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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1470 on: January 04, 2025, 05:03:25 PM »
Deep pockets make a bowl a major these days.  I was pretty happy when the Peach invited SEC 6 and ACC 2, the games were usually good and it sold out.  They did that for a number of years, the ACC team got a larger payout.  Folks came and enjoyed the experience, I think on NYE.  It worked pretty nicely for a minor bowl.

I recall when the Gator was probably the next best bowl after the four majors.  Getting there meant you had a pretty good year, like 9-2.    Then the Citrus took over as the next best, the highest payout other than a major. 

Speaking of which, when did QBs largely stop calling their own plays?

Yeah it was very regional, which is why I never really cared much about it.  Just personal opinion of course.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1471 on: January 05, 2025, 09:10:34 PM »

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I recall when the Gator was probably the next best bowl after the four majors.  Getting there meant you had a pretty good year, like 9-2.    Then the Citrus took over as the next best, the highest payout other than a major.
Yep. The Gator Bowl was usually the #5 bowl game in the 1960s. At that time, the Tangerine Bowl (ancestor of the Citrus) was definitely a few steps down from there.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1472 on: January 06, 2025, 11:15:50 AM »
And OU.

But if OU and Vandy get it, then give it to Texas...

But it would have to be split with LSU.  

So it's decided.  LSU and Texas share the title this year.  Glad you all agree.  

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« Reply #1473 on: January 06, 2025, 11:21:55 AM »
UGA never played in the Fiesta.  It was a minor bowl, as was the Peach, "back in the day".  UGA does have a lot of bowl game wins.

I don't know that LSU has ever played the Fiesta.  I know for sure we've never played the Rose.  We would've gotten a Rose invite at the end of the 2006 season, but stoopid UCLA had to beat stoopid USC, knocking them out of the Fiesta/NC, giving the Gators a shot (and a NC), and knocking us out of the Rose when the Rose was free to select USC instead. 

We would've played Michigan, Les Miles' alma mater.  The story line was tailor-made, but neaux.  We can't have nice things.

We've still never played Michigan, ever.  They're clearly scared and ducking us.  

I think we have a record Sugar bowl appearances.  Or we used to, don't know if that still stands.  The Sugar seems to love LSU, odd to me, because they're influenced by local businesses, who I'd think hate when LSU is in the Sugar since fans won't typically get hotels or do touristy things. 

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1474 on: January 06, 2025, 02:54:49 PM »
Apparently, Bama has the most SB appearances, and wins.  Or so they claim ...

UGA has two Rose Bowl wins, which is kind neat, and they have played every Blue Blood of whatever ilk, Oklahoma only the once when Mayfield thought he had it locked up.


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« Reply #1475 on: January 06, 2025, 05:55:20 PM »
Horns have two Rose Bowl wins as well, including some game played by a scrub UT QB against the gReAtEsT tEaM EVAR!!!!

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« Reply #1476 on: January 07, 2025, 09:59:26 AM »
I think people play up the "greatest team ever" thing with 2005 USC.  It's true that the Trojans got a lot of national talk about maybe being the greatest offense ever.  I don't remember any delusions about greatest defense ever.  In fact, I remember many people talking about how the defense wasn't nearly as good as 2004 or even 2003.  (They were right, but that's neither here nor there when talking about perception.)  And Texas had a crap-ton of their own hype.  Like.....a lot.  I remember it really well.  It was an exciting time to be in Austin, even for a non-fan, because all week I listened to pundits talk about how great they were and how VY was the greatest single player they had ever seen, along with Reggie Bush, the other greatest single player they had ever seen.  And when it came down to it, USC was favored by 7.  That's not exactly zOMG TeXAs staNdz NO cHANCe lol!

I think the fans got in on the disrespect card teams like to play and some of them never recovered from it.  Where I think they have a point is in just how few pundits picked Texas.  Even though they loved Texas, they weren't willing to pick them.  

I picked Texas back then, for no other reason than I knew Texas could play defense and I trusted them to get a few more stops than USC could, which mostly played out.  When VY said "USC hasn't seen anything like us" I thought he was just telling the truth rather than being brash.  He was right on.

Anyway, it's all washed away in history now, for sure.  Even Matt Leinart said on Big Noon Kickoff that 2019 LSU was the best offense he's ever seen :)

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« Reply #1477 on: January 07, 2025, 10:16:11 AM »
It's not me, it's the fact that throughout December 2005, ESPN ran an entire series of shows theoretically pitting that 2005 USC team against the historical greatest college football teams of all time, and determined in each episode that USC was better.  Zero talk about Texas in all of those.  It was really over the top and ridiculous.

There's a notorious thread on hornfans that mockingly compared that Triojans team to the greatest armies of all time.  It was determined that they'd easily beat any of the Russian and German armies, shred Napoleon, they'd crush the Romans, wipe the floor with Alexander the Great, but Genghis Khan might be able to keep it within 17...

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1478 on: January 07, 2025, 10:19:13 AM »
No, I thought the 2003 OU team was the greatest of all time?  

The major reason why USC got a lot of press is because they had won like two championships in a row, so they were working on a kind of dynasty that we hadn't seen in awhile.  I very well remember that Texas received a lot of hype, but it was being billed as one of the greatest games of all time and it actually lived up to the hype.  

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« Reply #1479 on: January 07, 2025, 10:23:10 AM »
No, I thought the 2003 OU team was the greatest of all time? 

The major reason why USC got a lot of press is because they had won like two championships in a row, so they were working on a kind of dynasty that we hadn't seen in awhile.  I very well remember that Texas received a lot of hype, but it was being billed as one of the greatest games of all time and it actually lived up to the hype. 

Like I said, ESPN ran a ridiculous month-long series pimping USC as the Greatest of All Time.  It was hilariously over the top and made me that much happier when Texas won the game.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1480 on: January 07, 2025, 10:37:37 AM »
I think 1995 Nebraska would be hard to beat by teams of that era.


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1481 on: January 07, 2025, 10:40:42 AM »
1995 Nebraska is the best college football team of all time, IMO.


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« Reply #1482 on: January 07, 2025, 10:59:59 AM »
No, I thought the 2003 OU team was the greatest of all time? 

2003 OU was the Greatest Team Of All Time, but only until they ran into Darren Sproles and the KSU Wildcats in the B12CG.  After that the narrative switched to "WHY ISN'T USC PLAYING LSU?!?!!" and "There can be no real champion here if USC isn't in the game."  

That was the start of the For-Real USC Hype Train and was part of the cause of the 2005 USC hype.  Everybody saw--and even talked about--how USC's defense wasn't as good as it had been, and maybe even downright mediocre.  But the USC Hype had 3 seasons of momentum at that point and they just couldn't help themselves.  

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1483 on: January 07, 2025, 11:02:43 AM »
1995 Nebraska is the best college football team of all time, IMO.

There's a few different ways to try and measure that, and there's certainly more than one valid opinion, however one chooses to measure it.  1995 Nebraska has to be in first-tier consideration any way you look at it, imo.  You may not ultimately choose them, but if you didn't think real hard about them and worry you should have picked them, you're doing it wrong.  

 

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