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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2018, 08:51:26 PM »
Here are the groups emerging:
  • tOSU, M
  • IA, PSU, UW, MSU
  • UMD, NU, PU
  • MN, IU
  • UNL, IL
  • RU

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2018, 08:51:54 PM »
Good

1. Ohio State (--) - Survived a pesky Minn squad

2. Michigan (+3) - this team is a beast (at home) I wanted to slide TTUN up to #1 but I'll only move a team 3 spots up or down in a week.




3. Wisconsin (--) - how many of the injured are coming back?

4. Penn State (-2) - Great but not elite. 


5. Iowa (-1) - Looked better than OSU against the same opponents the last 2 weeks?
6. Michigan State (+1) - umm, how did they lose to Northwestern.

7. Maryland (-1) - Everyone beats Rutgers




Not Good







8. Northwestern (+2) - Needing OT to beat Nebraska doesn't inspire much

9. Minnesota (-1) - competitive in loss

10. Indiana (-1) - made Iowa look good




11. Purdue (--) - Keeping the Ill real


Bad


12. Nebraska (--) - Played with some heart, for a bit.

13. Illinois (--) - back to reality

14. Rutgers (--) - Super Super Sad Sad Panda

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2018, 08:58:42 PM »
Here's the tiebreaker link: https://bigten.org/news/2011/8/10/Big_Ten_Conference_Football_Divisional_Tiebreaker.aspx
Plenty of scenarios to type out, but Purdue's division loss to Northwestern is going to hurt in a tie-breaker situation unless they beat both Wisconsin and Iowa.
As I understand it, best case scenarios for Purdue
1) Win out (8-1). Outright division champ, assuming Northwestern loses one more.
2) Lose to one of OSU/MSU, and win the rest (7-2). 3-way tie with Wisconsin/Iowa, but Purdue will be 2-0 vs tied opponents and win the division.
3) A lot of variables at 6-3, but losing to OSU/MSU and winning out in West, or losing to Iowa + one of OSU/MSU *could* trigger a 3-way tie situation. Losing to Wisconsin + one of OSU/MSU will most likely create a 2-way tie w/Wisconsin holding H2H. Of course Northwestern is still in play, my head hurts... Paging @medinabuckeye1

ETA: He already beat me to it.
You are exactly right.  As long as they only lose to a B1G-E team from here out they have a VERY good chance to go to Indy.  They are 2-1/3-3 now so if they lost to either tOSU or MSU but otherwise won out they would finish 7-2/8-4.  In that case the Boilermakers would DEFINITELY go to Indianapolis if NU lost twice more.  If Northwestern only lost once more then both NU and PU would be 7-2.  Purdue would lose a two-way tie with Northwestern based on H2H so they would need a three-way tie with a team that beat NU.  In that case it goes to divisional record but what would hurt PU there is that NU already lost a non-divisional game.  If they other tied team also lost a non-divisional game then it would move down to the other tiebreakers and maybe PU could win there?  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2018, 12:16:19 PM »
Results posted, votes through SFBadger (16 voters):  

There was a lot of movement this week.  
  • Michigan was up one spot from 3rd to 2nd but it was really a MUCH bigger jump than that.  Last week they were closer to #4 (UW) than #3 (PSU) while this week they are closer to #1 (tOSU) than #3 (IA).  In total, Michigan moved from "almost fourth" to "almost first".  
  • Iowa was up two spots passing PSU and UW.  
  • Penn State was down two spots being passed by IA and M.  
  • Wisconsin was down a spot and a half passed by IA and now tied with MSU.  
  • MSU was up one spot from a tie for 6th/7th with NU into a tie for 5th/6th with UW.  
  • Maryland was up one spot passing NU.  
  • Northwestern was down a spot and a half, dropping out of the tie with MSU and being passed by UMD.  
  • Minnesota was up one spot passing IU.  
  • Indiana was down one spot being passed by MN.  
  • Nebraska was up one spot passing Illinois.  
  • Illinois was down a spot being passed by UNL.  

November 10th is shaping up to be a very interesting weekend here at Power Ranking HQ.  On that Saturday all fourteen of our teams are playing conference games and other than #2 M at #14 RU they all have games that are close enough that they could reasonably go either way:
  • #5/6 Wisconsin at #4 Penn State - adjascent
  • #9 Purdue at #10 Minnesota - adjascent
  • #13 Illinois at #12 Nebraska - adjascent
  • #7 Maryland at #11 Indiana - four spots separation
  • #1 Ohio State at #5/6 Michigan State - four and a half spots separation
  • #3 Iowa at #8 Northwestern - five spots separation

#10 Minnesota has a really interesting next five weeks.  Over the next five weeks they play the five teams ranked closest to then in our rankings:
  • at #8 Northwestern on 11/17
  • vs #9 Purdue on 11/10
  • vs #11 Indiana on 10/26
  • at #12 Nebraska on 10/20
  • at #13 Illinois on 11/3
I find this interesting because I could see them going either 5-0 or 0-5 over that stretch.  They are currently 3-3/0-3 with losses that were not very close to #1 tOSU, #3 Iowa, and #7 UMD.  If they go 5-0 they'll head to Madison for the Ax game at 8-3/5-3 and with a possible chance at the B1G-W title (depends what happens elsewhere).  If they go 0-5 they'll head to Madison at 3-8/0-8 with nothing to play for.  

