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Topic: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game

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bayareabadger

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2018, 03:57:57 PM »
(Also worth noting the deep balls fall into that uncanny valley of things that stick out in extreme cases and tend to feel more dramatic than they are)

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #85 on: October 10, 2018, 03:59:25 PM »
Of course you're not then you'd leave yourself open to chop busting for starting a crappy thread.Or even worse,one with no replies
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That, and I've also been admonished for starting threads too soon, starting threads that are normally started by other posters, and so forth. 
Best to just let someone else start 'em, and then jump in all willy nilly without reading the entire thread first. O0
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #86 on: October 10, 2018, 04:20:26 PM »
But (a) you changed the stat to be TDs over 20+ yards through the air and even then (b) acknowledged that he's in the middle of the pack (i.e., he's not "doing as well as [all] other B1G Qb's").
No, I'm just changing his stats, and comparing it to other quarterbacks entire body of work

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #87 on: October 10, 2018, 04:22:27 PM »
Eh, I'm not really a thread startin' kinda guy.
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pick up your game
throw something downfield more than 20 yards once in awhile!
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #88 on: October 10, 2018, 04:22:56 PM »
No, I'm just changing his stats, and comparing it to other quarterbacks entire body of work
That's fine, but even then it didn't accomplish what you said it did.
Beyond that, it's still probably true that comp% on all deep passes better measure of efficiency on deep passes. Narrowing it to TDs beyond 20 removes a chunk of data and doesn't really add much in return.

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2018, 04:26:12 PM »
nobody is out of shape that I can see.
Who in the conference has more?  Also- when your at the 18 and you throw a perfect pass into the endzone, it does not count as over 20, but it certainly is not the WR getting YAC.   I can think of at lest 4 or 5 more that fall into that category.
I will be shocked if any QB in the conference has anywhere near that many TD passes that were true deep balls into or near the end zone.
Just because the guy hits his WR in stride- others want to kid themselves that that's all he is doing.  Heck- just go watch the vid I attached earlier.
I don’t know who has more. I don’t have an army of film people. But someone does. And they said who has the best completion percentage of passes more than 20 yards. And their seems to be a lot of offense taken at what those raw numbers are. 
If you would like, a subscription will allow you to see if Haskins has the most in the conference. I’ll bet he has the most, and the most deep throws, thus a lower percentage. 
I watched the video. There are two aforementioned deep balls. One 14-yarder and a 17-yard TD that had 20-21 air yards. That’s nice. 
(And I know people are bent because they respond to posts ending in “this doesn’t actually matter much,” with more, complaining about this and that, plus questions asking someone else to go find thinks out for them)

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #90 on: October 10, 2018, 04:27:03 PM »
slacker
pick up your game
throw something downfield more than 20 yards once in awhile!
;)
Brutus is a  yards after catch type of guy
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #91 on: October 10, 2018, 04:29:50 PM »
Brutus gets is a  yards after catch type of guy
so, he's a yac'er and therefore a slacker
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #92 on: October 10, 2018, 04:32:14 PM »
ya know, there's a silver lining to having the Huskers start the conference slate at 0-3?

when the west teams play the east teams, it's very easy for me to root for the Badgers vs the Wolverines, cause I'm not the least concerned about trying to win the west

Go RED!
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #93 on: October 10, 2018, 04:33:04 PM »
Could be worse. 

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #94 on: October 10, 2018, 04:36:06 PM »
Coaches/AP poll are pretty meaningless until the end of the year imo. S&P+ is probably more accurate.
Notre Dame is the best defense that Michigan has seen to date, including Wisconsin's. S&P+ has the Domers unit ranked #5. Wisconsin's is ranked 55th. ND might be the best defense they'll have seen all year.
It will be a close game just because Wisconsin is a good team and also because: Harboffense.
Michigan tends to play a lot better at home than they do on the road. That is the only thing giving me hope. They probably beat a good Wisconsin team at home in a close game this week, then turn around and get embarrassed in East Lansing the next.
Thank you for grabbing the S&P data so I didn’t have to .
I’m excited to watch Harboffense with skin in the game. It’s weird how he runs oft creative schemes in a manner that feels like it’s all the cliches of boring offense. 

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #95 on: October 10, 2018, 04:37:16 PM »
ya know, there's a silver lining to having the Huskers start the conference slate at 0-3?
Instead of a welcome thread we can have an auf wiedersehen thread?
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #96 on: October 10, 2018, 04:38:31 PM »
so, he's a yac'er and therefore a slacker
You can show yerself out
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #97 on: October 10, 2018, 04:48:28 PM »
Instead of a welcome thread we can have an auf wiedersehen thread?
oh, we're not showing ourselves out
the money is too good and the Horns won't let us back in the old Big 8
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