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Topic: 2018 Season Stream of Completely Off-Topic Unconsciousness

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bayareabadger

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1260 on: August 29, 2018, 08:36:11 AM »
Mrs. 847 is driving a (new to her) 2015 GLK 350. I traded the 2013 for this one just a month ago. 8,200 miles on it and she loves it. 
Without meaning an ounce of disrespect, this is so antithetical to the way I was raised, thinking about doing it makes my skin crawl. (The trading and car newness, not your wife getting something nice).
Not that I’m right in any particular way, but it’s interesting the influence family weilds on our outlook. 

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1261 on: August 29, 2018, 08:43:37 AM »
BMWs today are largely living on reputation of being a "driver's machine" kind of thing.  They softened them up a lot in the last redesign to appeal to more people.  They lost the edge.  The redesigned 530i appears to have gone back to their roots.

HOWEVER, it is a rare driver who can both tell a difference and make that difference amount to anything on the street.  Most Bimmer owners drive them the same way Accord owners drive Accords.  

When I rode my bicycle a lot, I would pass other students going up hills easily because they were plodding along in the wrong dang gear.  I yell "down shift!" as I went by and they appeared to have no idea the bike had "gears" for some reason.  They had expensive bikes and no clue how to use them.

Cars are the same way.  A Honda Accord is a very nice car, plenty fast with the turbo, and handles well for a FWD car.  Don't pay $15 K extra for a Bimmer unless you know how to drive it and appreciate that aspect of it.  It likely doesn't accelerate any faster if you bought the 330i versus the Accord 2.0 T.  Both have the same size engines and the FWD drive train is more efficient.

I like to go out into the country on occasions or up in the mountains and push the car a bit, but not that much.  A deer could be around the next curve.  I'll save my fast driving for the track, which I have done twice in my life.

Why get a 460 hp Corvette when you can only really use 200 hp?  Heaven forbid you shell out for the ZR1 Corvette.

Some cars today are crazy.

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1262 on: August 29, 2018, 09:07:22 AM »
What's the knock on Bimmers?
I'd assert the biggest knock on a BMW, is the mindset of the person driving it. 
https://jalopnik.com/science-confirms-that-bmw-and-prius-drivers-are-the-wor-1120783177

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1263 on: August 29, 2018, 09:09:31 AM »
Without meaning an ounce of disrespect, this is so antithetical to the way I was raised, thinking about doing it makes my skin crawl. (The trading and car newness, not your wife getting something nice).
Not that I’m right in any particular way, but it’s interesting the influence family weilds on our outlook.
It was actually a decision based on practical considerations. She loves the car, and her 2013 had 65K miles on it, and no navigation or safety (lane ID, blind spot assist, backup camera, etc.) upgrades.

Since she loved it so much, and M-B no longer makes the model, it made sense to get her a newer one with very low miles and some upgrades. The practical part is it will likely be her last car, ever. The trade was actually the only car we didn't keep for at least 12 years (minus one lemon), since we've been together. I drove my Volvo for 17 years.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1264 on: August 29, 2018, 09:28:22 AM »
A huge amount of this stuff, like everything else, is imagery.  It reminds me of the wine business, which suggests that humans are susceptible to suggestion.

Let's hear a big DUH for that comment.

"Perception is reality, and reality isn't."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160310111857.htm


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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1265 on: August 29, 2018, 09:29:41 AM »
i used to laugh and laugh at back up cameras... my super duty came with one stock- and i instantly fell in love with it... it's primary function for me was backing under the trailer tongue and lining up the ball on the very first attempt.  the boat trailer tongue allows zero margin for error due to its weight.  so.. things like that are fantastic. 

a buddy of mine has a brand new VW GTR which he immediately had tuned and adjusted... it registers close to if not over 500hp iirc.  the thing is WICKED fast in a straight line.  he still has a golf that is also tuned and adjusted, but a couple years old.  it only registers a bit over 300hp.  he enjoys the golf more than the GTR- as the golf isn't equipped with such things as lane assist ect... the golf is a 'drivers' car, where the GTR is a lot faster in a straight line it has to be fought in corners... 

the interesting thing about this is: the guy knows how to drive.  he's been through several levels of HRPP driving and anti-terrorist driving courses.  his knowing how to make entry into a corner actually contradicts what the car 'senses' is proper and it tries to adjust, making the experience more than a bit hairy. 


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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1266 on: August 29, 2018, 09:37:46 AM »
The Golf R has AWD and a lot of "nannies" unless he turned them off.  It would be very fast in part due to AWD in a drag race.  In corners it should be very fast depending on his tires.  

I looked at a Golf R as it wasn't much more than a GTI in top trim, but the additional power and weight didn't do it for me.

I used to think power windows were silly.

I used to think a heated steering wheel was absurd until I had one.

The GTI will "self drive" on an Interstate for about 10 seconds and then it warns you to put your hands back on the wheel.  It is a bit eerie.

It is very tough to get under 3.0 seconds in the 0-60 acceleration test without AWD (or slicks).  The extra power doesn't get to the road.  In the CTS-V we did acceleration runs in a straight line, you stand on the brakes HARD and floor the throttle.  The RPMs come up to some value depending on ambient weather and then you release the brakes.  The car does the rest.  With the "nannies" turned off you sit and spin and make smoke out of very expensive Michelins.

We had about 30 or so cars on the track that day and they swap the tires and brake pads after each day.  The tires are pretty well shredded.  We also tried to drift the cars on a wet skid pad with the nannies turned off.


