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The refs missing a call that would have benefited the Lions, then the Lions player getting ejected for demonstrating what the Bears player did...BY DOING IT ON THE REF, is about the most Lions sequence ever.
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First ever game for the Las Vegas Raiders is rather close.
Panthers take a 12-10 lead.
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T.J. Hockenson in season openers should be a DFS lock at this point
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Trubisky looks not awful once the top three cornerbacks on the other team are all out.
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Trubisky looks not awful once the top three cornerbacks on the other team are all out.
its almost like the Bears could have had cam for a little more than 1M a season. He's got 210 w/ no turnovers and 2TDs playing w/ absolute chum on offense
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Oh Mitchell.
You take a 27 yard loss against an already lousy defense, down its top three cornerbacks?
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Browns....well they're Browning
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LOL is 72 year old Peterson the best RB that Stafford has ever had?
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Lions blew 8 4th quarter leads last year, and they are right there again this year
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Today is the day D'Andre Swift became a Lion.
Why is he even in the game late?
Dropped a screen pass to stop the clock.
Caught a screen pass, and instead of running out of bounds, fought for maybe 1 extra yard and forced them to burn their final timeout with 34 seconds left.
Then dropped a wide open touchdown pass with 5 seconds left that would have won the game.
The corpse of Adrian Peterson is still miles better than this asshat
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https://twitter.com/freep/status/1183954945248288768?s=19
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Them piping crowd noise into the broadcast annoys me.
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1305311729618792448?s=20
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https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1305313620377645063?s=19
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I'd rather watch players kneel during the anthem than see Zeke's abs
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The Rams ruined great uniforms
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I'd rather watch players kneel during the anthem than see Zeke's abs
That tat isn't gonna age well.
One day he will be a middle aged man with a bloated feed me tattoo upon his spare tire.
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can't come soon enough for me, unless he's traded to a decent team
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Place looks like Jerry World with a different colored roof. And the bored 8th grader in study hall Ram drawing at midfield.
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The Rams ruined great uniforms
The old White/blue combo is best IMO
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The Cleveland Rams were the first team to ever wear a helmet decal.
The Cleveland Browns are the final holdout.
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If you're an Eagles fan what the heck happened yesterday? Wentz was throwing all over Washington's secondary until halftime. Up 17-0. The only potential worse loss is if the Steelers blow it to the Giants tonight. Washington and the Giants are bottom five teams this season.
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Curiosity...
Why does the NFL not start games until 1 ET while CFB starts games at Noon ET?
Is it because it's Sunday and a legacy holdover from some of the blue laws not allowing alcohol sales until 12:30 "so everyone is out of church first", or is it just something unique to the sport with no explanation?
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Curiosity...
Why does the NFL not start games until 1 ET while CFB starts games at Noon ET?
Is it because it's Sunday and a legacy holdover from some of the blue laws not allowing alcohol sales until 12:30 "so everyone is out of church first", or is it just something unique to the sport with no explanation?
College football used to always start at 1 too, as more games were televised, they discovered they could cram more in if they started a little earlier.
As far as NFL goes, my guess is that they don't want to start games before noon local time, so starting at 1 allows them to put any games played in two time zones in the early window, as opposed to just 1.
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Probably has to do with Church goers to some degree as well.
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Curiosity...
Why does the NFL not start games until 1 ET while CFB starts games at Noon ET?
Is it because it's Sunday and a legacy holdover from some of the blue laws not allowing alcohol sales until 12:30 "so everyone is out of church first", or is it just something unique to the sport with no explanation?
I’ve always assumed it was so people could get home from church.
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College football used to always start at 1 too, as more games were televised, they discovered they could cram more in if they started a little earlier.
As far as NFL goes, my guess is that they don't want to start games before noon local time, so starting at 1 allows them to put any games played in two time zones in the early window, as opposed to just 1.
Yep. When I was a kid WVU routinely started at 1:00
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Back in the primordial ooze era of college football, all games started at 1:30 PM during daylight savings time and 1 PM during standard time.
As for the Vikings, if there was any doubt that their Super Bowl window has closed, yesterday was it. Letting old man Rodgers slice up the supposedly rebuilt secondary was pathetic.
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Weird to hear Herbie and Fowler calling MNF. Not bad weird, but weird nonetheless.
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Herbie is a big Bungles fan, so it will be interesting to see how well he can contain his anti-Squealer bias.
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Herbie is a big Bungles fan, so it will be interesting to see how well he can contain his anti-Squealer bias.
I dunno... A lot of OSU fans consider him an anti homer when calling Buckeye games, so he might just overcorrect :57:
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Herbie is a big Bungles fan, so it will be interesting to see how well he can contain his anti-Squealer bias.
well, the steelers do suck
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It's amazing how low the MNF bar has been set that two simply competent individuals after the shit show since the end of Michaels-Madden, is enough to make NFL fans lose their mind. Fowler and Herbie are good, better on Gameday than in the booth IMO, but I don't recall any college football fans raving.
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It's amazing how low the MNF bar has been set that two simply competent individuals after the shit show since the end of Michaels-Madden, is enough to make NFL fans lose their mind. Fowler and Herbie are good, better on Gameday than in the booth IMO, but I don't recall any college football fans raving.
I turned on the game and ten minutes in thought this was probably the best MNF announce crew in a few years
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My eldest (just turned 13, now in 7th grade) joined the "Fantasy Football" club at his school. He knows next to nothing about real football--i.e. asked me what a tight end is this weekend--and even less about fantasy football. So it's been hilarious.
He was introduced to the game of fantasy football by losing his first ever matchup by only 1.5 pts.
Welcome to the pain, boy.
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Ah, fantasy football. Haven’t played in many years but I remember Sunday evenings being glued to ESPN.com tracking Cardinals blowouts.
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I turned on the game and ten minutes in thought this was probably the best MNF announce crew in a few years
this. I'd be all for Herbie and Fowler calling MNF permanently. They were by far better than any of the trash that ESPN has been putting out for MNF for years.
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this. I'd be all for Herbie and Fowler calling MNF permanently. They were by far better than any of the trash that ESPN has been putting out for MNF for years.
The problem is the prep work necessary. They didn't call a game this past weekend, so they could do it. But I don't think you could prep for a (presumably) major Saturday night game, and turn around and do the NFL showcase game 48 hours later.
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not those 2, kinda slow
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Yeah, let Tessitore stick w nfl, don't want him anywhere near the wide hashmarks and striped footballs.
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Yeah, let Tessitore stick w nfl, don't want him anywhere near the wide hashmarks and striped footballs.
Yup, the one good thing was that asshat being done with college football
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yet that bozo was working a college game this past weekend.
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Some Clowns/Bungles action?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiE3f9VXgAUcWMA?format=jpg&name=medium)
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I actually feel bad for Burrow. He played his ass off in the 2nd half to get the Bengals back in that game. Threw the game winning TD to AJ Green with 8 seconds left in the game only to get it negated by penalty. Then the kicker shanks an easy FG to force OT wayyyyy the F to the right.
If that wasn't a "welcome to the Bengals rookie" moment, don't know what is.
(https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/83171437_3050798281633506_5069643035281719296_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=PtLUBpIVY8sAX8qRLLu&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=3578cfa429fbeda12a6205fb5cefb511&oe=5F87BC63)
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I am more nostalgic for this match up than any other in the NFL. There is just something inherently beautiful about these two helmets clashing together. No matter how bad they've both sucked over the last thirty years, it always conjures up childhood memories of Bernie Kosar vs Boomer Esiasan, Eric Metcalf vs Icky Woods... I think I am gonna have to fire up some Tecmo Super Bowl after this.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/zgRIFBUBhNwKlU4I_l-lNGnm33Y=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4228781/1.0.jpg)
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READY....down...hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut....
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I actually feel bad for Burrow. He played his ass off in the 2nd half to get the Bengals back in that game. Threw the game winning TD to AJ Green with 8 seconds left in the game only to get it negated by penalty. Then the kicker shanks an easy FG to force OT wayyyyy the F to the right.
If that wasn't a "welcome to the Bengals rookie" moment, don't know what is.
(https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/83171437_3050798281633506_5069643035281719296_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=PtLUBpIVY8sAX8qRLLu&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=3578cfa429fbeda12a6205fb5cefb511&oe=5F87BC63)
Lmao
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I actually feel bad for Burrow. He played his ass off in the 2nd half to get the Bengals back in that game. Threw the game winning TD to AJ Green with 8 seconds left in the game only to get it negated by penalty. Then the kicker shanks an easy FG to force OT wayyyyy the F to the right.
Ya know a few years back the Bengals didmembered the Browns on thursday night football - I'll take it.It's usually the stuff that happens the BROWNS,wish JB luck moving forward
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Cam Newton now with as many rush TDs as OJ Simpson and Herschel Walker.😳
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Patriots beefed it.
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Patriots beefed it.
they should have never run the block zero
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I was think that Burrow had huge bust potential. It just seemed like a perfect storm. Moving from an offense that was just incredible to a top to bottom bad organization w/ a coach fresh out of high school and a terrible OL.
However I've been pretty impressed. sure a lot of it are checkdowns but that's all he has time to do and he's not turning the ball over. You want to sling it downfield w/ a bad OL and an inexperienced QB, you get Sam Darnold.
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Who had it worse yesterday?
- Lions Matt Fatricia blowing another lead; 9-24 w/ Lions, another failed Belichick protege
- Jets Adam Gase trounced at home by injury depleted 49ers
- Vikings Kirk Cousins 11-26 113 yds passing 3 Ints 15.9 rating
- Falcons somehow blowing late lead to Cowboys
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According to ESPN stats and info teams that had scored at least 39 points and committed no turnovers were 444-0 dating back to 1933 entering yesterday’s games.
After the Falcons-Cowboys game they are 444-1.
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According to ESPN stats and info teams that had scored at least 39 points and committed no turnovers were 444-0 dating back to 1933 entering yesterday’s games.
After the Falcons-Cowboys game they are 444-1.
the Falcons supposedly had a 99.9% chance of winning w/ a few minutes left. which just proves that winning precentages are bunk. The Falcons never have a 99.9% chance of ever blowing a lead.
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Who had it worse yesterday?
- Lions Matt Fatricia blowing another lead; 9-24 w/ Lions, another failed Belichick protege
- Jets Adam Gase trounced at home by injury depleted 49ers
- Vikings Kirk Cousins 11-26 113 yds passing 3 Ints 15.9 rating
- Falcons somehow blowing late lead to Cowboys
I've seen some bad coaches but Patricia and Gase just appear to be in another league.
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According to ESPN stats and info teams that had scored at least 39 points and committed no turnovers were 444-0 dating back to 1933 entering yesterday’s games.
After the Falcons-Cowboys game they are 444-1.
the Falcons committed the grave error of going for 2 when they should have just taken the point early in the game when they were way ahead
karma doesnt like that
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Who had it worse yesterday?
- Lions Matt Fatricia blowing another lead; 9-24 w/ Lions, another failed Belichick protege
- Jets Adam Gase trounced at home by injury depleted 49ers
- Vikings Kirk Cousins 11-26 113 yds passing 3 Ints 15.9 rating
- Falcons somehow blowing late lead to Cowboys
Cousins
I haven't watched the game yet, but it's a good guess
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Vikings are done. Their Super Bowl window, if it was ever open, is closed. Go into full rebuild mode.
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Vikings are done. Their Super Bowl window, if it was ever open, is closed. Go into full rebuild mode.
coach has got a plan tho!
Mike Zimmer on what he's told his team: "We can’t start winning until we stop losing."
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I like Zimmer. I'd give him the chance to get it done.
the deal for Cousins certainly wasn't his idea
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It's kind of funny to hear the mediots celebrate a moral victory for the New England freaking Patriots.
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Vegas hosts its first game tonight.
(https://a.espncdn.com/photo/2020/0912/r744363_608x342_16-9.jpg)
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Lots of injuries this weekend,heard Hooker and Barkley are both done for the year
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The Raiders take down the Ain'ts. 2-0 start.
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Turned on that game for a couple of snaps - that stadium is so not the Raiders.Smacks of plastic and out of place like a COVID unit.With the price of tickets I imagine the crowd sizes won't change much either
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According to ESPN stats and info teams that had scored at least 39 points and committed no turnovers were 444-0 dating back to 1933 entering yesterday’s games.
After the Falcons-Cowboys game they are 444-1.
(https://i.imgur.com/w7PEtjK.jpg)
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Cousins
I haven't watched the game yet, but it's a good guess
Yeah, has to be Cousins.
Patricia and Gase are already both dead men walking; and the Falcons are already the owner of the most famous gag in major sports championship history, what's a Week 2 choke compared to a Super Bowl choke?
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This is one way to take the crown back from Brady
https://twitter.com/Rob_Lowder/status/1310235991358144513?s=19
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That bitch should be caned
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could we replace the winner of the NFC east w/ the 4th place team in the NFC west this year?
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the Browns have a winning record for the first time since Brian Hoyer was the QB.
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(https://i.imgur.com/w7PEtjK.jpg)
And, they did it again. Outstanding
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The Bengals tied the Eagles.
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Eagles play for the tie. Not going to knock it. Penderson knows the 1st team to 5 1/2 wins goes to the playoffs.
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Just a beautiful pass from Stafford there.
/lions flagged for holding
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Eagles play for the tie. Not going to knock it. Penderson knows the 1st team to 5 1/2 wins goes to the playoffs.
The Eagles also tied the Bengals that time that Mike Vick admitted that he didn't know the OT rules after the game.
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The Lions choked again...but somehow it worked out.
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the Browns have a winning record for the first time since Brian Hoyer was the QB.
You just had to put the whammy on them.didn't you?
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For all the talk of how franchises like the Patriots, Steelers, and Packers remain so consistently successful, how about those who are so inexcusably awful? Last year I thought the usual bottom-outs were as bad as we'd get but three Sundays in and I don't think I've seen an NFL cellar this hopeless: Vikings, Texans, Bengals, Broncos, Washington, Lions, Falcons, Eagles (pretty much the whole NFC East) and worst of all the Giants and Jets! Very divided NFL so far.
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https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1310778175954341888?s=19
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(https://i.imgur.com/QaFadtz.png)
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Steelers/Titans postponed and won't be played this weekend.
Hence why I stayed the hell away from fantasy football this year.
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The NFL implemented a series of enhanced protocols Thursday for teams to follow after exposure to the COVID-19 virus, as it navigates an outbreak among the Tennessee Titans and potential transmission to the Minnesota Vikings.
The Vikings, who have not yet returned a positive test result after playing the Titans last Sunday, used the protocols after reopening their facility and practicing Thursday.
The enhanced protocols include two daily tests; one is the traditional PCR (nasal swab) test and the other is a POC (point of care) test that returns faster results. All Tier 1 and Tier 2 employees must test negative on the POC test before entering the facility.
PPE and face masks must also be worn by all players and coaches on the practice field and gloves must be worn by everyone except quarterbacks on their throwing hand. All meetings must be virtual and there will also be daily deep cleanings of the facility. The protocols also include a prohibition on team or player gatherings away from the facility.
NFL chief medical officer Allen Sills will determine whether and for how long the post-exposure protocols must be followed. Whether they are exposed or not, all NFL employees were urged by the memo to "act as if every person you come into contact with has a COVID infection and take appropriate precautions."
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Steelers/Titans postponed and won't be played this weekend.
Hence why I stayed the hell away from fantasy football this year.
I mean I'm in a college fantasy league, so, that's been a blast. Over 1/3 of my roster last week was QBs, just to get a full lineup of guys actually playing
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(https://i.imgur.com/QaFadtz.png)
Steelers and Bucs front 7's are both nasty as hell. Probably two best I've seen so far through 3 weeks. I think that just might be the Super Bowl match-up this year.
KC obviously the favorite in the AFC, and GB or Seattle probably the favorite in NFC, but none of those teams have shown much in the way of defense. Their MO seems to be let's just out-score everyone.
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If it ain't broke......
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Can Newton out for tomorrow's game vs KC as he has tested positive for COVID.
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Can Newton out for tomorrow's game vs KC as he has tested positive for COVID.
Not gonna be a game.
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Steelers and Bucs front 7's are both nasty as hell. Probably two best I've seen so far through 3 weeks. I think that just might be the Super Bowl match-up this year.
KC obviously the favorite in the AFC, and GB or Seattle probably the favorite in NFC, but none of those teams have shown much in the way of defense. Their MO seems to be let's just out-score everyone.
I don't like T.J. Watt (better dead than red)....but his interception against the Giants was an unbelievably good play. Super impressive.
On a side note.....former Gopher great.....Antoine Winfield Jr. was named the defensive rookie of the month. There have to be quite a few teams kicking themselves for passing on him.
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Bruce Arians is a bad coach. How did he ever get this rep as some great coach? He’s awful.
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It will be interesting to see how the Browns will manage to give this one away.
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It will be interesting to see how the Browns will manage to give this one away.
Cowboys will fall just short. It’s what they do.
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It will be interesting to see how the Browns will manage to give this one away.
They just tried again The Boys have 3 T.O.s.Freaking DB on that TD not wrapping up at the 3,should get a hefty fine
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jeebis a 3 & out
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How does Matt Patricia still have a job? There have only been 4 games this season. Lions lose 3 games when they held double digit leads in all those losses. Lmao. Up 17, 11, and 14. Lost them all.