Non-contiguous votes:
  • LittlePig has Maryland #4, nobody else has them higher than #6
  • LittlePig has Purdue #5, nobody else has them higher than #7
  • LittlePig has Penn State #9, nobody else has them lower than #6
  • SFBadger and I have Northwestern 11th and 10th respectively, nobody else has them lower than #8

Looking ahead to this weekend:
  • #1 Ohio State at #9 Purdue
  • #2 Michigan at #5/6 Michigan State
  • #7 Maryland at #3 Iowa
  • #4 Penn State at #11 Indiana
  • #13 Illinois at #5/6 Wisconsin
  • #8 Northwestern at #14 Rutgers
  • #10 Minnesota at #12 Nebraska

All fourteen teams are in action and five of the seven games feature the higher ranked team on the road.  It could be a very exciting weekend!

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2018, 01:12:52 PM »
The biggest mover last week was MSU in terms of slope on that graph. We really didn't see that one coming. Bill Connelly didn't either. He can't stop talking about it.

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2018, 01:18:05 PM »
Oops:
I inadvertently left off @TyphonInc 's vote when I tallied the totals.  I have corrected that and it doesn't change much other than breaking the UW/MSU tie for 5/6 in favor of Wisconsin.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2018, 11:34:01 AM »
Massey composite rankings (102 rankings), with last week in parenthesis...

  • Alabama (1)
  • Clemson (3)
  • OHIO STATE (4)
  • Notre Dame (5)
  • LSU (8)
  • MICHIGAN (9)
  • Georgia (2)
  • Oklahoma (7)
  • Florida (11)
  • Texas (14)
  • Kentucky (13)
  • IOWA (18)
  • NC State (15)
  • Central Florida (16)
  • Texas A&M (21)
  • PENN STATE (6)
  • Duke (22)
  • Washington (12)
  • West Virginia (10)
  • Mississippi State (20)
  • Stanford (25)
  • Utah (-)
  • Cincinnati (-)
  • MICHIGAN STATE (-)
  • Texas Tech (-)

  • 29. Wisconsin (17)
  • 41. Maryland (48)
  • 54. Northwestern (58)
  • 56. Minnesota (57)
  • 58. Indiana (50)
  • 59. Purdue (65)
  • 96. Illinois (82)
  • 106. Nebraska (106)
  • 124. Rutgers (122)

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 7
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2018, 03:40:16 PM »
Results posted, votes through SFBadger (16 voters):  

There was a lot of movement this week.  
  • Michigan was up one spot from 3rd to 2nd but it was really a MUCH bigger jump than that.  Last week they were closer to #4 (UW) than #3 (PSU) while this week they are closer to #1 (tOSU) than #3 (IA).  In total, Michigan moved from "almost fourth" to "almost first".  
  • Iowa was up two spots passing PSU and UW.  
  • Penn State was down two spots being passed by IA and M.  
  • Wisconsin was down a spot and a half passed by IA and now tied with MSU.  
  • MSU was up one spot from a tie for 6th/7th with NU into a tie for 5th/6th with UW.  
  • Maryland was up one spot passing NU.  
  • Northwestern was down a spot and a half, dropping out of the tie with MSU and being passed by UMD.  
  • Minnesota was up one spot passing IU.  
  • Indiana was down one spot being passed by MN.  
  • Nebraska was up one spot passing Illinois.  
  • Illinois was down a spot being passed by UNL.  

November 10th is shaping up to be a very interesting weekend here at Power Ranking HQ.  On that Saturday all fourteen of our teams are playing conference games and other than #2 M at #14 RU they all have games that are close enough that they could reasonably go either way:
  • #5/6 Wisconsin at #4 Penn State - adjascent
  • #9 Purdue at #10 Minnesota - adjascent
  • #13 Illinois at #12 Nebraska - adjascent
  • #7 Maryland at #11 Indiana - four spots separation
  • #1 Ohio State at #5/6 Michigan State - four and a half spots separation
  • #3 Iowa at #8 Northwestern - five spots separation

#10 Minnesota has a really interesting next five weeks.  Over the next five weeks they play the five teams ranked closest to then in our rankings:
  • at #8 Northwestern on 11/17
  • vs #9 Purdue on 11/10
  • vs #11 Indiana on 10/26
  • at #12 Nebraska on 10/20
  • at #13 Illinois on 11/3
I find this interesting because I could see them going either 5-0 or 0-5 over that stretch.  They are currently 3-3/0-3 with losses that were not very close to #1 tOSU, #3 Iowa, and #7 UMD.  If they go 5-0 they'll head to Madison for the Ax game at 8-3/5-3 and with a possible chance at the B1G-W title (depends what happens elsewhere).  If they go 0-5 they'll head to Madison at 3-8/0-8 with nothing to play for.  

Non-contiguous votes:
  • LittlePig has Maryland #4, nobody else has them higher than #6
  • LittlePig has Purdue #5, nobody else has them higher than #7
  • LittlePig has Penn State #9, nobody else has them lower than #6
  • SFBadger and I have Northwestern 11th and 10th respectively, nobody else has them lower than #8

Looking ahead to this weekend:
  • #1 Ohio State at #9 Purdue
  • #2 Michigan at #5/6 Michigan State
  • #7 Maryland at #3 Iowa
  • #4 Penn State at #11 Indiana
  • #13 Illinois at #5/6 Wisconsin
  • #8 Northwestern at #14 Rutgers
  • #10 Minnesota at #12 Nebraska

All fourteen teams are in action and five of the seven games feature the higher ranked team on the road.  It could be a very exciting weekend!
I thought about tweaking my rankings right after I posted, but then I was like, meh, well I did have my own logic I used when I first posted.  So Ieft them alone and I will just change them next week when I am proven wrong (again)

 

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