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Cincydawg

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Re: Beer
« Reply #854 on: June 11, 2024, 04:18:24 PM »
Sweetwater will be walkable in a year or so once the Beltline is finished out that way.  It's in a strange location, we generally drive, it's maybe 2.5 miles.  It gets crowded fast, and I do like their beers.
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« Reply #855 on: June 11, 2024, 05:15:05 PM »
Naturally we have to hit the Celis Brewery for their Belgian style beers.




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Re: Beer
« Reply #856 on: June 14, 2024, 08:53:44 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 11, 2024, 12:48:19 PM
and they would

the youngest is the assistant manager here.........

https://www.bierhausne.com/

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Is that the place where my esposita and I met your daughter?
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« Reply #857 on: June 14, 2024, 09:13:04 AM »
it's a couple blocks away, owned by the same people

she took the position a month ago

I like this place better.  They offer food.
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« Reply #858 on: June 14, 2024, 03:44:12 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 14, 2024, 09:13:04 AM
it's a couple blocks away, owned by the same people

she took the position a month ago

I like this place better.  They offer food.
That explains why the name of the place didn't sound familiar.
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« Reply #859 on: June 14, 2024, 04:42:43 PM »
yes, we met at the Kinkaider Taproom
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« Reply #860 on: June 14, 2024, 06:26:30 PM »
Hogan, the iconic WWE Hall of Fame wrestler and global icon, spent years entering the ring to the classic theme song "Real American." Now the Hulkamaniacs of the 1980s and 1990s are of the legal drinking age and can enjoy Real American Beer, which launches on Thursday.

"It doesn't matter if you're Republican, a Democrat. It doesn't matter what sex you are, doesn't matter what race you are, where you're from, what you believe in — I've got a beer that's going to bring America back together, one beer at a time," Hogan told Fox News Digital.


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« Reply #861 on: June 14, 2024, 07:39:24 PM »
I'm gonna go ahead and make a guess, that it sucks.
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« Reply #862 on: June 14, 2024, 09:09:28 PM »
well, it doesn't say light or lite
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Re: Beer
« Reply #863 on: June 15, 2024, 07:52:55 AM »
What is a thing or three that makes good beer more expensive than cheap beer?
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« Reply #864 on: June 17, 2024, 01:26:42 PM »
1) The cost of ingredients is a major factor-- corn and rice are cheap adjuncts, so beer made from them is cheaper.  Better beers don't use corn or rice, it's all malted barley or even more expensive grains like wheat.  And then specialty beers might throw in even more expensive ingredients like vanilla bean or coffee.  

2) Some of the "better" beers are aged longer, and in barrels, which is more expensive than the short aging times in vats used for cheaper beers.  For example Budweiser is aged for 21 days, while an Imperial Stout might be aged for 3 months to 2 years.  Fewer "turns" from your processing equipment leads to a higher cost of production by comparison.

3) Higher alcohol beers require more malt.  A 10% Imperial Stout might require 2x-3x more malt than a light lager, which obviously adds to the cost.

And of course smaller craft breweries don't enjoy the same economies of scale in either production or purchasing that the larger macro-breweries have, so they'd end up spending more just to make the same exact beer, anyway.
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Re: Beer
« Reply #865 on: June 17, 2024, 02:28:20 PM »
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Re: Beer
« Reply #866 on: June 17, 2024, 02:39:47 PM »
What Are the Cheapest Grains and Starches? (prospre.io)

1. White Potatoes
The average cost of conventional white potatoes is about $2 per kilogram, making this gluten-free ingredient the cheapest starch. Conventional sweet potatoes, which are technically not potatoes, can cost up to $3 per kilogram. Potatoes of any variety are some of the cheapest starches. Use the Prospre app to get nutrition facts and macronutrient profiles for potatoes or any other ingredients.
2. Cornmeal 
Bulk cornmeal can cost as little as $2 per kilogram, which makes this ingredient one of the cheapest grains. Whole grain cornmeal with the germ intact is about $5 per kilogram. Corn is also gluten-free. Mix fine-ground cornmeal with your preferred type of flour to make cornbread. Medium- or coarse-ground cornmeal are better for grits or polenta.
3. Oats
Oats are a cheap and highly nutritious grain. Quick oats are more affordable than rolled oats, cook faster on account of being steamed and rolled thinner prior to drying and have a slightly smoother texture. The average price for conventional oats is around $2 per kilogram and ranges up to $6 per kilogram for organic rolled oats.
4. Barley
Edible barley is sold in hulled or pearled form. Hulling removes the inedible outer layer of the grain and retains the bran. Bulk hulled barley is one of the cheapest grains at  $13 per kilogram, but preparing this ingredient requires soaking and a longer cooking time. Pearl barley is more processed, but cooks faster. The average price of pearled barley is about $20 per kilogram.
5. Flour
You can buy all-purpose flour in bulk for $2 per kilogram. Bulk whole wheat flour costs significantly more, with an average cost of $4 per kilogram. You should also expect to pay more for organic flour or flour made from gluten-free grains unless you make your own oat or rice flour by grinding these ingredients into fine powder.
6. Wheat Berries
Raw wheat berries are sold without husks but with the bran, germ and endosperm intact to preserve the high nutritional content of whole grain wheat. The price of wheat berries ranges from  $2 to $8 per kilogram based on whether you buy this ingredient in bulk or smaller quantities cultivated to specific standards.
7. Bulgur Wheat
Bulgur wheat is made from wheat kernels that are cracked, parboiled and dried prior to packaging, which makes them cook faster than raw wheat berries or other whole wheat products. Bulgur ranges in price from $3 to $5 per kilogram, making it one of the cheapest grains.
8. Rice
The price of bulk white rice can be as low as $3 per kilogram. Bulk brown rice is slightly more expensive, with an average cost of $6 per kilogram. The debate over the nutritional benefits of various types of rice is ongoing, but everyone agrees that this naturally gluten-free grain is one of the most affordable grains that you can serve with almost any meal.



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Re: Beer
« Reply #867 on: June 17, 2024, 03:06:49 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 17, 2024, 02:28:20 PM
On a large scale, is corn and rice significantly cheaper than hops and malted barley? | Community | BeerAdvocate

Some interesting discussions about use of rice to "dull down" beers.



Hmmm if rice is more expensive than malted barley that's news to me.  And I don't think it has always been.

As for "dull down" I'm not buying it.  Historically breweries used corn and rice because they were plentiful and available.  It's not a coincidence that almost all Asian beers are rice-based.  They're not using rice to dull down any flavors, they're using rice because it is ubiqtuitous.

It's possible that modern day home brewers and craft brewers are doing that, but historically corn and rice were used because they were cheap and plentiful.
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