~2020 NFL Season Thread~

[betarhoalphadelta]

Yeah, the Mahomes / Reid matchup is dynamite, as long as they can keep the cap space to keep paying the supporting cast on O--and at least a competent defense. 

The Pats did it by a very moneyball approach rather than loading up on stars, which allowed them to maximize their cap to have talent across the roster. Ditch a guy when they get a little too old or a little too expensive, find someone wanting that guy as a trade, and get draft picks to bring in new cheap talent and keep the pipeline full.

Can KC manage the roster as well as the Pats? If so, that's my money for a potential dynasty. Mahomes has the talent, Reid's a great coach, and you can build around that partnership. 

[MrNubbz]

I'd go with the Chiefs

that's another reason I'm rooting again em

If the Bills don't win it all then the Pack,simply because KC should be back in the forseeable future.And Rodgers not so much

[ELA]

Yeah, the Mahomes / Reid matchup is dynamite, as long as they can keep the cap space to keep paying the supporting cast on O--and at least a competent defense.

The Pats did it by a very moneyball approach rather than loading up on stars, which allowed them to maximize their cap to have talent across the roster. Ditch a guy when they get a little too old or a little too expensive, find someone wanting that guy as a trade, and get draft picks to bring in new cheap talent and keep the pipeline full.

Can KC manage the roster as well as the Pats? If so, that's my money for a potential dynasty. Mahomes has the talent, Reid's a great coach, and you can build around that partnership.

They also benefited from the old CBA where the top draft picks (which they never had) ate up so much money, and Brady always accepting less than market value

[Brutus Buckeye]

Haskins to the Squealers... 

[Mdot21]

Haskins to the Squealers...

He might actually be able to turn his career around there. 

[Brutus Buckeye]

Oh man, that would be the most aggravating scenario imaginable! 

Haskins punting the Browns and Bengals collective heads over the Moon for the next ten years or so, just like Big Ben? 

[rook119]

Who is most likely going to be the next Patriots?  I know the obvious answer is "no one," but if you had to chose the next dominant franchise for the next 10-15 years, who would you say it was?  The Chiefs?  Brady will eventually be gone, Brees, too.  The Rams?  Roethelisberger will be gone.  The Browns?  Is that insanity? 

What do you guys think?  I don't know enough about it.

I used to say DeShaun Watson will single handedly drag your 6-10 team to 10-6. While I think Watson is great, Mahomes is better and has good offensive talent everywhere plus a great coach. 

It'll be 10-13 wins for them for at least the next 5-6 years minimum. 

[rook119]

Where does Championship Sunday rank amongst your favorite days for sports?  It’s up there for me.  It isn’t the first two days of March Madness but it might be second.  Second used to be January 1 bowl games but that isn’t quite the same anymore.  Championship Sunday is above Super Bowl Sunday, though.  At least for me.

Divisionals to me are the best week of Shield football however championship sunday is much much better than the SB. 

[MrNubbz]

Oh man, that would be the most aggravating scenario imaginable!

Haskins punting the Browns and Bengals collective heads over the Moon for the next ten years or so, just like Big Ben?

The worm is turning - screw the squeelers

[Mdot21]

Reports are that Mahomes has been practicing. If he plays- think that's an automatic W for the Chiefs.

Bucs vs Packers is the far more interesting game to me. Both based on match-ups and narrative. Could honestly see it going either way. Packers base a lot of that offense off the run game and working the play-action passes off the run game. Well, Tampa just happens to have the best run defense in the NFL and their monster interior DL Vita Vea has come off IR last week and could see snaps in this game. Anything they get out of Vita Vea could just make that run defense even better- which in turn could hurt the Green Bay passing offense- which in turn is heavily predicated on hitting long play-action passes- which in turn really only work when the run game is clicking. 

I think I like Tampa, but it's a coin flip. Rodgers is playing at a super high level all-season, but so has Brady the last month of the season. Being at home in the cold in Lambeau certainly helps the Packers, but Tampa just has more talent on the roster 1-53, in my opinion. Tampa has better RB's, they have better WR's, they have better TE's, they have better DL's- and they are getting Vita  Vea back, they have better LB's. And while I think Green Bay definitely has far better CB's- I think it's basically a wash at safety. Green Bay has a better OL when healthy- but their best OL by far Bakhtiari is out- and Tampa's OL has actually kicked it into high gear the last month of the season- especially the rookie tackle Tristan Wirfs- neutralizing arguably two of the best 5 defensive fronts in the entire NFL in Washington and then New Orleans. Green Bay's defense has improved over the season- but it is nowhere near the level of those defenses- not even close. 

[Abba]

I like Brady and I think he has played very well this year.  Rodgers is definitely a notch better.  This is probably his best year as a pro. 


