has translated to his return abilities, taking over kick return duties midway through the season, and tallying a 100 yard kick return touchdown against North Texas.  With a full FBS offseason under his belt, if he can hone some of the technique issues, he has the physical abilities to be a factor.  They will be aided if Praise Amaewhule becomes a more consistent threat off the edge.  The redshirt freshman tied for the team lead in sacks, tackles for loss, and quarterback hurries.  That said, he only had 3 sacks, for a UTEP defense that forced just 12 on the season.  He wasn’t just Academic All-Conference, but was also a Conference USA Commissioners Academic medal winner.  He’s a smart kid, with the capacity for massive growth.  So while I say it’s a relative strength, that is considering a team that ranked #129 in SP+ defense last year and lost 6 starters, but does have two guys with breakout potential.  The offensive situation is particularly bleak.  Sophomore Gavin Hardison is the presumptive leader at quarterback going into spring, after seeing some action in the final two games last year, although was very unimpressive.  They were ripe for a transfer, perhaps TCU transfer Justin Rogers, but they didn’t land one.  As far as the running game goes, Joshua Fields, with 312 yards on a team-best 5.3 yards per carry is the only returnee from their top four rushers.  Although while the line struggled to pass block, they were actually middle of the FBS pack in interior run blocking, led by the returning Bobby DeHaro at guard.  The other two starting interior linemen have graduated though.

KEY PLAYERS
WRJustin Garrett, Senior
GBobby DeHaro, Junior
KGavin Baechle, Junior
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DEPraise Amaewhule, Sophomore
CBDuron Lowe, Senior
CBJosh Caldwell, Senior



#129 North Texas Mean Green
#13 in Conference USA
Whoops.  The Mean Green had gone 12-4 in Conference USA play with a conference title game appearance in the past two years, and their first run of three consecutive bowl games since 2001-2004.  They brought back senior quarterback Mason Fine, who was the school’s all time leading passer before the end of his JUNIOR season.  They were the preseason conference favorites, and had more players selected to the preseason all-conference team.  And they went just 4-8.  The bright side is that head coach Seth Littrell went from possibly the next hot coaching name, to back to Denton for a fourth season.  Now, for the first time in his coaching career, he has to figure out how to do it without Mason Fine.  Whoever the next quarterback is, should have plenty of weapons to work with, with all-conference players returning at running back, tight end, and a pair at receiver.  But, this was an offense that fell to #85 in SP+, even with all those guys, and Fine, who, for lack of a better word, was fine.  The offensive line was absolutely abysmal, ranking outside the top 100 in nearly every metric, even with four senior starters.  So good luck with 4 new dudes, that couldn’t even beat out those players, now blocking for a guy who won’t be the best quarterback in school history.  It might be Jason Bean, who saw action in 7 games last year, but 3 interceptions in just 35 pass attempts, small sample size caveat, is a little concerning.  The defense should continue to be decent in the front seven, but the secondary looks to be a concern.  The defense as a whole last year was probably better than the old stats, which just showed 32.5 ppg allowed, third worst in Conference USA.  But, they were 6th, solidly middle of the pack, in yards per play allowed.  They just simply couldn’t get off the field, forcing the fewest interceptions, allowing the third most first downs per game, with the fourth worst 3rd down defense, and the conference’s worst red zone defense, which didn’t force a single red zone turnover all season.  Littrell is not sitting around and taking it, bringing in 5 new assistant coaches, which included replacing both coordinators.  New offensive coordinator is former Tulsa offensive line coach Mike Bloesch, a guy whose only coordinating experience was from 2011-13...at Temple HIGH SCHOOL, and whose offensive line last year at Tulsa, was one of the ten worst in the FBS, so...ok?  The new defensive coordinator is just the old defensive coordinator, Clint Bowen, who was the Mean Green defensive coordinator for one year, in 2011, but has been at his alma mater Kansas ever since.  Les Miles demoted him from defensive coordinator to safeties coach upon his arrival, and his one previous year as North Texas’s defensive coordinator, the Mean Green were #103 in Defensive S&P+, so, again...ok?


KEY PLAYERS
RBTre Siggers, Junior
WRJaelon Darden, Senior
TEJason Pirtle, Senior
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DTDion Novil, Senior
LBTyreke Davis, Senior
LBK.D. Davis, Junior



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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2020, 05:59:58 PM »
Texas takes some early body blows...
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2020, 10:13:14 AM »

#128 New Mexico State Aggies
Independent
In 2017, Doug Martin took New Mexico State to their first bowl game since 1960, and following 2020, he’s probably going to get fired.  On one hand you could say that’s a sign of the times.  On the other hand, aside from that one year, where he went 7-6, he’s only gone 15-57 in Las Cruces, following a 29-53 run at Kent State, and has as bad a roster as anyone in the country this year.  Quarterback Josh Adkins had the worst Total QBR of any full time starting quarterback in the nation...and Martin couldn’t be happier to have him back, considering the complete exodus of talent around him.  Adkins isn’t just the starting quarterback, he’s also the leading returning rusher, edging out Naveon Mitchell, who had 7 carries for 29 yards on the season, following the graduation of Jason Huntley and Christian Gibson, and the transfers of Josh Foley, Dan Drew, and Matt Romero.  Whoever steps into that role, should get plenty of opportunities.  The Aggies changed their offensive gameplan in November, running for nearly 250 yards per game down the stretch.  Martin did say that the team went to more padded practices in November, and in an age when teams are trending the opposite way, that is notable.  The lack of creative run blocking schemes has been the biggest change in offensive line development, and that’s a direct result of not being able to run it in practice.  New Mexico State went the other way late, and it worked.  The issue is in addition to the running back exodus, they also lost three starting offensive linemen, including the two who Phil Steele put on his postseason honors list.  And it’s not like teams just went away from it arbitrarily, there were health concerns.  It’s one thing to do it for three weeks in November.  To do it for four months, and get your linemen to buy in?  We’ll see.  The receiver group isn’t in much better shape, with the departure of the top 4 targets from 2019.  And that’s from a passing offense that was #128 in yards per completion.  So, how is this team not #130?  Well, as bad as Adkins was, at least he’s an experienced starting quarterback, which is more than most teams ranked this low can say.  And I have some faith in their defense, particularly in a front seven, that loses middle linebacker Javahn Ferguson, the heart of the defense, but returns the two linebackers who flanked him, and probably have more upside.  Particularly Devin Richardson who finished third on the team in tackles, sacks and quarterback hurries as a freshman.  Xander Yarberough wasn’t technically a starter, but may have been their best pass rusher.  With the graduation of Cedric Wilcots, Yarberough moves from the 3rd down specialist, to an every down player.  Then you’ve got the turnovers.  The Aggies finished with the 2nd most turnovers in the nation, and the third worst turnover differential.  With just a little bit of reversion to the mean there, you might see a win or two that were losses in 2019.


KEY PLAYER
QBJosh Adkins, Junior
WRRobert Downs III, Senior
TJalen Guerrero, Senior
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DEXander Yarberough, Senior
LBRashie Hodge, Jr., Senior
LBDevin Richardson, Sophomore


 

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