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roadvol

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Re: Over Throw Joe
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2022, 12:40:16 PM »


I have to congratualate you Fuzz.....something big did happen Friday...( Vols 31-Tigrs 14), very perceptive!!
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Re: Over Throw Joe
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2022, 01:05:22 PM »


My opinion is just that the same as everyone else it just an opinion on how we see things. Mine just happens to be a little different than the homers.

I'm not looking through orange-colored glasses I just call it as see it.

Do I want Milton to be the quarterback most people woke up this morning thinking he is going to be?  Yes I do but only time will tell especially when he plays in the SEC against the likes of GA and BAMA defenses.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2022, 04:50:38 PM »
Gym's got a point (by golly!).

We had a lot of three and outs.  Five and outs.  Lots of punts.  Lots of questionable decisions by OJ.  If they had an experienced QB who could handle the blitzes we threw at him all night, it's a different ballgame.  

But that's football. 

There was a stretch in the game that was BORING.  We get a stop, get the ball, and punt it right back to them after 3-5 plays.  I texted someone, late in the first half or the third quarter, "what have we had the ball -- like, 30 seconds?"

TOP is irrelevant when you're scoring in a minute in half, like we did all year.  But when you're not, your D is on the field 100 plays.  I really thought when they gashed us to make it 21-14, our D was done.  Gassed.  I texted "if we don't score, they will win."

ENORMOUS credit to a D that clamped down on a QB that they had rattled (where were they against USC?  But that was a FAR more experienced QB, finally finding a groove).

Bottom line:  we won.  Joe made some BEAUTIFUL throws.  Both QBs we saw last night have a TON of potential.  Hopefully, Joe can continue to grow into his.  If he does -- we'll be alright.  I don't think he's ever gonna be great.  But he can be pretty dadgum good.

The "flat-footed" thing:  

When you can throw it 70 yards on your knees, I guess you can get away with it.

I think Joe has so firmly established that he WILL NOT be flustered -- and he's so dang big and strong -- that he just sort of stands there.  Too long, a lot of times.  But -- he DOESN'T get flustered.  That's good.  He DOES get sacked.  And that's not.

Something he CAN get better at.  And might, with experience.  


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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2022, 04:54:33 PM »
Reminds me of the critics who said Manning would never make it in the NFL because he had " nervous feet"

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Re: Over Throw Joe
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2022, 05:00:07 PM »
Reminds me of the critics who said Manning would never make it in the NFL because he had " nervous feet"
Happy feet.

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Re: Over Throw Joe
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2022, 05:09:55 PM »
Keep the feet moving is taught now.  In large part because of manning.  Curiously it makes a bigger difference with mobile QBs.  

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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2022, 05:21:11 PM »
I don’t know about you, but I didn’t get to see enough of Cade Klubnik’s parents last night during the orange bowl.  I was so mad when the broadcasters cut away from showing them in the audience just to show some plays on the field.  So here’s a picture, suitable for framing.  ENJOY! 


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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2022, 06:58:49 PM »
Keep the feet moving is taught now.  In large part because of manning.  Curiously it makes a bigger difference with mobile QBs. 
Makes sense.  Keep the feet moving -- quicker take off.
But --
one thing it took a LONG time for me to figger out, in golf:
I used to read those dumb golf magazines, full of little tips, techniques.  Frame by frame of golf swings.  Tiger Woods, Ernie Els, whatever... here's the way to do it...
I watched a Nicklaus vid, many years ago, tried to emulate his swing...

You can get your head in a real mess, trying to follow all that stuff.  "Do this, don't do that...".  LEGALISM ( LOL -- funny to me...)...
What I finally figured out --
there's not a "perfect swing".  There's ALL KINDS of ways to hit a golf ball.  All that matters is getting that club face square at impact.  Club speed is a bonus.
There's all kinds of ways to get there.  Check out Bobby Jones sometimes...  Arnold Palmer...

It's WHAT WORKS FOR YOU.
There are certain techniques that are essential, of course.  E.g., shifting your weight from your left to right foot, at the right moment...

I saw an article where the UT QB coach said something about OJ's hips last night.  Can't remember or find how he put it.  But his hips were right last night.  And so were his throws.

Peyton has had just a little success with his happy feet.  

Joe might be able to be successful flat-footed.  AS LONG as he can take off when he needs to, from a dead stop.  

That wouldn't work for me.  Maybe it does for him... 

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Re: Over Throw Joe
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2023, 07:51:37 AM »
Clemson lost to two SEC East teams and ND ...


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Re: Over Throw Joe
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2023, 10:23:07 AM »


If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2023, 10:32:23 AM »
I equate it to walking and chewing gum.  What I think a linebacker thinks is "he's snapped the ball amd dropping into pocket; now he's considering running based on rush;(goes statue) now he's scanning for receivers". 

Those little movements forward and back, side to side, demonstrate an awareness of his immediate surroundings and adjustments to the closing pressure and it's from peripheral vision.  As a defender, you can close with a purpose at full tilt instead of holding back a little in case you've gotta change direction.  

Joe must be taught to move and scan.  His becoming flat footed- not even on the balls of his feet- makes it easier for the D plain and simple.  

I believe that one mechanic is the biggest hurdle from him being a serviceable QB and being a great one.  Its that big a deal. 

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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2023, 11:18:19 AM »
Remember all the debates about whether Tennessee was worthy of a seat at the table when it comes to being an elite football school?   We were told to manage our expectations, because of demographics or in-state talent or whatever.   Yeah, I never bought into that.   


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Re: Over Throw Joe
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2023, 11:21:27 AM »
Well, look what TCU has done with FAR less resource ...

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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2023, 11:55:45 AM »
Remember all the debates about whether Tennessee was worthy of a seat at the table when it comes to being an elite football school?  We were told to manage our expectations, because of demographics or in-state talent or whatever.  Yeah, I never bought into that. 

[img width=500 height=497.997]https://i.imgur.com/Txez6UC.jpg[/img]
Hmmm...I wonder who said that? I remember a poster saying UT would always be a middle of the conference mediocre team and Vol fans were unrealistic? Gosh...wish I could remember who said that!!!!

 

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