Last week I liked the Bucs as Brady was a much better QB than broken down Brees, even though the Saints had the better overall team.  This week I like the Packers for the same reason in addition to the best home field advantage in football.  That is somewhat neutralized by Brady being a seasoned cold weather QB.  I could see any result, but I'm leaning slightly to the Packers.

[WhiskeyM]

The Pats did it by a very moneyball approach rather than loading up on stars, which allowed them to maximize their cap to have talent across the roster. Ditch a guy when they get a little too old or a little too expensive, find someone wanting that guy as a trade, and get draft picks to bring in new cheap talent and keep the pipeline full.

That's what ended up killing the Pats.  Their draft pics were busts.

[Mdot21]

I like Brady and I think he has played very well this year.  Rodgers is definitely a notch better.  This is probably his best year as a pro. 


Last week I liked the Bucs as Brady was a much better QB than broken down Brees, even though the Saints had the better overall team.  This week I like the Packers for the same reason in addition to the best home field advantage in football.  That is somewhat neutralized by Brady being a seasoned cold weather QB.  I could see any result, but I'm leaning slightly to the Packers.

Rodgers is definitely a more talented, more well-rounded QB that can hurt you by picking up first downs with his legs on the scramble and also extending plays and throwing accurate darts while on the move. Brady ain't picking up first downs with his legs, and he can't throw accurate darts on the run across his body without his feet being set like Rodgers. Rodgers is far more talented. He's always been that. What has separated Brady from Rodgers are Brady's intangibles, leadership, killer instinct, his will, his ability to read and manipulate defenses and get in and out of plays at the line of scrimmage- really only guy who did that at a level better than Brady was Peyton- and also his ability to perform at the absolute highest level in the clutch, under pressure in tough situations in the biggest games. The man has 6 Super Bowl championships with 6 game winning drives in the 4th QTR/OT. That is impossibly great.

Rodgers to me is like LeBron, whereas Brady is like Jordan. LeBron clearly more talented, more well-rounded, more of a physical specimen than Jordan, BUT he's simply just not as good as Jordan when the money is on the table and the game is on the line. Brady is the only guy in sports I would never bet against. He just finds a way to win, somehow some way, time after time, after time.

I don't think the gulf between Rodgers' play this year and especially down the stretch- vs. Brady's play was nearly as big as the gulf between Brady vs. Brees. Brees was in physical deterioration all year even before his injury- and in the playoff game he had been still recovering from a collapsed lung and like 8 broken ribs- he still wasn't 100%- and even before that injury he couldn't push the ball more than 20 yards down the field. Brady meanwhile had been bombs away all year under Bruce Arians' system and lead the league in deep throws and was 3rd in the NFL in passing yards and tied for 2nd in the NFL in passing TD's. And while Brady only had around 200 yards passing and 2 TD's in that Saints game- there were 3 deep balls dropped by his receivers- two of which should've went for TD's- two deep shots to Gronkowski- which Gronk should've absolutely had both of them- including one in the end-zone that should've been caught for the TD- and then another deep shot to Godwin in the end-zone that should've been caught for a TD. I don't think Brady got enough credit for his play that game- he's 21 of 33 and throws for around 300 and 4 TD passes and 1 TD run against one of the best defenses in the league if Gronk and Godwin just catch the damn ball like you'd expect elite level players at those positions too.

I can absolutely see it going either way, and that's solely because it's at home for Green Bay and the weather is going to absolutely suck. Brady is the greatest cold weather QB ever- but the rest of that team isn't used to playing in anything but 80 degrees and sunshine. I like Tampa, simply because they just have more talent top to bottom and they have the greatest post-season big game performer ever at QB- but I'm giving Green Bay a real good shot because it's at home in the cold and Rodgers is a truly great QB.

[Mdot21]

That's what ended up killing the Pats.  Their draft pics were busts.

Bill Belichik is one of the greatest coaches ever. No doubt about that. But he's also one of the worst GM's/Drafter of players ever. In 25+ years as a head coach in NE and Cleveland- his track record drafting absolutely sucks. Aside from Brady falling out of heaven in the 6th round- which is the luckiest draft pick of all-time- and stealing Gronkowski in the 2nd round because of the rash of injuries Gronk suffered in college causing him to fall out of the 1st- his drafting in New England has been absolute ass.

If Belichik had been just coaching- and they had someone with a real eye for talent drafting players- who knows how good that dynasty might've been. That's the scary part. 

Jimmy Johnson and Bill Walsh will always be better overall GM/coaches imo. Simply because their eye for talent was just vastly superior to Belichik's. In terms of X's and O's and scheming things up- Belichik is one of the of the best ever for sure. No doubt about it. He absolutely sucks as a GM though.