2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

[Anonymous Coward]

Interesting stat:

When Lewis Garrison refs, Michigan is 1-3. When anyone else refs, Michigan is 21-0.

Garrison also happens to be the only ref since the 1970s to eject one John Beilein.

Michigan fans are making it out to be the obvious sign of a scandal. I think it is more likely explained as a matter of reffing style. But even then, it's likely that Garrison has unconventional reffing habits and that his habits, even if totally innocent (and I have to give him that benefit of the doubt), are maximally and asymmetrically taxing to the idiosyncratic ways Michigan plays. Especially in the Iowa and PSU games. 

It'll be disappointing if he refs m/any more of Michigan's games.

[847badgerfan]

That. Effin. Sucked.

About sums it up. Put a fork in the championship now. Now I'm just hoping for 4th place and a Friday start.

[847badgerfan]

3 points in the last 5 minutes is not how to beat a good team. 


Happ was 10-20 from point blank range. 0-6 from the FT line. 6 (of UW's 10) turnovers. Those are not player of the year numbers - just decent, sans that ugly FT crap.


The real story? Davison 3-12 (2-8 from 3) and Trice 1-6 (0-2). MSU shut down the perimeter. They did a great job.

[medinabuckeye1]

I missed tonight's games for an event, but I figured Michigan would lose a game that they shouldn't at some point. I wish it wasn't to PSU of all teams but sobeit. It sounds like Purdue continues to look beatable with their loss tonight, as well, so I figure that 16-4 will still win the BigTen if not 15-5.

We currently project Purdue to win out and win the conference at 17-3 with MSU a game back at 16-4.  I think it is reasonably likely that Purdue will drop a game such that 16-4 will win the B1G but I highly doubt that 15-5 would be enough.  That would require all of the following:

• Michigan to finish no better than 4-2
• Michigan State to finish no better than 4-2
• Purdue to finish no better than 5-2
• Maryland to finish no better than 5-1

Any one or two of those things happening is reasonably likely.  All five of those things happening seems extremely unlikely to me.  

IMHO, something is wrong with the Wolverines.  Maybe the peaked too early, I'm not sure but this just doesn't look like the quality of team that they looked like back in early January.  Heading into the M/tOSU game, as an Ohio State fan, I frankly expected the Buckeyes to get run out of the gym.  At the time I saw Michigan as a possible #1 seed and I saw (and continue to see) the Buckeyes as a borderline tournament team.  Thus, I thought that Ohio State would need to play their best game just to keep it close.  Instead, I thought Ohio State played a terrible game and was still within striking distance until very late.  Since then the Wolverines are 2-2 and just look pretty average.  

In Michigan's last six games they play Maryland and Michigan State twice each.  I'm really looking forward to seeing how those games play out because I think Michigan needs to get something (I'm not sure what) straightened out before the tournament.  

[betarhoalphadelta]

Purdue just had a cold shooting night. They scored 38 in the first half but only 18 in the second half. 

It was even more glaring when you look at the second half in sections. In the first 8 minutes, Purdue scored 10 points, while Maryland scored 18 to tie the game at 48. In the final 12 minutes of the game, Purdue could only score 8 points.

Purdue shot 28% for the night. That's not going to get it done against anyone in the B1G, and certainly not against a team like Maryland.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Attaboy Leos.

[847badgerfan]

Purdue just had a cold shooting night. They scored 38 in the first half but only 18 in the second half. 

Sounds very familiar to me, being a Badger fan, as if it just happened yesterday.

[MaximumSam]

Man, how good is the Big Ten.  The worst team is...Rutgers I guess, at least by the stats guys.  But they are still pretty tough, and have wins over Miami, OSU, Nebraska, and Indiana.  By KenPom they are within a tic of UCLA, Notre Dame, Missouri, and South Carolina.  

[medinabuckeye1]

Man, how good is the Big Ten.  The worst team is...Rutgers I guess, at least by the stats guys.  But they are still pretty tough, and have wins over Miami, OSU, Nebraska, and Indiana.  By KenPom they are within a tic of UCLA, Notre Dame, Missouri, and South Carolina.  

Right now I think the B1G's worst team might be Northwestern, I guess we'll find out tonight.  Actually, both games tonight are interesting:
Minnesota at Nebraska:
By the tiers this is a projected loss for the Gophers but I actually think they'll probably pull it off.  They need this game.  Minnesota is a bubble team and currently projected to finish 7-13/17-14.  That wouldn't be enough so they are going to have to pick up an unexpected win or two.  This game might be their best chance to do that.  
Rutgers at Northwestern:
Rutgers has two nice upset wins (vtOSU, @PSU) but they also have an unexpected loss (vNU).  Tonight is their opportunity to avenge that unexpected home loss and make a strong case that they are not the B1G's doormat.  

[fezzador]

I know it's not B1G, but I don't think anyone except God and maybe Dickie V knew the Dookies were going to pull that one off last night.  Down 20+ with 9 minutes left.  Total collapse by L'ville.

Makes Iowa's comeback against NU look like small potatoes.

[FearlessF]

Sounds very familiar to me, being a Badger fan, as if it just happened yesterday.

youse guys have no idear about cold shooting
the Huskers are setting records - record cold

[ELA]

Was listening to Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander speculate that the committee is probably going to align themselves with the NET rankings, more than we might be accustomed to.  Particularly when it comes to including mid-major at larges who rank high in it.  Currently Buffalo (#24), Wofford (#28) and Lipscomb (#30) are all top 30 NET teams.

In the past, the RPI was a guideline, that they used, but they could deviate from it too, namely when they felt it overvalued mid-majors.  Here, it's still a guideline, but it's their guideline, that they created, for this specific purpose.  So for them to exclude teams like that is basically telling people that the algorithm that they created themselves, specifically for tourney selection, is wrong.  They likely aren't going to want to even hint at going down that road in Year 1, so they expect the selections to closely adhere to it.

[HailHailMSP]

Interesting stat:

When Lewis Garrison refs, Michigan is 1-3. When anyone else refs, Michigan is 21-0.

Garrison also happens to be the only ref since the 1970s to eject one John Beilein.

Michigan fans are making it out to be the obvious sign of a scandal. I think it is more likely explained as a matter of reffing style. But even then, it's likely that Garrison has unconventional reffing habits and that his habits, even if totally innocent (and I have to give him that benefit of the doubt), are maximally and asymmetrically taxing to the idiosyncratic ways Michigan plays. Especially in the Iowa and PSU games.

It'll be disappointing if he refs m/any more of Michigan's games.

I dont know that Garrison provided either of the Technical's. It was bizarre all around. The screen was moving a little and the elbow came high towards Simpson's head. They review that most times, so I dont get why at the end of the half it wasn't done. The 1st technical makes sense, but based on the replay, the 2nd T came from the official furthest from Beilein in the midst of a conversation with someone 80 feet away at the scorers table. He either heard something he didnt like, or was on a power trip, and decided to use it to his advantage. That sequence combined with the official that missed the 3rd grade level double dribble at a key spot down the stretch, left a lot to be desired for that crew. 
Regardless, Michigan performed terribly. The defensive scheme was a mess, until Livers was put on Stevens. Offensively they were out of sync. And, now that Matthews finally looks to be fixed, Iggy is has hit a massive Freshman slump. Add in some head-scratching turnovers from Poole and Simpson, and you have the recipe for the upset. 

[Brutus Buckeye]

Glad to see that Ttun fans don't confine their zebra condemnation to the gridiron.