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Cowboys will fall just short. It’s what they do.
Told ya. Lol.
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With Washington and Dallas getting run off the field, NY Giants already losing to the Rams, and Philly kicking off a road game Vs San Francisco later does the NFC East win a game today? This month? The division is looking at finishing Week 4 with only two(!) wins. Can’t remember a division off to a worse start.
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Told ya. Lol.
We had it in the bag all along - "Break Up the Browns"
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The division is looking at finishing Week 4 with only two(!) wins. Can’t remember a division off to a worse start.
Well if the league would start paying the lads a decent wage they might see some results
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IF the Lions ownership has any brains, they'd announce the firing of Patricia and Quinn effectively immediately and tank the season to secure a top 3 pick. #TankforTrevor.
Draft Trevor Lawrence, trade Stafford to a team that is a QB away (Colts maybe) and rebuild and move on.
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Last night's 49ers Vs Eagles broadcast was enjoyably informative. Due to injuries both teams fielded an unusually high number of new and unfamiliar players. Especially the Eagles. And Cris Collinsworth did an outstanding job of getting the viewers up to speed on the background of each unfamiliar player. Eagles OL Jordan Mailata drafted out of the Australian Rugby League. WR Travis Fulgham from Old Dominion. LB Alex Singleton signed from the Calgary Stampeders; played college ball at Montana State.
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Draft Trevor Lawrence, trade Stafford to a team that is a QB away (Colts maybe) and rebuild and move on.
$35 million cap hit next year makes him damn near untradeable
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$35 million cap hit next year makes him damn near untradeable
Yikes. No wonder why they suck. Can’t give a QB $35 million and build a contender.
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Yikes. No wonder why they suck. Can’t give a QB $35 million and build a contender.
I think they restructured a couple years back and deferred some of his salary to the back end to save some up front.
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Lions need to fire and clean house and just cut Stafford if they can’t trade him.
They aren’t going anywhere. Ever. In the next 3-5 years. Might as well just gut and rebuild.
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I think they restructured a couple years back and deferred some of his salary to the back end to save some up front.
I heard 15 million this season
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ESPN has to be pissed about this NE/KC postponement. Given the start times, there will be a 1.5-2 hour overlap between that game on CBS and the Falcons/Packers game on ESPN.
NE/KC matches up a 2-1 team that everyone wants to see what they look like without Cam Newton against the Cirque du Soleil aerial assault of Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Atl/GB matches up a terrible 0-3 team that is only remarkable for how badly they choke games away vs a team that just wins with boring-ass Aaron Rodgers.
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I think people forget MNF was once a fixture at 9pm est.
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The Houston Texans (https://www.foxnews.com/category/sports/nfl/houston-texans) on Monday fired Bill O’Brien after the team started the 2020 season with four straight losses.
O’Brien was the team’s head coach and general manager.
The really great thing is he didn't leave them a 1st or 2nd round pick either
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If I would have said Dak Prescott is going to throw for over 500 yds,Baker Mayfield was going to throw for 165 and Nick Chubb would only have 6 carries in a Cleveland win - you would have called the guys in white suits with the nets on me.Not that you already haven't
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you would have called the guys in white suits with the nets on me.Not that you already haven't
I just don't have your address :57:
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ESPN has to be pissed about this NE/KC postponement. Given the start times, there will be a 1.5-2 hour overlap between that game on CBS and the Falcons/Packers game on ESPN.
gee, that's too bad
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I just don't have your address :57:
Oh we've met someone else does
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Interested to see if anything happens with covid cases after that game. Not sure that anyone exposed to Cam would have tested positive yet, but wonder if there might have been contagious players who were asymptomatic...
Gonna be interesting...
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interesting that the Titans had 18 positive tests, the Vikings had zero
maybe the Titans were infected postgame?
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I'm sure if both squads got tested again those numbers would be all over the place - I've seen this horshit 1st hand
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I think they get tested daily
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Maybe different kits or some one isn't following protocol
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maybe you got deep in the Oktoberfest?
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I don't have the CORONA 😎
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neither do the Vikings!
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For the time being,I stay
hammered inoculated
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have you watched the Viking's defense??
gotta be on the dope
and Capt Kirk Cousins??? that's more than alcohol
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have you watched the Viking's defense??
gotta be on the dope
and Capt Kirk Cousins??? that's more than alcohol
Don't tell me about your travails,I'm a Browns Fan
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hah, y'all just throttled the Cowboys
It don't get no better
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hah, y'all just throttled the Cowboys
It don't get no better
Yes it could, throttling Pittsburgh or Baltimore.
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I think a week or two shut down, followed by some sort of bubble is coming at this rate.
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I can only assume the Titans can't play this weekend either, right?
Patriots have to be questioning whether they can play this weekend too, right?
I don't know what'll happen with the Chiefs, but the Newton positive should have been seen as a potential vector of spread, and what I was worried about was that his contact with the rest of the organization would result in a spike on both teams after the game.
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How the hell are the Bears 4-1?
Nick Foles is the biggest enigma in sports. He basically sucks ass 24/7 unless he’s playing prime time against Tom Brady. Then he’s...Tom Brady.
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How the hell are the Bears 4-1?
Nick Foles is the biggest enigma in sports. He basically sucks ass 24/7 unless he’s playing prime time against Tom Brady. Then he’s...Tom Brady.
Well, Tom Brady is getting a little senile and can't count to 4 any more...
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Well, Tom Brady is getting a little senile and can't count to 4 any more...
Yeah that was a real Joe Biden moment right there. Hard to believe Brady had a brain fart like that in that situation.
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Eh, it's not like he spiked the ball, like the Lions did in their playoff game against the buccaneers, or Rutgers did against Michigan State a couple years ago. He thought there was another play, but I'm not sure it actually changed anything.
The main issue is just that he and Gronk are both too old. Hell, most guys hung it up with far less wear and tear on their bodies than those two have. He and Brees have it in flashes, but there's a reason there aren't 40+ year old players in the league with regularity.
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Eh, it's not like he spiked the ball, like the Lions did in their playoff game against the buccaneers, or Rutgers did against Michigan State a couple years ago. He thought there was another play, but I'm not sure it actually changed anything.
The main issue is just that he and Gronk are both too old. Hell, most guys hung it up with far less wear and tear on their bodies than those two have. He and Brees have it in flashes, but there's a reason there aren't 40+ year old players in the league with regularity.
I didn’t see anything from Brady that suggests he doesn’t have it anymore. Gronk is washed for sure. His body is a broken down shell. Brees is washed too- his arm is just gone. Brady’s arm still looks about the same as it ever has to me. And he can still zip it when he needs too.
Bucs lost that game for two reasons: (1) Bruce Arians is a shitty head coach that can’t make in-game adjustments on the fly- like oh I don’t know- double team Khalil Mack maybe since he single handedly wrecked every drive you had- and Arians is also a sloppy undisciplined guy that has a sloppy undisciplined team that loves to get penalized and make mistakes and (2) the Bucs secondary is absolute trash. As nice as their front is- and it’s among the best in the league- their secondary might be among the worst in the league. Little Nicky had guys running wide open all game and the Bears’ receivers honestly suck.
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is Khalil Mack the most underrated player in the NFL?
I feel like he doesn’t get the love that Aaron Donald or Von Miller get and he’s every bit the player they are.
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Tom Brady was all kinds of pissy last night. Yelling at his lineman on the sideline, arguing the down count with the refs, fuming off and leaving Foles looking around for his obligatory postgame QB greeting. An all around bad look.
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Tom Brady was all kinds of pissy last night. Yelling at his lineman on the sideline, arguing the down count with the refs, fuming off and leaving Foles looking around for his obligatory postgame QB greeting. An all around bad look.
Foles handled that with class though. When asked about it postgame he talked about how everyone is trying to be cognizant of distancing... When anyone who watched could tell that Brady was pissy.
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Foles handled that with class though. When asked about it postgame he talked about how everyone is trying to be cognizant of distancing... When anyone who watched could tell that Brady was pissy.
Brady is the ultimate sore loser.
He’s done far more winning than losing, but it still pisses him off to his core every time he loses. Greatest team sport player in history of American sports.
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Yeah that was a real Joe Biden moment right there. :s_laugh: Hard to believe Brady had a brain fart like that in that situation.
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Brady is the ultimate sore loser.
He’s done far more winning than losing, but it still pisses him off to his core every time he loses. Greatest team sport player in history of American sports.
He's certainly in that discussion but he can't be the G.O.A.T. of everthing
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is Khalil Mack the most underrated player in the NFL?
Based on the last contract I wouldn't think so
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Based on the last contract I wouldn't think so
True. But he doesn’t seem to get the respect in the media that Donald or Miller get. And I’d argue that Mack is better than either of them.
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He belongs in that group for sure
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True. But he doesn’t seem to get the respect in the media that Donald or Miller get. And I’d argue that Mack is better than either of them.
I'd put him below Donald, but above Miller
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I'd put him below Donald, but above Miller
I think he’s more valuable than Donald because he’s an edge rusher and it’s a passing league. Edge rusher is just more valuable than a nose tackle ever could be just by the simple fact that he can rush the passer far more frequently and affect the passing game far more.
I’ve never seen Donald completely disrupt an entire passing offense by putting non-stop pressure on the edge like I’ve seen Mack do. And Mack has done it on several prime time games where he’s just lived in the backfield and disrupted the passing game all game long.
Mack is also the only player to be named All-NFL at two different positions in the same season- LB and DE.
If I have to pick one, I’m picking Mack.
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Is it just me, or does it seem like CFB, with larger rosters, more teams, and without large game checks on the line each week for players, is doing better regarding COVID than the NFL?
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Is it just me, or does it seem like CFB, with larger rosters, more teams, and without large game checks on the line each week for players, is doing better regarding COVID than the NFL?
Universities have more control of a roster of 100 college kids than NFL teams do of 53 millionaires grown men.
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I dunno a lot of college games have been moved. But colleges (well, some of them) realized that was going to happen and structured the schedules in a way that could accommodate that. I'm worried about the B1G plan
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Universities have more control of a roster of 100 college kids than NFL teams do of 53 millionaires grown men.
This
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Meanwhile crowds getting larger at games.
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Why would you make Alex Smith make his return against Aaron Donald?
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Lions drafted this guy last year,and waived him twice. Not that WR is the issue, but still
https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1315376136805928960?s=19
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Dak just snapped his ankle in half. That was grotesque.
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Dak Prescott out with a pretty gruesome looking injury
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I hope the cowboys lose this game.
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The Browns go 4-1 1st time since '94.Belichick was the HC and Saban was the DC and Ferentz was the O-Line Coach - break up the Browns,Woo-Hoo
(https://i.gifer.com/CxRU.gif)
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the end is nigh
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The Steelers are now 4-0 for the first time in 40 years, the longest such streak in the NFL. Bet you could have won some bar bets with that one.
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Pete Carroll sucks
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Pete Carroll sucks
The 49ers suck, throttled by the Dolphins 43-17
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Pete Carroll sucks
Crazy that he's now been with the Seahawks for 2 years longer than he was at USC
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he wasn't hasn't been caught cheating in seattle yet
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he wasn't hasn't been caught cheating in seattle yet
In fact the exact opposite. He gave away a Super Bowl by having Russell Wilson throw it from the 1 instead of hammering it in with the best running back in football.
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paying player's parents isn't illegal in the nfl
if he was smart he'd be filming practices or something illegal
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Wonder if he does his taxes - does that count
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The Steelers are now 4-0 for the first time in 40 years, the longest such streak in the NFL. Bet you could have won some bar bets with that one.
Yup,be nice if the tanked on the rest of them
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well at least Russell Wilson registered to vote
early!
smart guy
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The 49ers suck, throttled by the Dolphins 43-17
Jimmy G got benched. Maybe, just maybe, Jimmy G isn't that good? Which is what I've been saying for a few years now.
Jimmy G did absolutely nothing in the playoff run to the Super Bowl except hand the ball off to the RB 40 times a game, and then in the Super Bowl I think him shitting the bed in the 4th QTR should've opened peoples eyes up. 49ers had the very best defense in the entire league last year and they also were #2 in the NFL rushing. #1 defense + #2 rush offense typically = major success. That run game isn't quite as good as last year (ranks 6th right now) and that defense clearly isn't the same with Bosa Jr out for the entire season, Richard Sherman out until at least week 6, and DeForest Buckner traded to the Colts. Those are 3 high-impact players. All gone.
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The Browns go 4-1 1st time since '94.Belichick was the HC and Saban was the DC and Ferentz was the O-Line Coach - break up the Browns,Woo-Hoo
(https://i.gifer.com/CxRU.gif)
Browns have a crap load of talent. I don't think there is an NFL team with a better duo at the 3 major skill positions on offense.
WR - OBJ + Jarvis = #1 duo in NFL imo. Tampa is in the convo but Godwin hasn't played all year and Evans is hobbled right now.
RB - Chubb + Hunt = definitely in the convo.
TE - Nkoju + Hooper = Nkoju is back next week, and I thought it would be Tampa, but OJ Howard is out for year now and Gronk is completely washed.
Mayfield needs to be consistent and limit turnovers and the Browns will be a playoff team.
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The Steelers are now 4-0 for the first time in 40 years, the longest such streak in the NFL. Bet you could have won some bar bets with that one.
Steelers and Ravens are my picks in AFC to make it to Super Bowl. Kansas City defense looks worse this year vs last, and they made and won the SB by the skin of their teeth and it was because Mahomes got white hot in the playoffs. Players typically don't have those kind of runs back to back years. Rodgers had an incredible playoff run that one year when Green Bay won the SB- and they haven't been back since.
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Chargers sure know how to blow close games.
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Browns have a crap load of talent. I don't think there is an NFL team with a better duo at the 3 major skill positions on offense.
RB - Chubb + Hunt = definitely in the convo.
Unfortunately my favorite player on the team ripped his MCL evidently.He'e got talent and the right attitude,such a grinder who stays focused
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Unfortunately my favorite player on the team ripped his MCL evidently.He'e got talent and the right attitude,such a grinder who stays focused
Didn’t even realize that. That’s a huge blow. Chubb is an elite back imo.
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Unfortunately my favorite player on the team ripped his MCL evidently.He'e got talent and the right attitude,such a grinder who stays focused
Will be back after the bye. Not too worried about it. We will miss him, but should be ok for a short period.
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Jets aren't going to let Jacksonville coast into the Trevor Lawrence lottery
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1316179823467917314?s=19
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Jets aren't going to let Jacksonville coast into the Trevor Lawrence lottery
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1316179823467917314?s=19
Darnold was the #3 pick overall two years ago. He had a decent rookie season.
Gase is just an idiot. Astounds me that the Jets even hired him.
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Long ago I thought he'd be a solid replacement for Dantonio at MSU. He's an MSU alum, originally hired as a GA by Saban, and then followed him to LSU and Dolphins.
Thank god that never happened.
IIRC, he's an analytics guy, one of the first in football, and basically walked into Saban's office as a student, and pitched what he could offer. I think (a) it's a case of where he was first, but not best, and he's been lapped by guys who came in later but are far better; and (b) he's terrible dealing with players.
He has now run off their two biggest names, with nothing to show for it, and ruined a top 3 QB pick.
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He has now run off their two biggest names, with nothing to show for it, and ruined a top 3 QB pick.
Yeah, I wonder if Darnold and Josh Allen swapped places what their career trajectory would look like. My guess is Darnold would have similar success to what Allen is having and Allen would be labeled a total bust with the Jets.
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Yeah, I wonder if Darnold and Josh Allen swapped places what their career trajectory would look like. My guess is Darnold would have similar success to what Allen is having and Allen would be labeled a total bust with the Jets.
Early situation is huge deal for players, especially QBs. Look at Tannehill. Was complete trash in Miami on a trash team.
Now that he has good players and a good coach around him, he’s actually a pretty solid QB. Alex Smith is another one. Terrible for years in San Fran til Harbaugh got in there and rebuilt the team and culture.
Darnold needs to get the hell out of there and land at a good place, and I think his career will rebound. He’s definitely got the talent to play at a good level in the nfl.
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Saints talking about playing home games up in Baton Rouge so that fans can attend.
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democratic mayor in the Big Easy?
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democratic mayor in the Big Easy?
Yeah, but I'm not even sure that matters. Apparently no indoor stadium in the NFL has yet allowed fans... The few that have allowed fans are outdoor stadiums.
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an indoor stadium has many cubic feet of air, very few droplets of virus
but, I understand it
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Steelers and Ravens are my picks in AFC to make it to Super Bowl. Kansas City defense looks worse this year vs last, and they made and won the SB by the skin of their teeth and it was because Mahomes got white hot in the playoffs. Players typically don't have those kind of runs back to back years. Rodgers had an incredible playoff run that one year when Green Bay won the SB- and they haven't been back since.
IMHO, neither the Browns nor the Steelers are as good as their respective records. Last week a lot of Browns fans in this area were pointing out that Pittsburgh was 3-0 against three teams that were a combined 0-9. Then on Sunday the Steelers finally beat a team with a win (Philly, 1-3-1) and two of their previous victims (Denver and Houston) got wins so now I'm hearing that they are 4-0 but their opponents are a combined 3-15-1 which is both true and pathetic.
