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Topic: #11 Michigan (0-1, 2-1) at #13 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) - Post Game

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #140 on: September 16, 2019, 05:00:49 PM »
Biggest issues in the IR Badge posted are Nelson and the tight ends. Nelson is a big loss from the defensive backfield at a time when we expect the backfield to be tested, and the Badgers just don't have many options left, after the starter, at tight end (it's Ferguson, then freshmen).  That's strange for a Chryst-coached team. 
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #141 on: September 16, 2019, 05:02:50 PM »
I'd still like to know why Penniston transferred to              . Not sure why any kid would go from being a starting TE at Wisconsin to that mess.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #142 on: September 16, 2019, 05:09:44 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on September 16, 2019, 02:24:44 PM
Hope you’re wrong about that but you may be right. I think a conservative game plan gets them beat pretty soundly
Agreed,stick with what got you there,keep the weasels guessing.Throwing keeps them on there heels and M's D is not to be dreaded IMO.They beat UW like a dusty rug last year time to pay the Piper.And if M's offense starts clicking you'll have to open up the playbook anyway.Damn I can't wait good thing it's an early KO
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #143 on: September 16, 2019, 05:21:04 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on September 16, 2019, 04:03:52 PM
 I'm afraid he just doesn't have that high of a football IQ or a real feel for the position. He throws a nice looking ball and he's athletic, but he is not a smart football player. He's kind of a dumb football player actually.
I dunno it could be JH rubbing off on him.I agree with what much of what you said,but he certainly looked decent for a stretch last season.So it could be injury.Change it up and throw in MAC
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #144 on: September 16, 2019, 06:20:11 PM »
Maybe coaches really do like the flavor of vanilla? Hmm...


When working to prepare for this new-look scheme just two games into the season, Chryst noted that whether on offense, on defense or special teams, that they are "not seeing it all."

"Yet, you’ve got to understand what a team’s trying to do, kind of what’s their base for lack of a better term," Chryst said. "You know you’re going to see things that you’re not seeing on film, and that’s part of it. You’ve got to be able to adjust within the flow of a game or fact on a play. I think that’s the challenge that everyone faces at this point in the year.”

https://wisconsin.rivals.com/news/week-4-wisconsin-badgers-paul-chryst-press-conference-highlights
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #145 on: September 16, 2019, 06:21:44 PM »
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I dunno it could be JH rubbing off on him.I agree with what much of what you said,but he certainly looked decent for a stretch last season.So it could be injury.Change it up and throw in MAC
Not sure what it is. The reality is that Harbaugh isn't some QB whisperer like we all thought. Andrew Luck was a hell of a talent that almost anyone could've coached to greatness. And it looks like that maybe Greg Roman was the real brains behind that Kapernick operation with the 49ers. Lamar Jackson looked lost as a passer last year- Greg Roman comes in and Jackson does a complete turn-around in one off-season.

Shea was kinda known as maybe not the smartest QB- sort of a wreckless QB that tried too hard and tried to play hero ball at Ole Miss. He showed flashes of greatness- but he was never consistent at Ole Miss. Same thing is rearing it's head at Michigan. He's obviously a talented athlete and he has an above average arm and throws a nice looking football. But something really seems to be missing between the ears. He just doesn't have it upstairs. And that is what matters more than anything.

Shea is the best QB that Harbaugh has had at Michigan by far. But that's not saying much. Rudock was nothing more than a game-manager, Speight was mediocre at best, John O'Korn was downright terrible, and Brandon Peters got the rug yanked from under him once Patterson transferred in. McCaffrey can't seem to get on the field and actually play QB despite Shea's obvious struggles and injury- they only use McCaffrey as a gimmick. Joe Milton has a cannon arm but he looks like he might be another Shane Morris to me. Giant arm and absolutely nothing else at all.

The former 1st round draft pick, ex-NFL QB and former All-American QB who was considered a "QB guru" has done a pretty piss poor job at landing and developing an elite QB at Michigan.  You'd think that a guy who played the position at a high level in college and was a 1st round pick and played in the NFL for 14 seasons and coached Luck in college and took Kapernick to the Super Bowl in the pros would be able to find a real life elite QB in 5 years. Guess not.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #146 on: September 16, 2019, 06:33:14 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 16, 2019, 06:20:11 PM
Maybe coaches really do like the flavor of vanilla? Hmm...