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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1267 on: August 29, 2018, 09:41:13 AM »
It was actually a decision based on practical considerations. She loves the car, and her 2013 had 65K miles on it, and no navigation or safety (lane ID, blind spot assist, backup camera, etc.) upgrades.

Since she loved it so much, and M-B no longer makes the model, it made sense to get her a newer one with very low miles and some upgrades. The practical part is it will likely be her last car, ever. The trade was actually the only car we didn't keep for at least 12 years (minus one lemon), since we've been together. I drove my Volvo for 17 years.
Fair enough. The old Volvo part resonates. My family bought to very used ones and got something like 18-19 years from one and 23 (and counting) from the other. Helps when you have a really trustworthy mechanic. 

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1268 on: August 29, 2018, 10:00:31 AM »
I used to think a heated steering wheel was absurd until I had one.

I don't think I'd care for a heated steering wheel. Nor heated seats. Not even if I still lived in the midwest. I generate enough body heat to take care of that...
What I do wish I had was the air conditioned / ventilated seats. That's where it's at. I've had that on a rental a few times, and I dig it...

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The GTI will "self drive" on an Interstate for about 10 seconds and then it warns you to put your hands back on the wheel.  It is a bit eerie.

I recently had a Subaru rental with the adaptive cruise control... I want that. 
It also had the lane assist, which was interesting to play with. 

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1269 on: August 29, 2018, 10:27:09 AM »
What's the knock on Bimmers?
I've tried over and over to like them. I don't think the price tag comes with the value I'd expect. Over the years I've gone to a dealership twice expecting to be wowed and leave with a car. Each time I ended the day driving an Infiniti. I thought Infiniti provided a much better car for a little smaller price tag. I've rented a 5 series sedan and X5 in the last two years on vacation and still wasn't wowed. Maybe it's just me, but I just don't get the appeal and expect the quality to be much higher. 
On the opposite end, I've always been blown away by MB. I think they make a fine vehicle. A buddy of mine has an S550 and the ride is amazingly comfortable. 
For a slightly cheaper price tag, I've found that Infiniti makes a quality product as well. Their customer service has blown me away over the years. A few years ago, they replaced my breaks for free out of warranty with 40k miles on the car. 

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1270 on: August 29, 2018, 10:47:03 AM »
In my younger days I would have pulled that nonsense. With tiny humans at home, there’s no reason to mess around. Although, I’ll say it’s way to easy to blink and accidentally be doing 90. The car feels the same at 90 as it does at 40. It’s so smooth.  Top end speed could be considered fast, but it’s way too heavy to be quick. Buddy of mine has an S4 with all kinds of nonsense and computer chips that bring it to 600 hp. It’s terrifyingly quick. I rode in it once and never again.
Lol I only did it once. It was a long time ago on a rural highway. But yeah you're right no reason for that ish. It is incredibly smooth. 120 feels like 60. The 2018 Turbo S Panamera Hybrid has 680hp and does 0-60 in 3 seconds. That's pretty quick I'd say.

Porsche makes the best cars in the world in my opinion. And the Panamera is my favorite. Especially love the new 2018 re-design.

If you ever get a chance to go to the Porsche center in Atlanta do it. Absolutely beautiful building with a museum with Porsche cars from every era, shops, restaurant, coffee shop, racing simulator, and an actual racing track on the back of the property. You can rent a 911 turbo and go out on the track with an instructor and they take you through all these drills and teach you how to race. Pretty cool.

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1271 on: August 29, 2018, 11:02:24 AM »
I'll never understand it either. The kid was just balls. Was there a mistake here and there? Sure. Just like any human.
I thought "balls" was a negative marker:
Hey Joe, I hear you're sick, how ya feeling?
"Just ... balls."
Well Timothy, I decided you get the promotion.
"That's tits!"
EDIT: I got lost and thought page 1 was the most recent page, so Badge might not even remember this comment
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1272 on: August 29, 2018, 11:07:32 AM »
HOWEVER, it is a rare driver who can both tell a difference and make that difference amount to anything on the street.  Most Bimmer owners drive them the same way Accord owners drive Accords.  


Why get a 460 hp Corvette when you can only really use 200 hp?  Heaven forbid you shell out for the ZR1 Corvette.

thanks for the feed back on Bimmers everyone.
I agree with most drivers can't and just don't make the difference between a high performance car and a Honda sedan.  Heck, I can usually gain on the driver ahead in a bimmer through a corner with my half ton 4-wheel drive truck, because I'm pushing the limit a bit and they are just cruising.
I do enjoy pushing a vehicle a bit now and then in a relatively safe situation.  I do enjoy acceleration, G force, and speed from time to time.  So, yes I would use all 460 hp in a Vette occasionally in short bursts.
the Z06 or the new ZR1?!?!?!  Hell no.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1273 on: August 29, 2018, 11:18:03 AM »
I don't care for all the bells and whistles on new vehicles.  Especially the new safety features regarding lane changing and all that.

the back up camera on my truck I thought was a waste until I hooked up my trailer.  It's awesome for trailers and I also use it if I want to park within a few inches of something at my rear bumper. 

Heated seats and steering wheel........... I don't turn them on even when the temps here in NW Iowa get to 15 below.  I told the dealer back in 2008 that I always wear my long britches when it's cold outside.

Dealer was explaining the turn by turn directions feature of the GM on-star system that was free for the first year.  I told him that if I wanted turn by turn directions, I would have stayed married.
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