As a Browns "fan", I'd love to gloat about that but the Browns SoS isn't significantly better except for the fact that the the Browns played Baltimore. That might be impressive if the Browns had beaten or at least been competitive with the Ravens but they weren't. The Browns got run off the field by the Ravens (38-6). The Browns five opponents are 11-13-1 which isn't bad and a lot better than Pittsburgh's opponents but the four teams that Cleveland has defeated are a combined 7-12-1 which is only marginally better than Pittsburgh's victims' 3-15-1.
So the Browns and Steelers have eight combined wins. Here they are sorted by record of opponent:
- Cleveland beat 3-2 Indy by 9
- Cleveland beat 2-3 Dallas by 11
- Pittsburgh beat 1-3-1 Philly by 9
- Cleveland beat 1-3-1 Cincy by 5
- Pittsburgh beat 1-3 Denver by 5
- Cleveland beat 1-4 Washington by 14
- Pittsburgh beat 0-5 NYG by 10
The concerning thing is that not only are their eight victims basically terrible but neither Cleveland nor Pittsburgh has been lighting these bad opponents up either. The biggest MOV by either team was Cleveland's two TD win over Washington. By way of comparison, here are Baltimore's games:
- Beat 4-1 Cleveland by 32
- Lost to 4-1 KC by 14
- Beat 1-3-1 Cincy by 24
- Beat 1-4 Houston by 17
- Beat 1-4 Washington by 14
Those are vastly better results than anything either the Browns or Steelers can point to.
That said, I do think there is a decent chance that the Browns could be a playoff team this year. Here are all of their opponents sorted by current record:
(https://i.imgur.com/PmPfGOq.png)
If the Browns beat the teams that are 3-2 and worse (as they have done so far) that would get them to 11-5 with two losses each to Baltimore and Pittsburgh and the fifth loss being to Tennessee. 11-5 is almost a sure thing to get a playoff bid.
I don't think the Browns will actually go 11-5. My guess is that they'll win one of the remaining four games against teams 4-1 or better and lose two of the remaining seven games against teams 3-2 or worse. Thus, my prediction is 10-6 and either a fringe playoff team or barely out.
The Browns might actually be better than the Steelers this year but neither of them are as good as the Ravens and it isn't close.
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With all of the above said, it is still exciting for Clevelanders that it looks like there will be meaningful NFL football in Cleveland into December and probably even January:
The Browns host the Ravens on December 14 then travel to NY for back-to-back games against NY's two NFL teams which are currently a combined 0-10. Finally, the Browns host the Steelers in the last game of the regular season on January 3, 2021.
If the NFL Playoffs started today the AFC seeds would be:
- AFC-S Champions Tennessee 4-0
- AFC-N Champions Pittsburgh 4-0
- AFC-W Champions KC 4-1
- AFC-E Champions Buffalo 4-1
- Wildcard Baltimore 4-1
- Wildcard Cleveland 4-1
- Wildcard Vegas 3-2
- out Indy 3-2
- out New England 2-2
Thus, the divisional round match-ups would be:
- #1 seed Tennessee, bye
- #7 Vegas at #2 Pittsburgh
- #6 Cleveland at #3 KC
- #5 Baltimore at #4 Buffalo
However, as I said above, I think that Baltimore is, by far, the best team in the AFC-N. Consequently, my guess is that the Browns will lose to them at home on December 14 (albeit a lot closer than the 38-6 shellacking to open the season in Baltimore). That loss will eliminate any practical (if not mathematical) chance of the Browns winning the Division but the Browns should rebound with wins over the two hapless NYC teams then come home to face Pittsburgh in the regular season finale. That game most likely will be either for a playoff spot or for playoff seeding for both teams.
Seeding can be very important. If we assume that Baltimore will win the AFC-N then as of right now the Browns/Steelers games will determine which team gets the #5 seed (and the worst Division Champion in the Wildcard round). That would appear to be the AFC-E Champion (probably either Buffalo or New England). If the January 3, 2021 Pitt@Cle game is for the #5 seed that could be huge. If the #4 seed is a questionable Buffalo team while the #3 is a very strong Baltimore, KC, or Tennessee then there is a humongous difference between being the #5 and travelling to a winnable game in Buffalo compared to being the #6 seed and being basically cannon-fodder in Baltimore, KC, or Nashville.
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AFC Predictions roughly 1/3 of the way through the season:
- AFC-S Champion Tennessee: They are 1.5 games up and I don't think they'll be caught.
- AFC-N Champion Baltimore: The Ravens are 0.5 games down on the Steelers but that is just because the Ravens have played opponents with a pulse and the Steelers haven't. The Ravens are also tied with Cleveland but beat the Browns 38-6 to open the season.
- AFC-W Champion KC: I think the Chiefs are easily the best team in the AFC-W.
- AFC-E Champion New England: The Pats are 2.5 games down on the Bills so this may seem like a reach but Buffalo has been mostly escaping with close wins. I think New England is the better team and will come out on top.
- Wildcard Buffalo: They are 0.5 down to Pitt and tied with Cleveland but I think they'll win that provided that the Browns and Steelers split their series.
- Wildcard Cleveland: They are 0.5 down on Pitt but I think they'll win that.
- Wildcard Pittsburgh: I think they'll get caught by Baltimore (in the Division) and Buffalo and Cleveland in the wildcard race but they'll still finish ahead of the rest.
Thus the Wildcard round match-ups and predictions are:
- #1 Tennessee, bye
- #7 Pittsburgh at #2 Baltimore: Baltimore wins easily.
- #6 Cleveland at #3 KC: KC wins easily.
- #5 Buffalo at #4 New England: New England wins.
Those predictions are chalk so the Divisional Round match-ups and predictions are:
- #4 New England at #1 Tennessee: Tennessee wins.
- #3 KC at #2 Baltimore: Baltimore wins.
The AFC Championship would thus be:
- #2 Baltimore at #1 Tennessee: Baltimore wins.
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Browns on the road to take on the Squeelers.Have had good luck not watching
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Browns looking very much like the product of an easy schedule. Baker benched.
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Browns looking very much like the product of an easy schedule. Baker benched.
Baker is inconsistent as hell.
Steelers easily have one of the top 3-5 defenses in the NFL. They have an excellent front 7 and the addition of Minkah Fitzpatrick was huge for a secondary that was lacking play-makers.
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Baker is inconsistent as hell.
Steelers easily have one of the top 3-5 defenses in the NFL. They have an excellent front 7 and the addition of Minkah Fitzpatrick was huge for a secondary that was lacking play-makers.
Thats the thing with the NFL. Minkah Fitzpatrick on the Dolphins or Joe Haden on the Browns is an unnecessary luxury. You throw them on the Steelers, with other good players, they are amazing.
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Browns on the road to take on the Squeelers.Have had good luck not watching
So glad my local market switched over to the Patriots eventually losing to the Broncos. Watching Packers-Bucs.
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Bucs are destroying the Packers. Didn't think that would happen. At all. Thought it'd be close and Pack would actually win by 3-7 pts.
If not for the 1,000x penalties on the OL and the personal foul on that dumb center who head-butted a Bears LB'er- which those penalties killed all Tampa's good drives last week vs the Bears- this team would be 5-1 right now and maybe the leader in the pack for the #1 seed in the NFC, instead of 4-2.
How the F are the Bears 5-1 again? That offense is such trash. That defense is excellent though.
Edit: also- how in the world did the Patriots lose to the Broncos?
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I enjoy watching the Packers take a beating, especially when Rogers is frustrated and acting like a bitch
I had money on the Packers. Didn't see this coming, but I'll enjoy it
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Someone should ask Packers RB Jamal Williams what down is it. Down 38 to 10. Lol.
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Bucs are destroying the Packers. Didn't think that would happen. At all. Thought it'd be close and Pack would actually win by 3-7 pts.
If not for the 1,000x penalties on the OL and the personal foul on that dumb center who head-butted a Bears LB'er- which those penalties killed all Tampa's good drives last week vs the Bears- this team would be 5-1 right now and maybe the leader in the pack for the #1 seed in the NFC, instead of 4-2.
How the F are the Bears 5-1 again? That offense is such trash. That defense is excellent though.
Edit: also- how in the world did the Patriots lose to the Broncos?
Foles always fascinates me. He usually looks no different than any interchangable backup QB but seems to have a knack for pulling out of his behind when you need it most. Not in a game winning drive kinda way, but if its 3rd and 5 and a 1st ices the game, he'll get you 5 yards and 2 inches.
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AFC Predictions roughly 1/3 of the way through the season:
- AFC-S Champion Tennessee: They are 1.5 games up and I don't think they'll be caught.
- AFC-N Champion Baltimore: The Ravens are 0.5 games down on the Steelers but that is just because the Ravens have played opponents with a pulse and the Steelers haven't. The Ravens are also tied with Cleveland but beat the Browns 38-6 to open the season.
- AFC-W Champion KC: I think the Chiefs are easily the best team in the AFC-W.
- AFC-E Champion New England: The Pats are 2.5 games down on the Bills so this may seem like a reach but Buffalo has been mostly escaping with close wins. I think New England is the better team and will come out on top.
- Wildcard Buffalo: They are 0.5 down to Pitt and tied with Cleveland but I think they'll win that provided that the Browns and Steelers split their series.
- Wildcard Cleveland: They are 0.5 down on Pitt but I think they'll win that.
- Wildcard Pittsburgh: I think they'll get caught by Baltimore (in the Division) and Buffalo and Cleveland in the wildcard race but they'll still finish ahead of the rest.
Thus the Wildcard round match-ups and predictions are:
- #1 Tennessee, bye
- #7 Pittsburgh at #2 Baltimore: Baltimore wins easily.
- #6 Cleveland at #3 KC: KC wins easily.
- #5 Buffalo at #4 New England: New England wins.
Those predictions are chalk so the Divisional Round match-ups and predictions are:
- #4 New England at #1 Tennessee: Tennessee wins.
- #3 KC at #2 Baltimore: Baltimore wins.
The AFC Championship would thus be:
- #2 Baltimore at #1 Tennessee: Baltimore wins.
Would definitely put the Ravens behind KC, Tenn, and Pittsburgh right now. Buffalo has also impressed me more. I think the Pats are also in the mix even though their record doesn't show it.
The Ravens blitz all the time Gerg Williams approved gimmick defense will sure break the likes of Burrow and Daniel Jones in half but any offense w/ a pulse like KC will eat it alive.
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Would definitely put the Ravens behind KC, Tenn, and Pittsburgh right now. Buffalo has also impressed me more. I think the Pats are also in the mix even though their record doesn't show it.
The Ravens blitz all the time Gerg Williams approved gimmick defense will sure break the likes of Burrow and Daniel Jones in half but any offense w/ a pulse like KC will eat it alive.
At least for now I'm not going to overreact to Pittsburgh's big win over Cleveland. As I see it, there are basically three possible explanations for that:
- Pittsburgh is THAT good.
- Cleveland is THAT bad.
- It was just one-of-those-days and neither #1 nor #2 is correct.
Problems with #1:
- Pittsburgh's other four games aren't very impressive. They beat sub-.500 Denver by 5, they beat 1-4-1 Philly by 9, and they beat 1-5 Houston and NYG by 7 and ten. That does NOT make them look like SuperBowl material.
Problems with #2:
- Yes, the Browns have played an easy schedule with the exception of Pitt and Baltimore and those two trashed them but they DID win the other four games. 4-2 Indy is pretty good and 2-3 Dallas isn't complete trash. I didn't think last week that the Browns were as good as their 4-1 record last week but I also don't think that they are as bad as the Ravens and Steelers losses look either.
Ultimately, therefore, I think the answer to this riddle is that Pittsburgh is better than their unimpressive wins over Denver, Philly, Houston, and NYG and Cleveland isn't as good as their 4-1 record looked last week and on top of that it was just one of those days (ie, I don't necessarily think that Cleveland is 31 points worse than Pittsburgh).
We'll find out soon. Pittsburgh's next two games are on the road against the undefeated Titans then on the road against the 5-1 Ravens.
As for Cleveland:
- This week they visit Cincinnati. On the one hand, the Bengals are 1-4-1 and Cleveland already beat them once. On the other hand, the Browns beat them by a mere five points in Cleveland so winning in Cincinnati is not a given.
- Next week the Browns host the Raiders. IMHO, this is their most intriguing remaining game. The Browns have ten remaining games. Three are against teams that should obviously (and easily) beat Cleveland (Pitt 5-0, Tennessee 5-0, Baltimore 5-1). Another six are against teams 1-4-1 or worse (Cincy, Philly, Houston, Jacksonville, NYG, NYJ) that the Browns should definitely beat. That just leaves one more, the 3-2 Las Vegas Raiders in Cleveland on November 1.
IMHO, the game against the Raiders is the key game for the Browns for several reasons:
First, it is the most evenly matched remaining game so it is pretty easy to see it going either way.
Second, the game is fairly likely to come into play in determining playoff eligibility or seeding for the Browns. If the playoffs started today the Browns would be in as the #6 seed (thus getting a road game at the #3 seeded KC Chiefs). The Browns are only a game behind the Ravens but considering Cleveland's 38-6 loss to Baltimore I just don't see the Browns overtaking anyone. The Browns are tied with Indy for the 5th/6th seed and a half game ahead of Las Vegas. If the Browns beat Las Vegas they will own potentially tie-breaking wins over both the Raiders and the Colts which will really help the Browns down the stretch.
The Colts are off this week and play the Lions next week. Las Vegas hosts the Buccaneers this week than travels to Cleveland next week. Even if the Colts and Raiders win their other games and Cleveland loses their other game, here would be the likely mid-point playoff standings two weeks from now:
- #6, 5-2 Indianapolis
- #7, 5-3 Cleveland
- #8, 4-3 Las Vegas
Thus, Cleveland would be a half game down to the Colts and a half game up on the Raiders but they would have the tiebreaker over either or both so their playoff position would be reasonably secure.
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Patriots are sub .500 through a 5 game stretch for the first time since 2000. Significance of that year? It was Brady’s rookie season and Bledsoe was the starting QB. Crazy.
Cam isn’t accurate in the short to intermediate and they have zero weapons on offense at WR or TE, and the defense isn’t as good as it was last year.
Cam had a rough out but he’s still a good NFL QB, the OL is still above average, and when he’s healthy Sony Michel is a very good back.
Hard team to read but I think Bills are still favorite in the division and I’ll say Pats go 7-9 or 8-8 and miss the playoff.
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Cam isn't going to win anything anywhere imo
I wouldn't trade Cousins for Cam, and I'm not a fan of Cousins
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Foles always fascinates me. He usually looks no different than any interchangable backup QB but seems to have a knack for pulling out of his behind when you need it most. Not in a game winning drive kinda way, but if its 3rd and 5 and a 1st ices the game, he'll get you 5 yards and 2 inches.
Yeah, Foles just beats the hell out of me. He’s garbage 99% of the time but in 4th qtr comebacks or clutch situations he tends to just pull shit out of his ass and get W’s. It’s insane. Never seen anything like it.
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Patriots are sub .500 through a 5 game stretch for the first time since 2000. Significance of that year? It was Brady’s rookie season and Bledsoe was the starting QB. Crazy.
Cam isn’t accurate in the short to intermediate and they have zero weapons on offense at WR or TE, and the defense isn’t as good as it was last year.
Cam had a rough out but he’s still a good NFL QB, the OL is still above average, and when he’s healthy Sony Michel is a very good back.
Hard team to read but I think Bills are still favorite in the division and I’ll say Pats go 7-9 or 8-8 and miss the playoff.
Last week I thought the Pats would get it straightened out and still win the division but after their loss to Denver it is pretty hard to see that happening now.
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Last week I thought the Pats would get it straightened out and still win the division but after their loss to Denver it is pretty hard to see that happening now.
They are just completely devoid of talent and playmakers at WR/TE. The OL is still pretty good and while they don’t have a stud RB they do have a real nice stable of complimentary RBs.
And they really are devoid of talent in the front 7 on defense. Not really seeing anyone outside of Winovich that looks like a stud or potential stud in the making there. They have an excellent secondary though.
Right now, even though they just lost to KC and Tennessee- Bills still look like best team in the East to me. KC defending SB champs with arguably the best player in the league and Titans might be the best team in the entire league no one is talking about. Derrick Henry is not of this world and Tannehill doesn’t look so bad now that he’s out of Miami and has an actual team and coach around him.
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Cam isn't going to win anything anywhere imo
I wouldn't trade Cousins for Cam, and I'm not a fan of Cousins
As dreadful as Kirk Cousins is playing this season (11TD/10Int Vs 26TD/6Int last yr), what makes it all the worse is Minnesota extending his already bloated contract last March, a headline I somehow missed and didn't even learn of until this week. Rather than letting Cousins play out the final year of his contract, the Vikings added a 2yr/$66Mil extension to his 3yr/$84Mil deal. And Cousins is a guy Zimmer never wanted signed, much less for over $100Mil of cap occupying cash. Cousins is nearly untradeable and un-bench-able at this point. How much are Vikings fans wishing they'd just ridden out the Bridgewater injury?
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Bridgewater, Keenum, Bradford.... any of them would have been better than throwing that type of $$$ at Kirk
stupid Viking fans want to fire Zimmer. Zimmer is a dern good coach. This is Speilman's problem. Fire Rick!!!
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I will never get throwing a bunch of money at any non top 6-8 QB. You are better off paying your surrounding guys, and trying to find another cheap QB. You look at the guys who made it work, Brady always took a pay cut, Roethlisberger was the beneficiary of an insane run of good skill position drafting that they never paid to re-sign, etc...