When working to prepare for this new-look scheme just two games into the season, Chryst noted that whether on offense, on defense or special teams, that they are "not seeing it all."

"Yet, you’ve got to understand what a team’s trying to do, kind of what’s their base for lack of a better term," Chryst said. "You know you’re going to see things that you’re not seeing on film, and that’s part of it. You’ve got to be able to adjust within the flow of a game or fact on a play. I think that’s the challenge that everyone faces at this point in the year.”

https://wisconsin.rivals.com/news/week-4-wisconsin-badgers-paul-chryst-press-conference-highlights
well it's only been two games- there is no doubt there is a ton of stuff that Michigan offense hasn't even gotten to yet. There has also been a lot of sloppy mistakes, dumb football, and they are starting 3 freshman right now on offense. Their projected starter at RT- Rs Soph. Andrew Steuber tore his ACL about a week before the season started and they are starting a freshman at RT. Their senior LT- Runyan Jr- has been injured the first few weeks and they were starting a freshman at LT. I like both the freshman tackles, but it looks to me like they weren't quite ready to start just yet. Both probably needed another year of development. Especially Ryan Hayes- who had never played OL in his life before getting to Michigan. They are also starting a freshman at RB. They are also without their fastest, best WR in Donovan Peoples-Jones.

The Michigan offense has been so bad the first couple weeks, almost feels like there is nowhere it can go but up. Getting Runyan back should boost the line a little bit. Having DPJ back should open things up for all the other WR's a little bit.

My main area of concern is still Shea Patterson. I'm just not sold he is the guy to QB this team. If he doesn't get his act together and soon- time to give McCaffrey a shot.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #147 on: September 16, 2019, 09:08:08 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 16, 2019, 01:22:16 PM
I know what he meant, but to someone who might not know, it would look different. He essentially said that playing UW would be a relief from MTSU and Army.
I haven't seen the quote. Source it for us?
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #148 on: September 17, 2019, 06:26:32 AM »
Lots of sources. This one came up first when I typed in "Don Brown Wisconsin".

https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/09/michigan-football-defense-don-brown-not-scared-Wisconsin/
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #149 on: September 17, 2019, 08:04:57 AM »
Michigan coach Harbaugh is unsure if LT Runyan or WR DPJ will play.  Both were injured the last week of camp.  Runyan dressed for the Middle Tennessee and Army games, DPJ did not.  DPJ is out of the soft boot.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2019/09/16/jim-harbaugh-not-sure-if-donovan-peoples-jones-jon-runyan-return/2343046001/


Other source says DT Dwumfour and RB Wilson out and LB Ross and DT Jeter in:


https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Injury-recap-The-latest-on-several-injured-Michigan-football-players-135726398/


So, it's anybody's guess who will play Saturday.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #150 on: September 17, 2019, 08:13:06 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 17, 2019, 06:26:32 AM
Lots of sources. This one came up first when I typed in "Don Brown Wisconsin".

https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/09/michigan-football-defense-don-brown-not-scared-Wisconsin/

So Brown basically is trying to convince himself/others UW will be playing into his hands.Schemes,formations,alignments aren't squat,ya know Jimmy's & Joe's not the Xs & Os.Some of Don's boys are going to be looking thru their earholes.If M can go up top this will be a game but their defense isn't going to stop Wisconsin.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #151 on: September 17, 2019, 08:19:02 AM »
 You might be right Nubzz-but I think Michigan’s defense is being underappreciated here and can substantially slow down the Wisconsin offense.    

 Of course I think the same is true on the other side. My best guess is this game comes down to who can create some big plays down field, especially early to get a lead 
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #152 on: September 17, 2019, 08:26:15 AM »
Rocket science dictates that Don Brown will prioritize stopping or slowing down the Badger's All-American Heisman candidate RB Taylor.    Wisconsin QB Coan has looked good the first two games but something tells me he will not have as much time to throw the ball on Saturday.  If Michigan can't stop Wisconsin on the ground it could be a long day for the Wolverines.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #153 on: September 17, 2019, 08:26:47 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 17, 2019, 08:04:57 AM
So, it's anybody's guess who will play Saturday.
You have to realize the last 2 seasons nobody has more starters injured/out than UW,save MSU.So the injury reports will garner no attention/sympathy 
whether JH is sandbagging or not.Haven't been this pumped for a game in while
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