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Topic: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1540 on: February 13, 2019, 06:01:30 PM »
Glad to see that Ttun fans don't confine their zebra condemnation to the gridiron.
To be fair, I haven't seen them blaming the refs, just some general complaints.  I perceive a general acknowledgement that when the first place team in the B1G loses to the last place team in the B1G it isn't just about officials.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1541 on: February 13, 2019, 06:11:19 PM »
To be fair, I haven't seen them blaming the refs, just some general complaints.  I perceive a general acknowledgement that when the first place team in the B1G loses to the last place team in the B1G it isn't just about officials.  
That said, I think there have been a few hanky things going on with officials. 
Garrison was a ref for the Purdue @ PSU game where PSU went to the line 41 times to Purdue's 21, and around 6 of Purdue's were at the end of OT when PSU was intentionally fouling. 
Garrison was a ref the next night for Michigan @ Iowa, where Iowa went to the line 24 times to Michigan's 12.
Garrison was again a ref last night for Michigan @ PSU, where PSU went to the line 34 times to Michigan's 16.
Those are some games where I saw a lot of verbal complaints about one-sided officiating. 
I think it would be interesting to see what other games he's reffed this year and see if there's anything to be taken away from it. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1542 on: February 13, 2019, 07:24:43 PM »
That said, I think there have been a few hanky things going on with officials.
Garrison was a ref for the Purdue @ PSU game where PSU went to the line 41 times to Purdue's 21, and around 6 of Purdue's were at the end of OT when PSU was intentionally fouling.
Garrison was a ref the next night for Michigan @ Iowa, where Iowa went to the line 24 times to Michigan's 12.
Garrison was again a ref last night for Michigan @ PSU, where PSU went to the line 34 times to Michigan's 16.
Those are some games where I saw a lot of verbal complaints about one-sided officiating.
I think it would be interesting to see what other games he's reffed this year and see if there's anything to be taken away from it.
That can be misleading.  Michigan had like 9 fouls in the last 2.30 of the game, most of them very intentional.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1543 on: February 13, 2019, 07:28:36 PM »
That can be misleading.  Michigan had like 9 fouls in the last 2.30 of the game, most of them very intentional.
Possibly true. I didn't watch the Michigan games, so I don't know. I can say that the Purdue/PSU game was actually much MORE lopsided as far as the calls than the numbers show, because PSU started intentionally fouling in OT and that got Purdue to the line a bunch late. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1544 on: February 13, 2019, 09:24:52 PM »
Garrison was the same guy that marched over to get face to face with Izzo once as well. 

Bad calls be damned, but when the officials make it abou them and fuel confrontation’s they are forgetting who the fans pay to see. When a coach hasn’t been kicked out of a game for 30+ years and you throw an ejection at him from 80 ft away while you are tied up in a separate conversation, there might be a little self reflecting necessary.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1545 on: February 13, 2019, 09:48:13 PM »
Guessing Collins is no longer Ks heir apparent

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1546 on: February 13, 2019, 09:49:46 PM »
I already acknowledged that Garrison correlating to 1-3 versus 21-0 could be idiosyncratic (that there's something, not about Michigan, but about Michigan's style that he calls differently than other refs). It could also be a whopper of a genuine coincidence. Not every complaint about a ref is a conspiracy theory. Both that can be true and that the correlation is curious.

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« Reply #1547 on: February 13, 2019, 11:20:01 PM »
Guessing Collins is no longer Ks heir apparent
Never was.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1548 on: February 13, 2019, 11:53:54 PM »
I already acknowledged that Garrison correlating to 1-3 versus 21-0 could be idiosyncratic (that there's something, not about Michigan, but about Michigan's style that he calls differently than other refs). It could also be a whopper of a genuine coincidence. Not every complaint about a ref is a conspiracy theory. Both that can be true and that the correlation is curious.

Was he reffing Minn-Neb. That was a rough end.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1549 on: February 14, 2019, 10:45:01 AM »
Was he reffing Minn-Neb. That was a rough end.
That was Kelly Pfeiffer. Young up and comer from South Dakota. He does a lot of B1G games. Does a good job in what I have seen. Ended up next to him on a plane once. Happy to chat about the nuances of each coach. Wouldn't say a bad thing about any current or former officials though. I was prodding him on TV Teddy. Looks like he got whistle happy and anticipated the foul in a big moment. Tough way for that one to end. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1550 on: February 14, 2019, 10:55:30 AM »
I've met Kelly Pfeiffer and wouldn't call him a good friend, but he has set me up with tickets to B1G basketball games in the past couple seasons.

Therefore, whenever he's on the court I pay attention to the job his crew does.  I think that crew is one of the better crews in the B1G.  Obviously they have some moments, it's a tough job.  but overall they are solid
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1551 on: February 14, 2019, 11:08:54 AM »
Two observations from last night's games:

First, I think that Northwestern is the worst team in the B1G right now.  Looking at the whole season maybe not, but right now I think they are the team you want your team to be playing if you just need a win.  

Second, I think that Minnesota's potential path to the Tournament is getting VERY narrow.  IMHO, they really needed that game last night.  They are now 6-8 and here are the six remaining games ranked, as usual, from most likely win to most likely loss:
  • @ Northwestern 2/28
  • vs Indiana 2/16
  • @ Rutgers 2/24
  • vs Michigan 2/21
  • vs Purdue 3/5
  • @ Maryland 3/8

IMHO, the Gophers have little or no chance in each of the last three listed above which means that they have to win the first three.  That isn't impossible but it leaves them with almost no margin for error.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1552 on: February 14, 2019, 11:28:22 AM »
I've met Kelly Pfeiffer and wouldn't call him a good friend, but he has set me up with tickets to B1G basketball games in the past couple seasons.

Therefore, whenever he's on the court I pay attention to the job his crew does.  I think that crew is one of the better crews in the B1G.  Obviously they have some moments, it's a tough job.  but overall they are solid
That call is starting to make more sense...even if you wouldn't call him a "friend" of the Nebraska program

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1553 on: February 14, 2019, 11:30:17 AM »
Two observations from last night's games:

First, I think that Northwestern is the worst team in the B1G right now.  Looking at the whole season maybe not, but right now I think they are the team you want your team to be playing if you just need a win.  

Second, I think that Minnesota's potential path to the Tournament is getting VERY narrow.  IMHO, they really needed that game last night.  They are now 6-8 and here are the six remaining games ranked, as usual, from most likely win to most likely loss:
  • @ Northwestern 2/28
  • vs Indiana 2/16
  • @ Rutgers 2/24
  • vs Michigan 2/21
  • vs Purdue 3/5
  • @ Maryland 3/8

IMHO, the Gophers have little or no chance in each of the last three listed above which means that they have to win the first three.  That isn't impossible but it leaves them with almost no margin for error.  
Could Lil Ricky survive that?  6 years and 1 tourney, with zero tourney wins.  They haven't won a postseason game of any kind since 2014, his first year.  They ran Tubby off after 6 years, and he did substantially better.

 

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