Rodgers hasn't won since he got paid, Russell won on a rookie contract, Mahomes did. As soon as you pay a QB, you back yourself into a nearly impossible corner.
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I will never get throwing a bunch of money at any non top 6-8 QB. You are better off paying your surrounding guys, and trying to find another cheap QB. You look at the guys who made it work, Brady always took a pay cut, Roethlisberger was the beneficiary of an insane run of good skill position drafting that they never paid to re-sign, etc...
Rodgers hasn't won since he got paid, Russell won on a rookie contract, Mahomes did. As soon as you pay a QB, you back yourself into a nearly impossible corner.
This. Takes an entire team to win Super Bowls. Hard to build a team when one guy takes 20% of the cap space.
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it's tough
it's obviously a QB driven league. gotta have a top 10 QB to have a chance at the SB, but you also need other players on offense and ya gotta have a defense
the ticket has been to have a guy like Brady or Brees or Peyton Manning restructure the contract or get a young guy like Wilson or Mahomes before they cash in.
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I wonder how much you could learn looking at analytics of draft strategy and contract strategy to create a "formula" for winning NFL teams. I have to think there's been effort...
I've long believed that if you start at the OL and DL and work out from there that you're in the best strategy.
Great OL play make QBs and RBs look better, and QBs with time to read a defense and throw make the WRs look better. Obviously the LT position is well known for its importance, but I'd highlight the whole line. I don't know if you're better off doing this through draft or free agency, but I'd think it's safer to spend in free agency for stone cold locks rather than trying to develop guys via the draft...
Great DL play can slow down the running game and pressure the QB without elaborate blitzes, which allows you to throw more bodies at coverage. Again obviously the edge rushers are well known, but looking at guys like Aaron Donald show that having a guy who can both stop the run and disrupt the pass from the interior line is an advantage when everyone else is trying to pay up for the edge rushers.
I don't think you pay RBs in this league. It's arguably the shortest shelf life position in the league. Pick up them up in the draft, run out their rookie contract looking like a star playing behind your great OL, and then trade them for picks to stash new RBs.
But how to handle the other positions?
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I wonder how much you could learn looking at analytics of draft strategy and contract strategy to create a "formula" for winning NFL teams. I have to think there's been effort...
I've long believed that if you start at the OL and DL and work out from there that you're in the best strategy.
Correct the old military adage - secure the interior lines bring superior force to bare.Win the LOS and TOs you'll be in good shape
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no one in the NFL operates like that
not many in college anymore
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Yeah, Foles just beats the hell out of me. He’s garbage 99% of the time but in 4th qtr comebacks or clutch situations he tends to just pull shit out of his ass and get W’s. It’s insane. Never seen anything like it.
On days the D is playing well, Foles will bring out his worst and limp to a 13-10 victory. When the D can't stop anyone he'll throw for over 300 w/ 4TDs.
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it's tough
it's obviously a QB driven league. gotta have a top 10 QB to have a chance at the SB, but you also need other players on offense and ya gotta have a defense
the ticket has been to have a guy like Brady or Brees or Peyton Manning restructure the contract or get a young guy like Wilson or Mahomes before they cash in.
Seahawks are a perfect example of this. Before they had to pay Russ the Seahawks had an all-pro back, an all-timer of a secondary, and solid play from the front seven and OL. Now that Russ has cashed in, is any part of the roster as good as it was under Russ's rookie contract? The only unit that might be on par is WRs which is led by Metcalf who the Seahawks won't be able to afford to re-up. Yes, the Seahawks are 5-0, but it's all because Russ does all the "cooking." Seattle is not built for the playoffs.
Pro athletes live in a suburb of sorts, where instead of keeping up with who has the nicest yard, children in private school, and a family vacation to Charleston, they keep obsessive track of each other's contracts for the sake of their own status, until cashing in as a point of comparison without any mind to what's left over for the GM to work with. Brady and Brees at least have enough self awareness to not care as much.
Ecclesiastes 4:4 And I saw that all toil and all achievement spring from one person's envy of another.
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Seahawks are a perfect example of this. Before they had to pay Russ the Seahawks had an all-pro back, an all-timer of a secondary, and solid play from the front seven and OL. Now that Russ has cashed in, is any part of the roster as good as it was under Russ's rookie contract? The only unit that might be on par is WRs which is led by Metcalf who the Seahawks won't be able to afford to re-up. Yes, the Seahawks are 5-0, but it's all because Russ does all the "cooking." Seattle is not built for the playoffs.
Pro athletes live in a suburb of sorts, where instead of keeping up with who has the nicest yard, children in private school, and a family vacation to Charleston, they keep obsessive track of each other's contracts for the sake of their own status, until cashing in as a point of comparison without any mind to what's left over for the GM to work with. Brady and Brees at least have enough self awareness to not care as much.
Ecclesiastes 4:4 And I saw that all toil and all achievement spring from one person's envy of another.
Great point. Seattle hit on Metcalff who is an elite WR- in the 2nd rd. He’s being paid peanuts right now.
Seattle was known for GREAT defense, and well now that defense is atrocious. It’s ranked 31st in the league right now in pass defense and in total defense. It is terrible. I believe only the Cowboys have a worse defense right now.
That’s not a recipe for success in the playoffs.
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Ravens trade for OLB/DE pass rush specialist Yannick Ngakoue. That’s a great addition to an already stingy defense.
Also sounding like Ravens in the running to sign Antonio Brown after week 8. The chatter is it’s down to either Seattle or Baltimore. Not sure Seattle needs AB. Baltimore probably doesn’t need him either, but they could use the help. Seattle has a loaded WR corps already.
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The guy is ass unless his agent gave him an earful or perhaps he's already running out of coin and a light bulb went off.That many teams can't be full of it.Crap the Raiders sent him packing
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Ravens trade for OLB/DE pass rush specialist Yannick Ngakoue. That’s a great addition to an already stingy defense.
Vikings throwing in the towel on the season
an 3rd round pick? That ain't much
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Big game tonight! The division leader is in massive trouble after their season-ending QB injury, so we have the teams 0.5 games back and 1 game back from the division leader battling it out to see who will lead their division to the playoffs!
The winner of this game then is only 2 or 3 games off .500!
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I'm rooting for whatever team can beat out the Cowboys
probably Philly
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Daniel Jones with an amazing TD run... Oh wait. He was tackled by the turf :57:
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gonna be a highlight
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Daniel Jones with an amazing TD run... Oh wait. He was tackled by the turf :57:
at least college football has the decency to give teams of play on Thursdays and by week the week before. The NFL Thursday night games are absolute garbage
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at least college football has the decency to give teams of play on Thursdays and by week the week before. The NFL Thursday night games are absolute garbage
And the Cowboys and Washington faceoff Sunday, so along with the Eagles "tripping up" the little Giants, the NFC East will finally notch more than 1 win this week.
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That nfc east division is the worst division in football I have ever seen.
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yup, agreed
even worse than the AFC East back in the day
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Antonio Brown to the Bucs. Holy shit.
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Antonio Brown to the Bucs. Holy shit.
Really good or total disaster?
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SMH
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Really good or total disaster?
I only see upside. It’ll be a cheap contract they can get rid of him immediately if he doesn’t tow the line.
Mike Evans has been hobbled but he’s getting healthier. Godwin hasn’t really played at all, but he’s almost back. Throw in a fresh Antonio Brown....and holy shit.
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I wonder how much you could learn looking at analytics of draft strategy and contract strategy to create a "formula" for winning NFL teams. I have to think there's been effort...
I've long believed that if you start at the OL and DL and work out from there that you're in the best strategy.
Great OL play make QBs and RBs look better, and QBs with time to read a defense and throw make the WRs look better. Obviously the LT position is well known for its importance, but I'd highlight the whole line. I don't know if you're better off doing this through draft or free agency, but I'd think it's safer to spend in free agency for stone cold locks rather than trying to develop guys via the draft...
Great DL play can slow down the running game and pressure the QB without elaborate blitzes, which allows you to throw more bodies at coverage. Again obviously the edge rushers are well known, but looking at guys like Aaron Donald show that having a guy who can both stop the run and disrupt the pass from the interior line is an advantage when everyone else is trying to pay up for the edge rushers.
I don't think you pay RBs in this league. It's arguably the shortest shelf life position in the league. Pick up them up in the draft, run out their rookie contract looking like a star playing behind your great OL, and then trade them for picks to stash new RBs.
But how to handle the other positions?
sometimes if there is a potentially ace QB out there you have to draft him.
for the most part the one constant for consistently good teams has been a good OL. Wentz probably hasn't regressed as a QB, but his OL made him better a couple years back and his OL is making him look crazy overpaid today. Good guards and centers are always undervalued in the draft and you can find them in rounds 2-5.
I think RBs are more important than most do. Refs do make it harder to pass in the playoffs. However get the other positions sorted 1st then draft or sign your RB. I also don't think resigning a top RB is a bad thing. As you can get a top 5 one for under 10M/year which some slot WRs make these days.
I would also probably run a 3-4 on D as well. IMO DL seem to have big bust potential if you draft them early. Also if you got a good DL you are gonna have to pay for it. Pass rushing OLBs are cheaper than 4-3 DEs and 3-4 MLBs are cheaper than DTs
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I liked the pick, but man Jeff Okudah has been horrible
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I liked the pick, but man Jeff Okudah has been horrible
they traded Diggs and Slay, its just him back there playing for a coach who doesn't know what he's doing.
the steelers will happily trade a 3rd rounder for him in 2023 and turn him into a quality starter.
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they traded Diggs and Slay, its just him back there playing for a coach who doesn't know what he's doing.
the steelers will happily trade a 3rd rounder for him in 2023 and turn him into a quality starter.
Yeah, I'm not writing him off, but he has been easily the worst of the Lions' cornerbacks this year.
I think PFF has him as the lowest graded 1st round pick (with enough snaps) thus far this year. It's just stupid stuff. Like not knowing where the boundary is, and instead riding the receiver right into a PI.
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T.J. Hockenson is an idiot
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Clowns-Bungles going down to the wire under 30 no TOs
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Browns retake the lead in Cinci,TD from Mayfield to Peoples -Jones 1st TD pass for DPJ,Browns miss the xtra pt.11 sec left.Burrow having a great game ain't over
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It's over woo-hoo
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Really good or total disaster?
This isn't politics! :67:
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T.J. Hockenson is an idiot
But Todd Gurley is a bigger one
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The Bucs defense is extremely fun to watch.
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I liked the pick, but man Jeff Okudah has been horrible
It was a bad pick. Period. You don’t take a corner that high unless he’s an unbelievable prospect like a Woodson or Champ Bailey. Okudah was FAR from that.
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Anyone catching the ending of the Falcons blowing another game? This time to the Lions? Don't know if I've ever seen anyone end up losing because they "accidently" scored a TD.
3:20 - Lions FG 16-14
1:32 - Falcons trim clock, set up a 1st Down at Lions 20 (Lions all 3 TOs left)
1:14 - Falcons RB runs a 3rd&1 for 1st Down to Lions 10
1:05 - Falcons TD on run up middle, couldn't keep from letting up and NOT breaking plane of GL, Lions defenders standing around motioning a TD, RB later says momentum carried him into endzone
1:05 - 2PT Conversions puts Falcons up 22-16
0:00 - Lions score TD with no time on clock, Stafford pass to Hockenson
https://twitter.com/sadlionsfanJD/status/1320483977937874945
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1320459532129230848
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why couldn't the Falcons have choked away a loss vs the Vikings?
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Tampa is going to win the Super Bowl if Evans & Godwin can get back close to 100% healthy- and it looks like both are getting closer every week- and if they can get anything out of AB at all.
I wouldn’t trust Antonio Brown in any other locker room. But he seems to really almost worship Brady and that is probably the only QB in the entire league that I think Brown will fall in line for.
If they get anything at all from Antonio Brown- they could wind up being the best WR corps in NFL history. Evans & Godwin were both Pro Bowl caliber last year and are smack dab in the primes of their careers. Gronkowski seems to be rounding into form and looking like his old self the last two weeks in a row. Brate is a really nice #2 TE. And little Scotty Miller has been a huge surprise- don’t mistake him for Edelman or Welker or Amendola- this dude is a legit 4.3 burner. Not to mention the rookie from Minnesota Tyler Johnson has caught TD passes two weeks in a row now. They are only going to get better week by week.
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and the defense is solid AF
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and the defense is solid AF
Yeah- seem like the only nfc contender with a defense. Seattle and GB defenses can’t stop anyone.
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Chicago D has been pretty solid. They also beat Tampa.
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Chicago D has been pretty solid. They also beat Tampa.
Fluke win. GB is winning the north.
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https://twitter.com/captainbroward/status/1320929320479633409?s=20
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Vikings throwing in the towel on the season
an 3rd round pick? That ain't much
(Already) Looking back on the Vikings disappointing season, I think their back was broken after the painful loss to Seattle. Minnesota controlled the first half and were holding off a strong push by Russ to end the game. Zimmer's oversight was good and his decision to go for it on 4th down inside the Seahawks' red zone against tired defense was fine. Then Seattle stopped the Vikings and Russ was magical on a 97 yard drive. The wind was out of the Vikings' sails by then, to the point that by the next Sunday they were blown out by a Falcons team bent on finding the most creative ways to choke (see above). Hold on against Seattle, take care of business Vs Atlanta, and a 3-3 Vikings would have a very different outlook going into the rest of the season. Zimmer would likely be receiving a good amount of praise for holding everything together.
Seattle was known for GREAT defense, and well now that defense is atrocious. It’s ranked 31st in the league right now in pass defense and in total defense. It is terrible. I believe only the Cowboys have a worse defense right now.
That’s not a recipe for success in the playoffs.
As for Seattle and the playoffs, with a bottom feeding defense forcing Russ to engineer wins by shoot out (which finally caught up with Seattle during this past loss Vs Arizona), the 2020 Seahawks are the NFL's equivalent to a Mike D'Antoni coached NBA team. Plenty of scoring yielding plenty of regular season wins, but nothing that can be depended on when the stakes are higher against a Chicago or Tampa defense taking aim.
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As for Seattle and the playoffs, with a bottom feeding defense forcing Russ to engineer wins by shoot out (which finally caught up with Seattle during this past loss Vs Arizona), the 2020 Seahawks are the NFL's equivalent to a Mike D'Antoni coached NBA team. Plenty of scoring yielding plenty of regular season wins, but nothing that can be depended on when the stakes are higher against a Chicago or Tampa defense taking aim.
Chicago isn’t making the playoffs imo. Chicago is about to go on a 5+ game losing streak, and Green Bay is winning the north and the wildcard teams will be New Orleans, Arizona, and LA Rams imo.
Foles is turning back into- well Foles. Aside from a fluke playoff run and two games vs Tom Brady- we saw who he really is Monday night. That’s who he really is. Chicago was lucky as hell to beat Detroit, Atlanta, and Tampa- honestly all 3 of those wins were flukish. Bears have zero talent on offense- their offense is trash.
They do however might have the best defense in the nfl, and they certainly have the best defensive player in the entire league imo in Khalil Mack.
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(Already) Looking back on the Vikings disappointing season, I think their back was broken after the painful loss to Seattle. Minnesota controlled the first half and were holding off a strong push by Russ to end the game. Zimmer's oversight was good and his decision to go for it on 4th down inside the Seahawks' red zone against tired defense was fine. Then Seattle stopped the Vikings and Russ was magical on a 97 yard drive. The wind was out of the Vikings' sails by then, to the point that by the next Sunday they were blown out by a Falcons team bent on finding the most creative ways to choke (see above). Hold on against Seattle, take care of business Vs Atlanta, and a 3-3 Vikings would have a very different outlook going into the rest of the season. Zimmer would likely be receiving a good amount of praise for holding everything together.
true, unfortunately
too many injuries and Cousins just isn't the guy
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Carlos Dunlap traded to Seattle. Sounds like Green Bay is trying to make a play for Will Fuller and that the Patriots are shopping Stephon Gillmore.
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IMHO, this game is critical for Cleveland's playoff hopes.
Now, I'm not some delusional "Browns are going to win the Super Bowl" Clevelanders. They aren't that good. That was made abundantly clear in the 38-6 loss to Baltimore and the 38-7 loss to Pittsburgh.
That said, the Browns have a VERY good chance to make the playoffs and they could potentially even get a plausibly winnable first round game. I think that playoff experience needs to be the realistic goal and two playoff games would be better than one even if the second one is a blowout loss.
Here is why I say the game against the Vegas Raiders (that is still hard for me to say) is crucial:
The Browns are 5-2 with nine remaining games. Of those, three are near sure losses to the 6-0 Steelers, the 5-1 Titans, and the 5-1 Ravens. Another five are near sure wins over the 0-7 Jets, 1-6 Giants, 1-6 Jaguars, 1-6 Texans (I still want to say 'Oilers'), and the 2-4-1 Eagles. That only leaves one other game, this week's contest against the 3-3 Raiders.
