2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

[bayareabadger]

This is the same idea:


https://mobile.twitter.com/bauncechill/status/1091498802131947520

Beilein is smart but no one is infallible. He has also never given a good explanation for the autobench policy. My compound question is (a) does he have a reason for being more conservative in this specific way than any other coach in america [of course he does] and (b) is it a good reason that no one else understands or is he just wrong?

 The theory goes that players in that kind of foul trouble tend to defend tentatively, which lessens their overall effectiveness. I think there is some evidence to that end, but not a ton. 

[msufan23]

With UM losing and going to -2 in the tiers I think getting rid of tier at the top might make the most sense to get them to even with a single drop. Unless Im missing some unintended thing that this would mess up.

1. Michigan State(Even)
2. Purdue(+1), Michigan(Even)
3. Wisconsin(-1), Maryland(-1), Iowa(-1)

Or if you want to reshuffle a little move Purdue up also and it gets both Pur and Wis to even

1. Michigan State(Even), Purdue(Even)
2. Michigan(Even)
3. Wisconsin(Even), Maryland(-1), Iowa(-1)

[mcwterps1]

A point of clarification that I’m surprised tv guys don’t make more. All charges are offensive fouls, not all offensive fouls are charges. The shoulder dip and forearm push off are offensive fouls, while charges are about positioning. That was a shoulder dip, so not a charge, so the circle doesn’t factor. It was also a soft call.
If I were you, I’d be mad. Maybe some at the refs, though  it was kind of the inverse of the free-throw disparity at your place in the eventual wash of swing-backs hours costs Wisconsin it’s fourth-best player.
 I would be more pissed at some combination of the coach and players.  Maryland l was playing awesome, but couldn’t quite build the lead up enough.  Wisconsin hung tough, even when it wasn’t playing that well, whethered a mess of missed free throws,  and finally it’s threes came.  That was winnable, and where I you, I would be pissed.
 That said, that was a game I was profoundly nervous about, and I am just pretty pleased to have a win.  If Wisconsin can get revenge on Minnesota in the barn, things would set up really nicely.

That, and the block on the other end, were clean.
The guy under the basket was in the air, so a bump goes a long way, but he should have access to the rim, straight up.
Either way, the defense in zone stalled Wisconsin, so I'm only mad about the lack of offense, which ended with those 2 crap calls. 
Didn't even notice until later that Hero Happ raked and drug Morsell while diving for that ball.
There were bad calls the other way, but the Bruno ghost fouls were costly.
Wisconsin couldn't miss late though. 

[bayareabadger]

That, and the block on the other end, were clean.
The guy under the basket was in the air, so a bump goes a long way, but he should have access to the rim, straight up.
Either way, the defense in zone stalled Wisconsin, so I'm only mad about the lack of offense, which ended with those 2 crap calls.
Didn't even notice until later that Hero Happ raked and drug Morsell while diving for that ball.
There were bad calls the other way, but the Bruno ghost fouls were costly.
Wisconsin couldn't miss late though.

We might be talking about different ones. I think there was a little shoulder nudge. One I'd be salty about if it were reversed, but one I understand. 
I never liked the zone, though I'd have to go back and look. UW teams usually murder zones, and UW's offense did pretty well. 
One thing that also struck me. UW had lots of chances it couldn't capitalize on. I kept worrying and worrying that would bit them, but Maryland didn't do a good job creating any space with that. It felt a little like the opposite of the Michigan game, where UM almost always had an answer. Is that on Turgeon? Maybe?
An interesting bit of reference. That was the fifth worst offensive day and fourth-worst defensive day Maryland has had. Wisconsin had its eighth best offensive day, seventh-worst defensive day. I woulda been more made about the defense in your shoes, though the offense wasn't great. Granted, I'm a UW fan, so I assume to beat them, it's more likely a game where UW's offense is bad, than an opponent's is good (the stats bear that out). 

[847badgerfan]

The Bruno ghost falls were costly for sure. Thankfully, UW was able to manage through the ghost fouls on Nate Reuvers in the end though. He's in a funk right now but it's still tough to lose a big guy when you're playing a huge team like Maryland.



That Terp team is going to be a load next season, assuming all those kids stay.

[847badgerfan]

Heh. Just took a look at the standings. 4th place. Let's see if they can hold on to that, or better. 



On to Minnesota.

[847badgerfan]

With UM losing and going to -2 in the tiers I think getting rid of tier at the top might make the most sense to get them to even with a single drop. Unless Im missing some unintended thing that this would mess up.

1. Michigan State(Even)
2. Purdue(+1), Michigan(Even)
3. Wisconsin(-1), Maryland(-1), Iowa(-1)

Or if you want to reshuffle a little move Purdue up also and it gets both Pur and Wis to even

1. Michigan State(Even), Purdue(Even)
2. Michigan(Even)
3. Wisconsin(Even), Maryland(-1), Iowa(-1)

I could get behind this one. Nice and clean. Let's see what the others have to say.

[mcwterps1]

The Bruno ghost falls were costly for sure. Thankfully, UW was able to manage through the ghost fouls on Nate Reuvers in the end though. He's in a funk right now but it's still tough to lose a big guy when you're playing a huge team like Maryland.



That Terp team is going to be a load next season, assuming all those kids stay.

Bruno is gone.  He's the offense.  That's why it was costly.
Did you see all the missed layups and put backs? 
That's why I'm not high on this squad. 

[medinabuckeye1]

I could get behind this one. Nice and clean. Let's see what the others have to say.

Tentatively, I agree with the two of you but I will not be updating until after the weekend so we'll have to see what else changes.
That PU/M game was a complete blowout but right now I think Purdue is the better team.

[847badgerfan]

Was just looking over some Maryland/Wisconsin stats. In Maryland's home game, they shot 29 free throws to UW's 6. In Wisconsin's home game, they shot 23 free throws to UMD's 8.



Something has to change here. This is complete BS.

[betarhoalphadelta]

I've read  but haven't confirmed independently, that the substitute refs for Purdue @ PSU were the refs that called UM @ Iowa. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Tentatively, I agree with the two of you but I will not be updating until after the weekend so we'll have to see what else changes.
That PU/M game was a complete blowout but right now I think Purdue is the better team.

I wonder if it's the inverse of what happened last year. Purdue with the Taiwan trip and four senior starters were cohesive to start the year, but other younger teams caught up as the season progressed.
This year Purdue was very young to start, and looked it, but now they're developing into a cohesive unit.

[MichiFan87]

Michigan's lack of depth was obviously exposed last night. I thought by this point in the year, at least one of the other freshmen would've cracked the rotation, but since that hasn't really happened (except by necessity like last night), I doubt that'll change for the rest of the year. Michigan's defense is usually good when Teske is in the game, so I'm not too concerned about that, but it goes to show how important it is for him to be on the court.

As for the problems with the offense, there are just too many bad shots being taken. I've said this before, but Poole is struggling, Matthews doing too much, Simpson's outside shooting is inconsistent, while Brooks and Livers don't do enough. Fortunately, Brazdeikis is playing well, again, and Teske has been rather consistent.

Onto Rutgers, though. It'll probably be closer than it should be, but the defense should shut them down so that 60 points should be enough to win.

[MarqHusker]

47-24 power 5 game in a 30 sec era?  Come on.  I don't mean to do a drive by on a hoops thread but the college game leaves a lot to be desired more often than not.