In theory it doesn't make much difference. With a win the Browns will be 6-2 and expected to finish 11-5. With a loss the Browns will be 5-3 and expected to finish 10-6. Either way they stand a pretty good chance to make the playoffs. Here is why it matters:
- Room for error: With a win here, the Browns can afford to lose to one of the five bad teams left on their schedule. With a loss here an upset might be fatal to Cleveland's playoff hopes. This is especially true because:
- Tiebreakers: The Browns already own a H2H win over Indy. Right now the Browns would be the sixth seed in the AFC. Indy is #7 trailing the Browns by 1/2 a game and the tiebreaker. Miami and Vegas are two games down. If the Browns win this, there really won't be anyone threatening them from behind. If they lose this they'll only be 1/2 game ahead of the Raiders and since the Raiders have the tiebreaker that could be trouble.
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Are you accounting for the expanded playoffs here? I just noticed you mentioned how far back the #7 team was
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Are you accounting for the expanded playoffs here? I just noticed you mentioned how far back the #7 team was
Yes. That makes it even more likely that Cleveland will get in, but they need the best seed possible if they are going to have a prayer.
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send everyone home but leave Zuerlien on the field to entertain us
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Yes. That makes it even more likely that Cleveland will get in
Didn't watch the game but heard(sports Radio) there were plenty of drops,and the "D" didn't play too bad considering the 3 & outs
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Didn't watch the game but heard(sports Radio) there were plenty of drops,and the "D" didn't play too bad considering the 3 & outs
Defense was bad, particularly against the run (which was new usually it is the secondary that is the issue) and on 3rd and long continually gave up first downs. Could not get off the field. Didn't help that Myles was out a good part of the game with a knee injury.
That said, a number of big drops by our receivers were the actual difference in the game. I could point to 3 drops that would have totally changed the game.
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Steelers looking really good. If Devin Bush hadn’t gotten hurt for the year with a torn acl I just might have had them ticketed for the Super Bowl. Still leaning Chiefs in the AFC.
How did DK Metcalf get drafted in the end of the second round? He looks like a Calvin Johnson clone. He is literally unguardable.
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Trade deadline is tomorrow.
Just throwing this out there- but if you’re the Bucs do you go even more all in and offer a 1st round pick to NE for CB Stephon Gilmore?
I think NE needs to take that deal. They need all the 1st round picks they can get. That roster sucks.
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If you’re the Pats do you try to trade Gilmore for a 1st rd pick, McCourty for a 2nd, and tank the season to ensure you get a top 3 pick so you can take either Lawerence or Fields?
Cause I think I would.
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Why the hell does Bruce Arians insist on playing a freaking INFERIOR player in Ronald Jones over Leonard Fournette? Makes zero sense.
Antoine Winfield Jr is freaking awesome. Might wind up being the pick of the entire draft.
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Brian Griese sucks. I can’t stand the guy. There I said it.
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Jesus Christ Bruce Arians is a clown coach. How does this guy have a reputation of being a good coach again? He’s never won shit and he’s a grade A retard when it comes to personnel and situational football.
Bucs are getting AB next week. If they don’t get to a Super Bowl it will be because they have an absolute shit burger for a head coach. This dude is Barry Switzer level stupid.
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Steelers looking really good. If Devin Bush hadn’t gotten hurt for the year with a torn acl I just might have had them ticketed for the Super Bowl. Still leaning Chiefs in the AFC.
How did DK Metcalf get drafted in the end of the second round? He looks like a Calvin Johnson clone. He is literally unguardable.
Heyward hurt now too. I think their only chance to beat KC, is to hold on for home field, and get a Heinz Field late January snowstorm
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Midway through the 2020 season.....
Tom Brady: 20 Pass TD's, 4 INT's, 102.3 QB Rating
New England QB's: 3 Pass TD's, 11 INT's, 67 QB Rating
Yeesh. Same offense as last year basically up in New England. Brady deserved MVP in 2019 taking that awful offense and getting that team to 12-4 and throwing for 4,000+ yards and 24 TD's v 8 INT's with that cast of bums. Insane how truly awful they are on offense without him.
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Eagles fans are impatiently turning on Pederson and Wentz. Since beating the Cowboys I’ve read four beat articles questioning who’s the bigger problem – Wentz or Pederson? Winning two of the last three division titles (to include a SUPER BOWL), along with their current lead in the division isn’t enough to overlook the obvious on-field deterioration of Pederson’s game management and Wentz’s turnover-plagued decision making. Even as poorly as the rest of the division is playing, I’m not sure Philly can hold onto the division lead given the high amount of above .500 teams left on their schedule. So how can you win another division title and still call for moving on from your mostly stable, longtime QB/HC combo? The Eagles are a name movie franchise that still wins the box office weekend despite each new release suffering falling Rotten Tomatoes ratings and vengeful fanboys decrying the loss of “canon” to avoid facing their own questionable life choices, such as patchy facial hair, obnoxious tattoos, compulsive vaping, and mixing downmarket vodkas with Monster Energy drinks, all of which are also endemic to the Eagles fanbase.
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Wentz has turned into garbage in short order. Not sure I've ever seen anything like that. I thought he was going to be an elite QB for a long time. Now he kinda sucks to be honest. He's a turnover machine and he makes so many "WTF was THAT" plays- when he shouldn't be- he's played long enough in the NFL to not make those mistakes and dumb plays continually.
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Midway through the 2020 season.....
Tom Brady: 20 Pass TD's, 4 INT's, 102.3 QB Rating
New England QB's: 3 Pass TD's, 11 INT's, 67 QB Rating
Yeesh. Same offense as last year basically up in New England. Brady deserved MVP in 2019 taking that awful offense and getting that team to 12-4 and throwing for 4,000+ yards and 24 TD's v 8 INT's with that cast of bums. Insane how truly awful they are on offense without him.
Cam Newton - trash
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Pittsburgh is tough to beat, nasty defense, and an offense with the weapons to win.
I agree with MDot that KC is still the team to beat in the AFC though.
They have a better offense, and a pretty good defense to go with it. They create turnovers and score points.
Roethlisberger being healthy will make or break the Steelers. He's starting to have elbow issues.
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Cam Newton - trash
I don't think Cam is trash. I think that team/roster is trash. Cam literally has no help. He can still be a good player with help around him imo. He needs a dynamic RB, a good pass catching TE, and some big WR's who can get downfield and catch the deep ball and come down with jump balls. Like he had in Carolina when he was an MVP.
It was always a bad fit. Cam was never an accurate short/intermediate passer. That team has zero weapons on offense and their entire offense is predicated on quick, accurate short to intermediate throws. They literally have the worst collection of skill talent in the NFL.
Cam is an excellent runner and has a HUGE albeit sometimes inaccurate arm and had a pretty good deep ball. Patriots have nobody that can get open deep. Hell they have nobody that can get open at all. Brady was about as accurate as it gets and could throw guys open. Cam is complete opposite of that.
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Pittsburgh is tough to beat, nasty defense, and an offense with the weapons to win.
I agree with MDot that KC is still the team to beat in the AFC though.
But until last year the Squeelers had their number.Hope KC stays on this new trend
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49ers get wrecked by Green Bay 34-17. In their defense, not sure there is a more injured team in the league.
Starting QB Jimmy G - out.
Starting RB and leading rusher Raheem Mostert - out.
Stud TE- maybe best in game- George Kittle - out.
Their 3rd leading statistical WR Deebo Samuel - out.
Their 1st round pick and statistical leader at WR Ayiuk - out.
Their 2nd leading WR Kendrick Bourne - out.
Their starting LT - a former All-Pro - Trent Williams - out.
By far their best player on defense- Nick Bosa - out.
Pass rush specialist Dee Ford - out.
Best CB on their team Richard Sherman - out.
They have to be the most injured team I've ever seen in a single season.
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touchdown
Dalvin Cook
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Bills are crushing Seattle 24-7. Who saw that coming?
It’s surprising, but then when you remember that the Seattle D is literally the worst in the league- maybe it shouldn’t be so surprising.
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I thought the dallas defense was the worst
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I thought the dallas defense was the worst
I thought so too but they just said Seattle 32nd ranked defense.
Either way, Dallas or SEA- those are by far the two worst defenses in the nfl so far this sEason.
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looking forward to watching Pittsburg put it on Dallas
SKOL!
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2020 Cowboys up 13?
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Pittsburgh offense is predictable...until they let Ben take over and run that 2 minute drill.
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Holy hell- how is Tampa down 31-0 at the half at home. Jesus Christ.
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the curse of Antonio Brown!
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Only the Lions can not just have an obvious penalty missed, but actually called, and then inexplicably picked up
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Only the Lions can not just have an obvious penalty missed, but actually called, and then inexplicably picked up
Lions gonna Lions.
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Tampa has a ton of talent. But they are a stupid, sloppy football team. This is a reflection of their fat ass, stupid, sloppy river boat casino captain of a head coach.
How in the actual f*k does Arians have a rep as a good coach? Dude is a complete ass clown.
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Lions gonna Lions.
Then a phantom PI when the game should have been over.
Even Mike Pereira has no idea what they are seeing out there. No idea how Chase Young hits Stafford right in the facemask, they throw the flag, then pick it up
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WTF Cephus? Why would you stop running? That was a TD
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Trufant couldn't guard my grandma; Haskins is already a 3rd string QB, McLaurin had a fumble to cost Washington a FG, and then Chase Young with a critical roughing the passer to lose the game.
UM fans wondering why Buckeyes wait until they reach the NFL to play like this in Michigan
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Is there a better offensive play caller/schemer in the NFL than Kyle Shannahan? He’s impressive as hell.
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How in the f**k is that roughing the passer on 49ers? RIDICULOUS.
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watching Seahawks/Lambs
Donkeys/Raiders on the axillary TV
both games close enough to entertain
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NFC West might be best division I’ve ever seen. Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals all 6-3, and the 49ers are at 4-6 despite 80% of their starters being on IR.
On the reverse of that- NFC East might be the worst division I’ve ever seen.
Also- Texans look more stupid by the game giving up one of the top WRs in the league for basically nothing.
Also- Patriots finally look like they have an explosive offensive player in Damien Harris. Who was a Michigan commit that flipped to Alabama after Brady Hoke was fired- and has some real explosiveness to his game. He hits that hole and he’s up field in a hurry.
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NFC East is the worst division I’ve ever seen.
Sexy Rexy Burkhead is a ball player
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You Drew Brees has a collapsed lung and five fractured ribs. Wonder if this is the end for him. Dude is 41 years old with little kids that are getting older. His arm was already shot before this injury. He came really close to taking a tv job before deciding to come back to the Saints.
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You Drew Brees has a collapsed lung and five fractured ribs. Wonder if this is the end for him. Dude is 41 years old with little kids that are getting older. His arm was already shot before this injury. He came really close to taking a tv job before deciding to come back to the Saints.
Think he and Brady are both super competitive and to an extent they both know there are all-time records on the line that will be owned by whichever of them retires last.
I think both he and Brady don't have the same arm they had 5 years ago, but I wouldn't call either "shot" yet. It's more like Tiger last year at the Masters... You know there are certain shots you can no longer hit, so you don't attempt those and just hit the ones you can hit--perfectly.
I think Brees wants another ring, though. If he gets it this year, I think he walks away regardless of whatever Brady does. If he doesn't get a ring, and he thinks New Orleans has the roster to get there, and Brady is still around, I think he might stick around one more.
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SKOL!!!
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SKOL!!!
Thielen out here making one handed TD catches, and dropping two handed ones.
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Certainly would not have guessed that 13 years later, the two guys in the front would be starting against each other on MNF, after battling to be the primary backup to the guy standing behind them...who started a game in the same season for the Patriots.
(https://i.imgur.com/7AUgPVK.png)
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cradle of QBs
Kirk played well and deserved to end the primetime curse
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Think he and Brady are both super competitive and to an extent they both know there are all-time records on the line that will be owned by whichever of them retires last.
I think both he and Brady don't have the same arm they had 5 years ago, but I wouldn't call either "shot" yet. It's more like Tiger last year at the Masters... You know there are certain shots you can no longer hit, so you don't attempt those and just hit the ones you can hit--perfectly.
I think Brees wants another ring, though. If he gets it this year, I think he walks away regardless of whatever Brady does. If he doesn't get a ring, and he thinks New Orleans has the roster to get there, and Brady is still around, I think he might stick around one more.
Yeah, I just don't see the arm to push the ball downfield at all in Brees. He's still accurate and smart as ever, but he can't go deep anymore. Brady still can.
Imagine had San Diego just stuck with Brees and drafted Larry Fitzgerald #1 in 2004 instead of Eli and then trading Eli for Rivers. They'd have had Brees at QB, LaDanian Tomlinson (HOF'er) at RB, Larry Fitzgerald (future HOF'er) at WR 1, Vincent Jackson (multiple Pro Bowl player) at WR 2, and Antonio Gates (future HOF'er) at TE. Brees would've had a lot more than 1 ring right now.
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Yeah, I just don't see the arm to push the ball downfield at all in Brees. He's still accurate and smart as ever, but he can't go deep anymore. Brady still can.
Imagine had San Diego just stuck with Brees and drafted Larry Fitzgerald #1 in 2004 instead of Eli and then trading Eli for Rivers. They'd have had Brees at QB, LaDanian Tomlinson (HOF'er) at RB, Larry Fitzgerald (future HOF'er) at WR 1, Vincent Jackson (multiple Pro Bowl player) at WR 2, and Antonio Gates (future HOF'er) at TE. Brees would've had a lot more than 1 ring right now.
They did also get Shawne Merriman (who was arguably the best LB in the league for his first 2-3 years in the league, before falling off a cliff), and Nate Kaeding (who went to some Pro Bowls), with the picks they got in that swap.
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They did also get Shawne Merriman (who was arguably the best LB in the league for his first 2-3 years in the league, before falling off a cliff), and Nate Kaeding (who went to some Pro Bowls), with the picks they got in that swap.
Merriman was only good when he was on the juice. As soon as it was found out he was on 'roids and couldn't take them anymore, he fell right off a cliff as a player. Literally.
You add Larry Fitzgerald to that mix with LaDanian AND Anontio Gates- holy shit man.
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Bears should've signed Cam Newton for $1 million, cut Trash-binsky and kept Foles as the back-up to Cam.
They could have, but they also should have drafted one of several QB's selected after they foolishly traded up to #2 to get this clown.
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Imagine had San Diego just stuck with Brees and drafted Larry Fitzgerald #1 in 2004 instead of Eli and then trading Eli for Rivers. They'd have had Brees at QB, LaDanian Tomlinson (HOF'er) at RB, Larry Fitzgerald (future HOF'er) at WR 1, Vincent Jackson (multiple Pro Bowl player) at WR 2, and Antonio Gates (future HOF'er) at TE. Brees would've had a lot more than 1 ring right now.
Imagine if I hit the Power Ball - cold beer and beef jerky all around
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Don't forget the pickled eggs.
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Of course can't forget the egg lobby and perhaps some blind robins if you can remember those(smoked herring).I believe that harkens back to the day when Taverns were mostly Northern European Types
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Imagine if I hit the Power Ball - cold beer and beef jerky all around
I'm rooting for you tonight
I love beer and jerky
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/78174535.jpg)
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Arizona Cardinals @ Seattle Seahawks tonight. I'm thinking Seattle gets back on track against a Cardinals team coming off a very emotional, self-congratulatory win over Buffalo. The Cardinals will be trying to handle Russell Wilson without FOUR defensive lineman, the best of whom, Peters is out for a while after injuries last Sunday.
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The Lions' last two first round picks, T.J. Hockenson and Jeff Okudah, battling it out to see who can be more responsible for a loss to a bad Carolina team, playing without Bridgewater or McCaffrey
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The Lions' last two first round picks, T.J. Hockenson and Jeff Okudah, battling it out to see who can be more responsible for a loss to a bad Carolina team, playing without Bridgewater or McCaffrey
Let's be honest, they were both bad picks. You don't take a TE in the top 10, period. Unless he's a Gronk clone- and even Gronk went 2nd round because of all his injuries. Lions should've learned that lesson when they took Ebron in the top 10.
And I've been saying since before that draft not to take Okudah. It's not that I didn't like him. You just don't take a CB that high unless he's a Woodson or Bailey type prospect. Okudah was FAR from that.
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Joe Burrow with a nasty looking knee injury. He's done for the year. Bengals OL has been getting him killed all year. If they don't spend big money in F/A and use picks in the draft to get him some OL's and some blocking TE's he won't last 5 years.
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When did that happen
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When did that happen
Today against the Redskins Football Team. Really took away the only reason to ever watch a Bengals game
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Today against the Redskins Football Team. Really took away the only reason to ever watch a Bengals game
He is legit. But they need to get him help or he's not going to last.
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Today against the Redskins Football Team. Really took away the only reason to ever watch a Bengals game
While Haskins watched the guy he chased out of Columbus
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Colts Vs Packers: Have never seen a team in position to run out clock and win (Colts) lose due to numerous clock-stopping holding calls against the OL gave opponent (Packers) enough time to get ball back and do damage. In this case Packers force OT. FIVE holding penalties against Colts OL on what should've been their game ending possession.
edit: Packers force OT with FG. OT starts with Packers driving until fumble puts Colts in FG position for win, 34-31.
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Colts Vs Packers: Have never seen a team in position to run out clock and win (Colts) lose due to numerous clock-stopping holding calls against the OL gave opponent (Packers) enough time to get ball back and do damage. In this case Packers force OT. FIVE holding penalties against Colts OL on what should've been their game ending possession.
edit: Packers force OT with FG. OT starts with Packers driving until fumble puts Colts in FG position for win, 34-31.
Weird that a bunch of calls would go Green Bays way
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While Haskins watched the guy he chased out of Columbus
Kind of a poignant scene as Haskins, Terry McLaurin, and Chase Young all stood around Burrow as they loaded him on the cart
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Let's be honest, they were both bad picks. You don't take a TE in the top 10, period. Unless he's a Gronk clone- and even Gronk went 2nd round because of all his injuries. Lions should've learned that lesson when they took Ebron in the top 10.
And I've been saying since before that draft not to take Okudah. It's not that I didn't like him. You just don't take a CB that high unless he's a Woodson or Bailey type prospect. Okudah was FAR from that.
Wow I agree with you that you should not take a corner in the top 10, I think Jeff Okudah will end up being a pretty darn good player.
there is almost no Charles Woodson‘s or champ Bailey’s left and it’s partly because the NFL has change the rules to be tilted so much in favor of the offense. There’s almost no such thing as a shut down corner in the NFL anymore. The wide receivers have such an advantage and are so good.
Also Okudah did not have the benefit of a preseason and all the coaching that comes from game film and had that hamstring injury early. He really is learning by fire.
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Well I guarantee if they couldn't wear those spiderman/gecko gloves the offensive numbers would drop.Now every reciever looks like Paul Warfield/Lynn Swann.There was one game a few yrs back a reciever couldn't immediately shake the ball from his hand.Browns/Buckeyes can't remember which shaking his hand like he burnt it on a stove
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The amount of money that the Lions have made for backup QBs is..... a lot.
Hockerson wasn't a bad pick I guess. The 1st round in 2019 looks rather weak in hindsight. He seems like he should be better than the stats he puts up though.
Okudah, probably wait and see. The entire Lions secondary was gutted, patricia is a joke, so yea he was just thrown to the wolves.
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JORDAN FULLER PICKS OFF FELLOW NO. 199 OVERALL PICK TOM BRADY FOR FIRST TWO NFL INTERCEPTIONS 😁
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JORDAN FULLER PICKS OFF FELLOW NO. 199 OVERALL PICK TOM BRADY FOR FIRST TWO NFL INTERCEPTIONS 😁
Bucs still probably gonna win 10-11 games and make playoffs, but that Arians/Brady marriage is NOT looking like it’s on good footing.
Arians is a dolt. He’s asking his 43 year old QB to take too many 5 and 7 step drops and go deep. Brady is taking too many hits. He’s 43. Not 23. And to me it looks like his body has hit that midseason wall. Even when New England didn’t have the best OL’s, they still got the ball out quick and put an emphasis on rushing the ball as well to limit the hits Brady took.
Arians screwed up royally. He should’ve did what the Broncos did when Manning came over. Manning installed his offense and concepts/terminology and everyone had to get on board with him. Arians did the reverse. Dumb move. Should’ve let Brady take control of the offense and do what he’s done in NE for 20 years with a little bit of Tampa old offense sprinkled in.
Belichik is missing Brady right now, and Brady is missing Belichik. They should’ve finished their careers together. They were a match made in heaven.
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Can't blame Arians for Monday,Brady completing underneath stuff fine.The situation demanded a deep throw - that Tom just didn't have it then/there.I caught the last 3-4 minutes
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Can't blame Arians for Monday,Brady completing underneath stuff fine.The situation demanded a deep throw - that Tom just didn't have it then/there.I caught the last 3-4 minutes
Arians is a piss poor coach. Have no idea how he got this "rep" as a good coach. He's not.
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Arians was the first Cardinals head coach since Norm Barry in 1925 to record at least nine wins in his first season, with a record of 10-6 for 2013.
The Cardinals finished the 2014 season with an 11–5 record and were the #5 seed in the NFC. The 11 wins tied a Cardinals franchise record for most wins in a season. Arians led the Cardinals to a 9–1 start, best in the NFL, but injuries to starting quarterback Carson Palmer (who was 6–0 as the starter) and backup Drew Stanton, (who was 5–3 as starter) led to the Seattle Seahawks claiming the divisional title with a 12–4 record. Roughly half the team was put on injured reserve between week 8 and week 17. The injury plagued Cardinals were eliminated by the Carolina Panthers in the Wild Card round of the playoffs, 27–16. Following the season, Arians was named AP Head Coach of the Year for the second time in three seasons.
On February 23, 2015, the Cardinals announced a new four-year deal with Arians which would keep him with the Cardinals through the 2018 season.[21] After starting 3–0 for a second consecutive season, in 2015, Arians led the Cardinals to a franchise record in season wins, ending the season with a 13–3 record. The Cardinals defeated the Green Bay Packers 26-20 in overtime in the Divisional round of the playoffs, Arians' first playoff win as a head coach.
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Arians was the first Cardinals head coach since Norm Barry in 1925 to record at least nine wins in his first season, with a record of 10-6 for 2013.
The Cardinals finished the 2014 season with an 11–5 record and were the #5 seed in the NFC. The 11 wins tied a Cardinals franchise record for most wins in a season. Arians led the Cardinals to a 9–1 start, best in the NFL, but injuries to starting quarterback Carson Palmer (who was 6–0 as the starter) and backup Drew Stanton, (who was 5–3 as starter) led to the Seattle Seahawks claiming the divisional title with a 12–4 record. Roughly half the team was put on injured reserve between week 8 and week 17. The injury plagued Cardinals were eliminated by the Carolina Panthers in the Wild Card round of the playoffs, 27–16. Following the season, Arians was named AP Head Coach of the Year for the second time in three seasons.
On February 23, 2015, the Cardinals announced a new four-year deal with Arians which would keep him with the Cardinals through the 2018 season.[21] After starting 3–0 for a second consecutive season, in 2015, Arians led the Cardinals to a franchise record in season wins, ending the season with a 13–3 record. The Cardinals defeated the Green Bay Packers 26-20 in overtime in the Divisional round of the playoffs, Arians' first playoff win as a head coach.
Yeah, and Ken Wisenhut took Arizona to a Super Bowl and NFC Championship in back to back years. Wayne Fontes took the Lions to an NFC Championship. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
Arians has never won a thing in the NFL. He is 1-2 in the playoffs. Every QB he's had in year 1 as a HC/OC has lead the NFL in turnovers. He had two good years in Arizona- and won nothing in those years. His last two years in Arizona were 7-8-1 and 8-8. His first year in Tampa was 7-9. He is the definition of mediocre head coach. This is part of why the NFL is so bad when it comes to coaching. They just keep hiring these lame retreads who have proven over long careers they cannot do it- instead of taking a flier on a young up and comer.
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Brady had time and made that throw - bad game.Arians isn't to blame for Monday Night,hell Tom Terrific walked off with out acknowledgements,nods or handshakes to opponents
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Yeah, Brady was terrible on Monday.
Arians is fine, but he and Brady together don't make sense. He wants his QB to hold the ball, challenge vertically, but take hits. That's literally the antetheses of how Brady plays
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Yeah, Brady was terrible on Monday.
Arians is fine, but he and Brady together don't make sense. He wants his QB to hold the ball, challenge vertically, but take hits. That's literally the antetheses of how Brady plays
You shouldn’t be asking a 43 year old QB to take 7 step drops that many times a game and push the ball up the field and take the hits. That’s just asking for trouble. Human body doesn’t recover the same way at 43 as it does at 33 or 23. At 23 I could go out drinking all night, no sleep and function the next day. By 33, if I tried that- I’d be feeling like I was dying. Brady 13 years ago with Moss did the vertical, take the hits in the pocket thing for a couple years there- and one of the years he got seriously injured- but that’s really the only time he’s done it in his career because it’s really the only time he’s had those kind of receivers with Moss and Stallworth.
Brady’s reads/progressions were low to hi in NE, now they are complete opposite. It’s a whole new way, new personnel, new terminology, new system, and zero offseason to get it all on the same page.
Should’ve adapted to him, like Broncos did with Peyton.
Brady is ducking, you can tell he doesn’t want to get hit. He’s just chucking balls to get rid of them to avoid taking the hits. Change the offense and go with the quick stuff and the tempo and let him run his offense and they’ll be just fine. Scotty Miller needs to get more reps. He’s disappeared from their offense and he was a big part.
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Brady is ducking, you can tell he doesn’t want to get hit. He’s just chucking balls to get rid of them to avoid taking the hits. Change the offense and go with the quick stuff and the tempo and let him run his offense and they’ll be just fine. Scotty Miller needs to get more reps. He’s disappeared from their offense and he was a big part.
hah, so now he's playing like 90% of the QBs in the league
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hah, so now he's playing like 90% of the QBs in the league
Guy was slow as dirt in his 20s. He’s 43 and even slower now. He can’t move at all to get away from the pressure. If he’s pressured- it’s over.
Doesn’t have the escapability to get away from pressure like a Wilson or Mahomes and throw on the run, or the youth to stand in the pocket and fire deep and take the hits like a Burrow or Herbert. Which- we just saw what happened to Burrow taking all those hits. Guy lead the NFL in 5&7 step drop backs by a lot- on a bad team- and his season is over and his knee is mangled.
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Good Points but Tom choose his poison :c023:
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Arians has also chosen. He could change his poison and hold backs and TEs in to max protect and use shorter patterns to protect Brady like has worked so well in the past.
dumbass
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Maybe but he may need a back out there to loosen up coverage
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Tom loves throwing to the backs. Sometimes after they've helped with pass pro
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Lions can coach and gm
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Patricia & Quinn out in Detroit
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Screw off SAM,Lions can coach WTF >:(
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Harbaugh to the Lions?
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About damn time. I'd like to have hope that they'll get it right with the next coach, but.....it's the Lions. Of course they are going to screw this next hire up.
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mixed a helluva Bloody Mary!
Skol Vikings!
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if that’s a roughing the passer call on Tampa- how is it even possible to play defense in the NFL today? It’s not.
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if that’s a roughing the passer call on Tampa- how is it even possible to play defense in the NFL today? It’s not.
Ole Clark helping out his UM buddy.
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Ole Clark helping out his UM buddy.
Now Clark’s two PI’s absolutely were stupid plays by a stupid player. Clark is super talented. Not the sharpest tool in the shed however.
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Tampa has displayed pathetic defense all game long. KC offense is just impossible to stop.
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those 2 QBs? can't even swipe at them or it's a roughing penalty
actually hit them in the helmet??? flag EVERY time
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Unless you bring a blankie and give them a goodnight kiss, it's roughing.
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I don't always root for Da Bears, but when I do, they're playing the Packers
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Just imagine if the TB-KC crew had done a Brady-Rodgers game. I'm not sure there would have been a play where they didn't call roughing the passer.
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I'm guessing Mahomie is getting to that status very quickly
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I'm guessing Mahomie is getting to that status very quickly
Brady has 1 maybe 2 max left. Rodgers probably has 5 or less.
Mahomes is going to carry that league for the next 12-15 years.
Gotta protect the goods.
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Ed Zachery
he's already the league's top superstar
probably sells the most jerseys
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The Bears Still Suck.
https://youtu.be/DSjtiHfHdbQ
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So we're going to have NFL football tonight, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday, Monday, and next Tuesday?
Uhh, ok...
Gotta say I feel justified to skip fantasy football this year.
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I'm ok with it
chilly and dark here in the evenings, rather be in my chair watching football
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but, I don't play fantasy football
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but, I don't play fantasy football
For me it's kinda similar to the old adage, "if it's got wheels, ya can race it!"
Generally if I've got friends who are running a league, I'm going to compete and try to win it, if for no other reason than that it's there and I'm annoyingly competitive.
I just didn't have the energy in 2020 to not only deal with all the normal management, but then have to wonder if I'm going to learn that one of my star players is sidelined just prior to the game due to a positive COVID test. It's hard enough to manage actual injuries.
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is Derrick Henry the most physically dominating player in the NFL?
I felt like when Calvin Johnson was in his prime he was that- just a physical freak that bullied DBs and could not be matched up with. Then when Gronkowski was in his prime- he was that.
Henry is that right now. What a joy he is to watch. You can tell late in games defensive players just don’t want it with him. 6’3, 250 pound freak that no one wants a piece of.
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Another Californian fleeing to Arizona:
https://twitter.com/mercnews/status/1333478652894474241
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Arizona appreciates the $$$
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The Bears Still Suck.
https://youtu.be/DSjtiHfHdbQ
They have the most talented defense in the NFL imo. Khalil Mack is the best defensive player in the NFL. I think they pretty much are gassed and just quit on defense because of the offense. They are like F this, I'm out.
Bears have no talent on offense. The QB & RB talent might be the very worst in the entire league at each position. Allen Robinson is pretty good, but the rest of the WR crew is pretty sorry. At TE Jimmy Graham is a shell of his former great self.
If the Bears would've just stayed put and drafted DeShaun Watson #3 in 2017 and kept those 4 picks they traded away to move up ONE spot to take Trash-bisky they are a Super Bowl contender right now. Pretty crazy. Bears should've taken Watson at #3, traded up to the top of the 2nd rd to take Dalvin Cook or stayed put in the 2nd and taken Joe Mixon. They'd have had a franchise QB and a legit starting RB and be a problem for the entire league right now. Sucks to suck.
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The old lady would not have allowed Mixon to be taken. Character problem.
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If the Bears would've just stayed put and drafted DeShaun Watson #3 in 2017 and kept those 4 picks they traded away to move up ONE spot to take Trash-bisky they are a Super Bowl contender right now. Pretty crazy. Bears should've taken Watson at #3, traded up to the top of the 2nd rd to take Dalvin Cook or stayed put in the 2nd and taken Joe Mixon. They'd have had a franchise QB and a legit starting RB and be a problem for the entire league right now. Sucks to suck.
Man, I like Deshaun Watson. I'd hate to see the Bears ruin him like they've ruined basically any QB they've ever touched.
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maybe the Lions could ruin him, instead?
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Browns up 24-7 in the 2nd Qtr with a 75 yrd strike to DPJ ,thanx UM
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11 plays 90 yd drive Browns up 31-7
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Nick Chubb TD Browns up 38-7,someone spiked my Egg Nog
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38-13 Titans 3 play 75 yd drive
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Flipping the 1st half script Browns 38-22
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Browns up 24-7 in the 2nd Qtr with a 75 yrd strike to DPJ ,thanx UM
He is going to wind up being really good now that’s he’s getting actual coaching and playing with a legitimate QB.
Urbs said he thought DPJ was a top 10 nfl draft pick when he recruited him.
Only Jim Harbaugh can take a 5*, #1 WR and top 10 overall recruit in the entire country and turn him into a 6th rounder. Lol.
Is it any wonder he’s about to lose arguably the best/highest rated WR he’s signed since DPJ to Bama? You’d have to be an idiot to willingly go play offense for Jim Harbaugh.
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Ryan Tannehill looked like Montatana in the 2nd half - laser like darts and threading the needle.Sometimes the Browns had very good coverage on the WRs just RT was dialed in.If he can play like that the majority of the time he'd be tough to stop.Titans dropped at least 3,the last one hit AJ Brown in stride between the numbers,I'd make that catch
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When DJP left IMO he saw the offense being in trouble with the O-Line leaving last season.Too bad Collins didn't come out kinda screwed himself but he couldn't know about covid last Jan.
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Capt Kirk and the Skol Bros find a way
go pack go
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Vegas barely escaped the NY Jets.
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When DJP left IMO he saw the offense being in trouble with the O-Line leaving last season.Too bad Collins didn't come out kinda screwed himself but he couldn't know about covid last Jan.
He’s not stupid. He knew Milton was Harbaugh’s little pet, that entire team know- and he like that entire team also knew Milton sucks at playing QB.
He made the right decision to go pro. It’s just shocking he went 6th rd. He’s a lot more talented than your average 6th rd pick.
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He’s not stupid. He knew Milton was Harbaugh’s little pet, that entire team know- and he like that entire team also knew Milton sucks at playing QB.
He made the right decision to go pro. It’s just shocking he went 6th rd. He’s a lot more talented than your average 6th rd pick.
HE never learned how to run routes in Ann Arbor...it appears he has
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The Browns obviously haven't missed OBJ.Between Landry,Higgins,DPJ many media types say OBJ was in Mayfield's ear alot - like he was the OC.Baker free to sling it where he feels w/o flak from the diva - or so it has been suggested
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HE never learned how to run routes in Ann Arbor...it appears he has
Which is a huge indictment on Harbaugh and his coaches. Michigan literally didn’t have a WR’s coach on staff DPJ’s first year at Michigan. They were having grad assistants and “analysts” help with the WRs.
Compare that to Lloyd Carr’s tenure when he had maybe the best WRs coach Michigan ever had in Erik Campbell aka Soup as his players called him. Campbell coached WRs for 12 years at Michigan and produced 1,000 yard WR pretty much every single season and sent lots of guys to the pros. He would’ve worked wonders to help a guy like DPJ who was an incredible athlete but didn’t know how to really play the position coming out of HS.
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NFC Least beats both division leading Steelers and Seahawks.
On another note I never liked the argument that if a division winner is bad enough (7-9) they shouldn’t get their home game. It’ll only happens about once every ten years (across 6 divisions) that a division winner is under .500. And last time it happened (NFC West - 2010) the 7-9 Seahawks stuck it to the Saints.
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NFC Least beats both division leading Steelers and Seahawks.
On another note I never liked the argument that if a division winner is bad enough (7-9) they shouldn’t get their home game. It’ll only happens about once every ten years (across 6 divisions) that a division winner is under .500. And last time it happened (NFC West - 2010) the 7-9 Seahawks stuck it to the Saints.
That was the famous one because of Beast Mode, the Panthers did it a few years later, and also won. Granted they played a Cardinals team that had lost Carson Palmer and Drew Stanton, and was down to 3rd string QB Ryan Lindley in the Wildcard game.
I think Arizona set the record for fewest yards in a playoff game.
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The Browns obviously haven't missed OBJ.Between Landry,Higgins,DPJ many media types say OBJ was in Mayfield's ear alot - like he was the OC.Baker free to sling it where he feels w/o flak from the diva - or so it has been suggested
I'd love to see the 2004 offense with not Terry Malone as OC
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That was the famous one because of Beast Mode, the Panthers did it a few years later, and also won. Granted they played a Cardinals team that had lost Carson Palmer and Drew Stanton, and was down to 3rd string QB Ryan Lindley in the Wildcard game.
I think Arizona set the record for fewest yards in a playoff game.
completely forgot about that game...for good reason
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If the Playoffs started this weekend the AFC seeds would be:
- 11-1 Pittsburgh (beats KC based on conference record)
- 11-1 KC
- 9-3 Buffalo
- 8-4 Tennessee
- 9-3 Cleveland
- 8-4 Miami
- 8-4 Indianapolis
- 7-5 Vegas - first team out
- 7-5 Baltimore - next team out
- 6-6 New England - third team out
So Pittsburgh would get a bye and the wildcard weekend match-ups would be:
- 8-4 Indianapolis at 11-1 KC
- 8-4 Miami at 9-3 Buffalo
- 9-3 Cleveland at 8-4 Tennessee
As a Browns "fan" I have no illusions about this team winning the Super Bowl, but I am encouraged that the Browns are in the #1 wildcard spot. As I see it, the bottom wildcard (currently Indy) will have basically zero chance against the second best Division Champion (currently KC) and the middle wildcard (currently Miami) will be a longshot against the #3 Division Champion (currently Buffalo) but the top wildcard (currently Cleveland) should have a pretty good chance against the worst Division Champion (currently Tennessee). It would be good for the Browns to win a playoff game and thus to get two games worth of playoff experience rather than just one.
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Does Kirk Cousins suck or not? Sometimes I think he does. Sometimes I think oh he’s actually quite good.
There isn’t a bigger enigma at QB in the entire league.
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Ryan Tannehill maybe
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Does Kirk Cousins suck or not?
he sucks when he doesn't get protection in the pocket, or when he plays from behind or in a big game (pressure)
when he has a clean pocket and little pressure to win or playing with the lead, he's actually very good
Jekyll & Hyde
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I think the league has figured that Ben has about 75% of Drew Brees arm strength.
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Does Kirk Cousins suck or not?
he sucks when he doesn't get protection in the pocket, or when he plays from behind or in a big game (pressure)
when he has a clean pocket and little pressure to win or playing with the lead, he's actually very good
Jekyll & Hyde
he's middle of the pack, you can win w/ that but you have to be really really good everywhere else
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I think the league has figured that Ben has about 75% of Drew Brees arm strength.
I think they figured out they have no running game, and his receivers stopped being able to catch. They were playing fire for weeks, even while winning
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Does Kirk Cousins suck or not?
he sucks when he doesn't get protection in the pocket, or when he plays from behind or in a big game (pressure)
when he has a clean pocket and little pressure to win or playing with the lead, he's actually very good
Jekyll & Hyde
He doesn't suck.
Hes solid. If you pay for a solid QB, you are screwed. How many non rookie contract QBs have won a Super Bowl in recent memory? Brady. Brees a decade ago. A washed up Peyton Manning. He's not those guys.
Thats the one thing I wish the NFL would fix. You almost can't win now without a rookie scale QB. The position is too important, and the salary reflects that, but it means you can't put any team around him.
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Man, you know you must really suck if you lose to the Cowboys this season. Poor Bengals.
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Man, you know you must really suck if you lose to the Cowboys this season. Poor Bengals.
well the Bengals did have the #1 pick in the 2020 draft, and they earned it by being the worst team in the NFL in 2019.
That #1 pick is real good. But he blew up his knee because the stupid Bengals dropped him back for 5 & 7 step drops literally more than any other QB in the league. The #1 drop back QB now that Burrow is out? A 43 year old Tom Brady. Yikes. Bucs have the hapless Falcons twice and the sorry Detroit Lions to finish the season. I think I could start at QB and get 3 wins vs that.
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:) Love to see it from behind the monitor and into the huddle.Liven up the season
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Man, you know you must really suck if you lose to the Cowboys this season. Poor Bengals.
the vikings really suck
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He doesn't suck.
Hes solid. If you pay for a solid QB, you are screwed. How many non rookie contract QBs have won a Super Bowl in recent memory? Brady. Brees a decade ago. A washed up Peyton Manning. He's not those guys.
Thats the one thing I wish the NFL would fix. You almost can't win now without a rookie scale QB. The position is too important, and the salary reflects that, but it means you can't put any team around him.
yup, easy fix. You have salary cap and then inside that cap you can only pay any one player so much.
QBs don't need THAT much money
they can get along just being normal filthy millionaires
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Vikings didn’t have to hand him that crazy fully guaranteed contract. That’s on them.
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no shit
wasn't Zimmer's idea
I'd fire Spielman
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Nfl is XIIng.
Love it.
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I need this explained to me. With roughly 13 minutes left to play the Browns were down 34-20, scored at TD, and went for 2. Then, with 1 minute to play they score a TD to cut it to 42-41 and kick the XP tie the game. Why go for 2 in one instance and not the other?
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only down 6, 2 FGs could have tied it
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only down 6, 2 FGs could have tied it
I guess. That’s as good an explanation as I can come up with.
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I........CAN'T........TAKE.......IT.......ANY.......MORE...... ...SOME.....ONE.........MAKE.......IT.......STOP
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only down 6, 2 FGs could have tied it
So I guess a lot of that decision depends on the amount of time left. If it’s mid 2nd quarter they aren’t going for 2 I wouldn’t think.
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In 2015 the Ravens won with time expiring on a blocked kick-6.I'm really starting to hate theses guys
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it's the Browns, it's what they do
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMfaavF1R3E&ab_channel=NFLScrimmage
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Cowherd made a great point on his show, sports media making way too big a deal with every little thing going on in Tampa. Brady is on pace for 37 pass TD’s and 4,300+ yards- which the pass td #’s would be franchise record in Tampa- and 11-5 or 10-6 and a trip to the post-season- with no off-season ota’s or training camp and no pre-season- in an entirely new system that couldn’t be more different than we he ran in NE.
That’s all a win for a 43-year old.
Their 3 most recent losses have been to Saints, Rams, and KC. All of them division leaders and KC is the best team in football.
Bucs finish with Atlanta twice and Detroit. If they aren’t 10-6 minimum something went way wrong.
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Raiders barf up an OT game vs the Chargers.
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A tie was the only appropriate way for that shit show to end
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Justin Herbert finished 22-for-32 with 314 passing yards and two touchdown passes. He tied the rookie touchdown passes record with 27, a mark set by Baker Mayfield in 2018.
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Justin Herbert finished 22-for-32 with 314 passing yards and two touchdown passes. He tied the rookie touchdown passes record with 27, a mark set by Baker Mayfield in 2018.
I think Baker only started 12 games though. Hue Jackson the bumbling idiot he was, thought it would be a good idea to play Tyrod Taylor in front of him.
Coincidentally, the Chargers were going to start the season with Tyrod Taylor over Justin Herbert, until one of the Chargers' team doctors accidentally punctured Tyrod Taylor's lung- forcing them to start Herbert from day one.
Herbert is the real deal. Which is shocking to me, because he was so up and down and honestly just not that impressive at Oregon.
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randomly turned on some NFL games- how is Tampa down 14-0 to the Falcons? Teams with that much talent on paper that struggle = poor coaching. They will go nowhere as long as Bruce Arians is the head coach.
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Herbert is the real deal. Which is shocking to me, because he was so up and down and honestly just not that impressive at Oregon.
Time will tell,I didn't like Wentz when drafted but he was great as rookie.Hasn't got back there yet.But Herbert looks dialed in right now,maybe Wentz gets back there too
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why does Trublowsky always have a career day vs the Vikings?
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Two red zone fumbles, missed PAT. Can't have it
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why does Trublowsky always have a career day vs the Vikings?
just to tease Bears fans into thinking he might actually be good one day.
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Jets up 13-3 on the Rams
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It would appear the missed season and shoulder surgery bought Roethlisberger maybe 8 games this season?
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It would appear the missed season and shoulder surgery bought Roethlisberger maybe 8 games this season?
When he brings the Steelers back to win he'll get another week of being a conquering hero
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He deserves it
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it sucks being a Lions fan. I try to quit on them, but deep down I still want them to win. Really though, kind of expected Tampa Bay to blow the doors off the Lions. Was really hoping they'd fight more however.
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This was the first week I finally said "nah". That Chicago win bought them two extra weeks of interest from me, but I was out today.
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I saw at halftime the Bucs had 410 yards to the Lions’ 57. That’s unfathomable in the NFL. You rarely see that kind of dominance in college. That’s high school mismatch kind of stuff.
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I saw at halftime the Bucs had 410 yards to the Lions’ 57. That’s unfathomable in the NFL. You rarely see that kind of dominance in college. That’s high school mismatch kind of stuff.
At full strength, the Lions could have had double that!
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The Raiders gacked that game away against Miami. I guess they took copious notes on how to do that when the Jets gave away a game to them in the final seconds earlier this year.
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I'm guessing all 3 NFL games were on the NFL Network.My dayz viewing Jolly Roger and the rest of those !@+=*&$# are numbered
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I'd be very surprised if he'd set a course for another HC gig specially in the NFL.He's got plenty of coin and a cushy analyst gig during CFB season.That's a dream come true for us here..Who knows though Gruden/Edwards even Vermeil came back after how many years out.
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I'd love to see Urban in the NFL. He's always seemed to have zero interest in the NFL though. Doubt it happens.
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if Urban does go though, Jacksonville has to be the best job available in my mind. They'll have the #1 pick in the draft- HELLO TREVOR LAWRENCE! Plus another 1st round pick as well, and also two 2nd rd picks, and they'll have a shit ton of cap space to sign F/A's in 2021.
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Steelers down to the Colts 21-7 and it's almost halftime. They started out 11-0 and on the verge of losing 4 straight. Wow.
Also: how are the 1-13 Jets beating the Browns by 10? C'mon man.
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Browns are down their top 3 WRs, 2 LBs, amd 2 OL. I was surprised to see this morning that they were still favored by 6.
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The Steelers trying to hand the Browns a chance at the division, and the Browns instead losing to the worst team in the league is peak Browns.
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All 4 Wrs are out,5 if you want to include OBJ, 2 O-lineman,2 LBs just off the top of my head
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LOL, Baker
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All 4 Wrs are out,5 if you want to include OBJ, 2 O-lineman,2 LBs just off the top of my head
Sounds like a recipe to throw it 50 times
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with all the WRs out Browns throw 53 times today. They ran Chubb and Hunt 15 times total.
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If the Rams want to pay me Jared Goff money to throw dumb ass interceptions. I reluctantly accept
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If the Rams want to pay me Jared Goff money to throw dumb ass interceptions. I reluctantly accept
I have no idea why they paid him that kind of money. He’s just not that good imo.
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Teams are so nervous to let Good, but not great, quarterbacks hit the open market. I don't blame them, it is what has been established. What I do question is why. Aside from the Vikings paying cousins, how many teams have paid top dollar for a free agent quarterback? Part of the issue is that they don't come available, and I do wonder if teams are scared to be the one who does allow it to happen.
I'm interested to see if a team has the guts to exercise that 4th year rookie option, and trade him. I would rather start over, then pay a ton of money for a quarterback between #8-#20 in the league. Those guys are legitimate starting NFL quarterbacks, but you can't win while paying them
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All 4 Wrs are out,5 if you want to include OBJ, 2 O-lineman,2 LBs just off the top of my head
the Jets are by far the worst team in the NFL. Browns should've won, even without those guys.
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Sounds like a recipe to throw it 50 times
Browns gonna Brown.
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according to FOX Sports NFL insider Jay Glazer, one NFL team is showing interest in Harbaugh, and has reached out to the 49ers ownership and management to pick their brains on what working with Jim Harbaugh is like. Wonder who that team is.
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Rodgers probably sealed the deal at MVP with his 4 TD game performance imo. He's leading the leauge in passer rating and now has 44 TD's to only 5 INT's.
In Aaron Rodgers' 13 seasons as a starting NFL QB, he has thrown double digit INT's in a season only twice. Brett Favre had 18 seasons as a starting NFL QB with double digit INT's.
Rodgers' TD to INT are 408 to 89. This is completely insane. Brett Favre by comparison threw 336 INT's.
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with all the WRs out Browns throw 53 times today. They ran Chubb and Hunt 15 times total.
Had no choice, Jets were stacking the box and our line wasn't working. Lots of coulda, shoulda in this game, but with no time to prepare a "new" game plan and having to do your normal saturday walk through in your hotel parking lot at 4 in the morning on Sunday because your plane was delayed 4 hours getting into New Jersey. It was a real confluence of problems. As disappointed as I am, we can still make the playoffs. Just need to win on Sunday. There are ways to get in if we lose, but would rather not depend on it.
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Wow, WFT straight up cut Haskins.
I'm shocked, I thought he was going to be a star
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Wow, WFT straight up cut Haskins.
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Wow, WFT straight up cut Haskins.
I'm shocked, I thought he was going to be a star
There's gotta be a back story. Apparently he was grumbling about getting benched. Maybe he was just too much of a cancer in the locker room and they don't want to deal with it?
Kinda like the Jets and Le'Veon Bell? He wanted a trade and nobody was willing to give enough in return, so they just cut him and said screw it... He wanted out, so they got rid of him and just accepted it as a sunk cost.
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Wow, WFT straight up cut Haskins.
I'm shocked, I thought he was going to be a star
He’s got a huge arm but he can’t read a defense at all and he’s an immature malcontent and apparently a locker room cancer.
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There's gotta be a back story. Apparently he was grumbling about getting benched. Maybe he was just too much of a cancer in the locker room and they don't want to deal with it?
Kinda like the Jets and Le'Veon Bell? He wanted a trade and nobody was willing to give enough in return, so they just cut him and said screw it... He wanted out, so they got rid of him and just accepted it as a sunk cost.
4 QBs in NFL history that were picked in the first round were cut prior to their third year. Haskins is the first to ever be cut prior to the end of his second.
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He’s got a huge arm but he can’t read a defense at all and he’s an immature malcontent and apparently a locker room cancer.
Is that all ya got?Maybe URBZ spoiled him but if that is the case it's a shame they get paid at all.Pack a lunch and go to work punk
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4 QBs in NFL history that were picked in the first round were cut prior to their third year. Haskins is the first to ever be cut prior to the end of his second.
So he's ahead of ther curve is what you're saying ;D
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Is that all ya got?Maybe URBZ spoiled him but if that is the case it's a shame they get paid at all.Pack a lunch and go to work punk
Guaranteed $8.4M paid over the next 2 years. He isn't going to work anytime soon. I guess WFT could fight it and say they cut him for violation of his contract, but I don't think they would win it.
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He’s got a huge arm but he can’t read a defense at all and he’s an immature malcontent and apparently a locker room cancer.
sounds like Cam Newton
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sounds like Cam Newton
I don't think Cam is a locker-room cancer. His teammates always liked him. Cam was an MVP and took a team to the Super Bowl. Haskins hasn't done jackshit. Cam is just washed up- his body is a broken down shell of it's former Adonis self.
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I don't think Cam is a locker-room cancer. His teammates always liked him. Cam was an MVP and took a team to the Super Bowl. Haskins hasn't done jackshit. Cam is just washed up- his body is a broken down shell of it's former Adonis self.
If the refs protected Cam like they do Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Manning, etc..., he'd be in much better shape. They basically saw that he could take it, and he is completely broken down from it.
Haskins sounds more like Manziel. Can't figure it out when he's not the most gifted player on the field anymore, and a total juvenile off of it.
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if Cam wouldn't have played the "Superman" card every time he made a play with his feet.........
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if Cam wouldn't have played the "Superman" card every time he made a play with his feet.........
In his prime, he damn near was Superman. He's right up there with Vick, Lamar Jackson, and Cunningham for best running QB's ever.
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In his prime, he damn near was Superman. He's right up there with Vick, Lamar Jackson, and Cunningham for best running QB's ever.
And Moon and John Elway. Those dudes would have killed it in a modern offense.
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And Moon and John Elway. Those dudes would have killed it in a modern offense.
Moon and Elway? They could move and were good athletes but they weren’t in the same universe as the other four.
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Detroit Lions supposedly considering PJ Fleck.
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Saw this on Cowherd, Patriots Offense in 2019 vs 2020 - mind you this is basically the same exact roster on offense with actually probably a better RB room and OL in 2020...
#7 ranked scoring offense in 2019.
#28 ranked scoring offense in 2020.
2019 Brady stat-line:
24 TD, 8 INT, 253.6 Pass Yards Per Game, 88.8 QB Rating.
2020 Cam stat-line
5 TD, 10 INT, 172.5 Pass Yards Per Game, 78.9 QB Rating.
Belichik has now won less than 46% of his games as a head coach without Tom Brady- and it's now only the 3rd time since 2001 that the Patriots have not made the playoffs. They missed the playoffs in 2002 after going 9-7 following their Super Bowl victory in 2001, and they missed the playoffs in 2008 when Brady tore his ACL in the opening game of that season and missed the entire season.
I think he's a great defensive coach, for sure. Greatest coach ever? I don't think so. I'll always say Bill Walsh. Walsh was a terrific GM and he invented an offensive system that revolutionized the NFL and he still has disciples of his using that offense today. Plus he's had countless coaches under his tree leave and have success and win Super Bowls at other places. Belichik? He's a horrible GM and sucks at drafting players, every single coach he's ever had under him that's left New England has been absolute horseshit, and having Brady- the greatest QB to ever play the game for 20 years covered up a lot of his warts.
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But Tom made great strides under BB also.Took some nads to bench Bledsoe and hand Brady the reigns.And BB could recycle and coach up NFL cast offs.Crappy evaluator of collegiate talent over all,tries to make things work that just won't
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Bledsoe's ripped sternum benched him
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I mean when he returned
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I mean when he returned
I thought he did go back to Drew initially, but he was terrible
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I thought he did go back to Drew initially, but he was terrible
No, Bledsoe didn't even get a chance to compete for the job after he came back healthy. There was a huge controversy over it at the time. Bledsoe split reps in practice with Brady the week he came back from the injury, but Brady still got the start. The Pats lost that game, and then the following week Belichik said Brady is our starter, we're not splitting reps- Drew is our back-up, Brady is our starter- and it was all she wrote from there. The Patriots never lost another game again and rode that wave all the way to the Super Bowl.
Belichik sticking with Brady actually took a lot of balls. Bledsoe was the #1 overall pick in the 1993 NFL Draft, and his arm had been compared to Marino and Elway coming out of college. Bledsoe lead the NFL in passing in 1994, lead the Patriots to the Super Bowl in 1996, had made the Pro Bowl in 1994, 1996, and 1997, and had just signed an at the time record $103 million contract in 2000. Dumping Bledsoe for a 2nd year player drafted in the 6th round was ballsy. Not very many coaches would've done it.
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The Patriots never lost another game again and rode that wave all the way to the Super Bowl.Perhaps you mean that season
Dumping Bledsoe for a 2nd year player drafted in the 6th round was ballsy. Not very many coaches would've done it.That's basically what I was saying the two complimented each other well
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Browns drought over with a 2 point win over the Steelers' 4th preseason game squad
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Never thought I'd watch the Cowboys be actively screwed by the refs repeatedly with the playoffs on the line. Seeing how the other half lives.
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Never thought I'd watch the Cowboys be actively screwed by the refs repeatedly with the playoffs on the line. Seeing how the other half lives.
Ope, never mind
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Fox with the best shot of a bottom of a scrum for a fumble I’ve ever seen. Somehow they got a clear shot of the Giants RB under a pile securing a fumble.
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Some years 6-10 gets you a top 10 pick, this year it may get you a home playoff game.
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Browns drought over with a 2 point win over the Steelers' 4th preseason game squad
Steelers started off 11-0. Went 1-4 down the stretch. Wow. Not a good sign. You want to finish the year 4-1 with momentum going into the playoff. They’ll be a one and done in the playoff and bounce out immediately.
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Great opening drive for the Bears. Scored a TD and ate up half the 1st Quarter doing it.
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Steelers started off 11-0. Went 1-4 down the stretch. Wow. Not a good sign. You want to finish the year 4-1 with momentum going into the playoff. They’ll be a one and done in the playoff and bounce out immediately.
Today, meh. They rested everyone, and were still a 2 point conversion away from OT.
The 1-3 prior to that, what is concerning is Ben's inability to stretch the field. They already can't run, so now you can bring the safeties down, but not even to defend the run, to double receivers.
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Browns drought over with a 2 point win over the Steelers' 4th preseason game squad
To be fair, the Browns were missing some people as well but that was not at all inspiring for Cleveland. Looking like one and done but at least the drought is over and the team is improving. They have made huge strides year over year.
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Green Bay follows with an even longer TD drive. Each team gets one possession and we are in the 2nd quarter already.
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Did anyone else see the phantom roughing the passer call against the lions?
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Arizona with a goal line stand via forced fumble.
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Bears finally throw a pass longer than 3 yards past the LOS but can only muster a FG. 21-16. If the Rams win they are in regardless.
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Did anyone else see the phantom roughing the passer call against the lions?
Wasn't watching, but my texts blew up. Loss was better
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Did anyone else see the phantom roughing the passer call against the lions?
saw it. Even as a Viking fan it was horrid
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How are the Rams winning with Ed Sheeran at QB?
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Arizona sucks?
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Arizona sucks?
The Bears are counting on it. Down 28-16 with under 4:00 to go. They have done as good a job playing keep away this game as any team I’ve seen in a long time but it won’t be enough.
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Were the Colts DQd? Who assembled that graphic?
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Were the Colts DQd? Who assembled that graphic?
The Brits
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This one better? O0
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DeShaun Watson reportedly asking to be traded from the Texans. If he landed in Pittsburgh, Minnesota, or Chicago- man, look out.
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the Purple guys would trade for Kirk even up
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the Purple guys would trade for Kirk even up
Bill O'Brien isn't the GM anymore in Houston. If he was, that trade actually might've happened. Straight up.
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I like how they made it so that the only two western teams will have to play an elimination game against each other, in the opening round.
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2021 NFL Hall of Fame Finalists
Jared Allen, DE
Ronde Barber, CB
Tony Boselli, OT
LeRoy Butler, Safety
Alan Faneca, OG
Torry Holt, WR
Calvin Johnson, WR
John Lynch, Safety
Peyton Manning, QB
Clay Matthews Jr., LB
Sam Mills, LB
Richard Seymour, DT/DE
Zach Thomas, LB
Reggie Wayne, WR
Charles Woodson, CB/S
Not sure on the rules, but I believe only 5 players max can make it, and 8 total including contributors/coaches.
Peyton Manning, Charles Woodson, and Calvin Johnson are all first year. All 3 should make it and be first-ballot if you ask me. Manning and Woodson are no-brainer locks to get in 1st ballot. Megatron should be that as well- but I'm sure some morons will use his lack of career length and winning against him- and ignore the fact the guy was the most physically dominant, imposing, and physically gifted WR the game has ever seen and clearly the best player at his position the entire time he was in the leauge.
Some of these guys shouldn't even be in the Hall of Fame discussion imo. Most of them are Hall of Very Good. Not Hall of Fame. If you have to even think about it- they don't belong imo. Jared Allen, Ronde Barber, Johny Lynch, Torry Holt, Richard Seymour, Reggie Wayne, Zach Thomas- don't even belong in the convo imo. Hall of Very Good. Not Hall of Fame.
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Jared Allen may not ever get into the hall, but I enjoyed watching him play
all-time ranks for Allen
Tied for #1 Safeties
Tied for #4 Tackles for loss
#12 for sacks
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I wouldn't rule out Jared Allen or Reggie Wayne out of hand.
But Manning, Johnson, Woodson, Faneca and Boselli all seem above them.
Boselli is the ultimate "not long enough" dude. He only played like 6 years, but was probably the best OL in the league for 4 of them
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CJ was spectacular and put up some pretty gawdy numbers but he retired @ 30.I know he broke Rice's single season receiving yds and has a few more records.He could still be playing
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Calvin will get in. not this year, but sometime
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watching the Bills circle the wagons
I like Rivers, but rooting for Diggs and the Bills
hoping for some entertaining games
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The Bills offense and the Colts defense both rank in the top 10 in scoring. According to NFL Media Research, Josh Allen was 4-0 vs. top 10 total defenses (LAR, LAC, SF, PIT) through the 2020 season
Colts offensive line/run game vs. Bills defense
The Bills defense finished the season ranked 17th against the run (119.6 rush ypg), but since Week 12 they have the fourth-best rushing defense allowing only 94 rushing yards per game. They will be tested with a Colts running game that was ranked 11th on the season (124.8 rush ypg) but since Week 9 they have been the fifth-best rushing offense with an average of 143.2 rushing yards per game.
This matchup features Stefon Diggs against his former Vikings teammate Xavier Rhodes. Diggs and Rhodes were teammates in Minnesota from 2015-2019 and Diggs has said that going up against him for years in practice has helped him be the player he is today. Diggs is the first Bills receiver to lead the NFL in receptions (127) and yards (1535) and the first in NFL history to do it in the first year with a new team.
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Bills almost blew it there
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TD Bills with 14 secs left in the half 14-10 Buffalo
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The Bills offense and the Colts defense both rank in the top 10 in scoring.
holy shit, how many TDS did the Colts defense score this season?
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Josh Allen is way better than I thought he would be coming out of college.
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@Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) , I see you don't post on the NFL thread often
I understand there's not much going on here, but you just didn't connect with the falcons early in life?
I understand the issues with the Bengals
or just don't give a rat's butt about Professional football?
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Josh Allen is way better than I thought he would be coming out of college.
not a believer in the Wyoming Cowboys???
I wouldn't blame you
similar to NFL QBs coming from North Dakota
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@Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) , I see you don't post on the NFL thread often
I have negligible interest in the NFL. I couldn't tell you who the best teams are this year without looking. The wife kindly allows me Saturdays. Sundays are for other things.
I once was somewhat interested, probably back in the 1990s, never a Bengals fan though.
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not a believer in the Wyoming Cowboys???
I wouldn't blame you
similar to NFL QBs coming from North Dakota
I thought Carson Wentz would suck in the NFL. Turns out he does.
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I think Carson Wentz in the right situation can play in the NFL
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I think Carson Wentz in the right situation can play in the NFL
well, we'll find out soon won't we, because he sure as hell is done in Philly.
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tough to thrive as a QB in Philly
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tough to thrive as a QB in Philly
Nick Foles did pretty good there.
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Urban Meyer reportedly with Jags owner on dudes yacht last night in Florida, and Urban is in process of assembling a staff. According to ESPN.
Would be a great hire for the Jags if it comes through. Might explain why he turned down Texas- he wants to try his hand at winning at the highest level.
Here's an idea. If you're the Jags do you offer your #1 overall and your other 1st round pick to the Texans and make a play at DeShaun Watson? I really like Trevor Lawrence and think he'll be great- but DeShaun Watson IS great. Right now. And he wants out of Houston.
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Nick Foles did pretty good there.
he should obviously take a pay cut and go back there
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Urban Meyer reportedly with Jags owner on dudes yacht last night in Florida, and Urban is in process of assembling a staff. According to ESPN.
Would be a great hire for the Jags if it comes through. Might explain why he turned down Texas- he wants to try his hand at winning at the highest level.
Here's an idea. If you're the Jags do you offer your #1 overall and your other 1st round pick to the Texans and make a play at DeShaun Watson? I really like Trevor Lawrence and think he'll be great- but DeShaun Watson IS great. Right now. And he wants out of Houston.
the question is... does Urban Meyer want DeShaun
if so, it's an easy decision
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the question is... does Urban Meyer want DeShaun
if so, it's an easy decision
I'm sure Urban would love the thought of taking over an NFL team with DeShaun Watson as his QB.
Watson is a top 5 NFL QB. He just lead the entire league in passing with 4,823 yards and threw for 33 TD's vs 7 INT's while completing 70% of his passes. And he did this after his idiot GM/Coach traded away arguably the best WR in football (DHop) for a ham sammich and a cup of coffee to Arizona.
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good review by the Bills
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That was a fumble and it looked pretty clear to me.
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no shit
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good win for the buffalo fans
always enjoy rooting against Pete the Cheat
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Bills - good for them,nodded off and caught the last 2 & 1/2 mins
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Rams are taking it to Seattle. Doing whatever they want on the ground and ramming it down Seattle's throat. I don't know why everyone thought Seattle was a serious contender this year. Apparently having an atrocious defense is a good thing heading into the playoffs? There are few teams in the league with a worse defense than Seattle.
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Bringing a whole new connotation to the phrase "getting rammed."
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Tampa’s secondary is legitimately horrible. Ranked 31st in the NFL this year I believe. Some no name scrub QB named Taylor Heinicke is picking them apart.
How can a team be so stout up front yet so putrid on the back end ?
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Tampa won’t make it to the Super Bowl, but it won’t be because Tom Brady is washed up. He’s not.
It’ll be because Bruce Arians is a mediocre nfl head coach, and their secondary is absolutely horrible.
Taylor Heineken- or whatever the f##% his name is- who Washington literally just picked up off the street from Dunkin Donuts- is dealing on their secondary. Just imagine what a real QB like Rodgers or Brees would do.
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Bucs need to fire Arians. This is a roster very close to a Super Bowl run. Get rid of Arians and let Brady pick the coach and you’ve got a great shot in 2021 at making a real Super Bowl run.
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So...uh...modern medicine
https://twitter.com/johnbreech/status/1348099257644023808?s=19
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This will be the Browns third consecutive playoff game vs the Squealers, dating clear back to when Belichick was the HC.
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So...uh...modern medicine
https://twitter.com/johnbreech/status/1348099257644023808?s=19
not really modern medicine. that was just a completely different era. people didn't eat right or take care of themselves back then like they do now. Blanda was probably crushing beers and chain smoking cigarettes at half-time, and was probably out all night the night before chasing broads at the bar with Joe Willie Namath.
Brady has been taking care of himself on his weird diet and drinking 10 gallons of water a day and going to bed by 9pm and getting 8-9 hrs of sleep every night since he met Alex Guerrero in 2004.
Turns out if you eat very healthy, get a lot of sleep, drink a lot of water, stay away from alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, partying, and shitty food - you tend to look better as you age.
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not really modern medicine. that was just a completely different era. people didn't eat right or take care of themselves back then like they do now. Blanda was probably crushing beers and chain smoking cigarettes at half-time, and was probably out all night the night before chasing broads at the bar with Joe Willie Namath.
TRUTH,that's just the way it was,like when I mentioned the Max Magee story pounding drinks before the Super Bowl.Only to find out from Bart Starr at 6:30 am Doyd Dowler was out and he was starting - can't make that shit up
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is Lamar Jackson the new Peyton Manning? Great in the regular season, but can't show up in the post-season and win a playoff game?
Peyton took the NFL by storm early on, won an MVP early on, but went 5 or 6 years straight of getting to the playoffs and playing like horseshit and getting bounced out round 1.
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terrible throw on the pick
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a couple pretty solid defenses
Dez is still an idiot
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This is fun football
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I was entertained
Titans, no offense in the 2nd half
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is Lamar Jackson the new Peyton Manning? Great in the regular season, but can't show up in the post-season and win a playoff game?
Peyton took the NFL by storm early on, won an MVP early on, but went 5 or 6 years straight of getting to the playoffs and playing like horseshit and getting bounced out round 1.
I mean this is his 2nd season as a starter, seems premature.
Manning didn't win an MVP til his 6th season, Lamar did in his 2nd, 1st as a starter.
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We'll see,Lamar's style I feel will catch up just a shorter shelf life with the contact.Mahomes can toss the ball consistently,so pocket passers still have their place
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da bears playing not to lose at the end of the half down by 4
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That dropped TD pass by #83 on Bears looms large.
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We'll see,Lamar's style I feel will catch up just a shorter shelf life with the contact.Mahomes can toss the ball consistently,so pocket passers still have their place
He doesn’t seem to embrace the contact though. He’s not like Cam, he seems pretty smart about the hits and going out of bounds and sliding. He’s also just so much faster than any other QB I’ve ever seen with the exception of Vick. They are the only two guys who were legitimately faster than all the other DBs, WRs, and RBs on the field. As long as he runs away from people and slides and goes out of bounds he can keep playing this way imo.
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I mean this is his 2nd season as a starter, seems premature.
Manning didn't win an MVP til his 6th season, Lamar did in his 2nd, 1st as a starter.
It was premature, and what I was suggesting was that if he didn’t win today- and they were down 10-0 to the Titans at one point- that the narrative would start to be that.
Lamar is the best QB the Ravens have ever had. And he’s definitely one of the top 5-8 QBs in the entire league. He’s got to win in the post-season to be considered the elite of the elite- and he just did that today with a huge comeback win.
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That dropped TD pass by #83 on Bears looms large.
Massive drop, especially for an offense that struggles to score anyway.
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da bears playing not to lose at the end of the half down by 4
Cower said just that during half time but that's obvious even to the casual viewer
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That dropped TD pass by #83 on Bears looms large.
That was a perfect toss you could not walk up and drop it in any better
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That was a perfect toss you could not walk up and drop it in any better
Yeah, shockingly Tribusky has been dropping some dimes out there. He’s definitely got talent. Just terribly inconsistent and maybe it’s not all on him- the Bears skill position weapons on offense honestly suck ass. I think only New England has worse WRs/RBs/TEs.
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Bring on the Browns. This one is over.
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watching Husker hoops until the Browns game
Huskers actually playing in the 2nd half
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I just turned on the Browns game. 21-0 in the first. Wtf?
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Steelers played better last week, on the road, resting all their starters
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well, that was fun
game over
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I bet the Browns money line. The Steelers were washed
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Pretty good first quarter...
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Steelers punting it, from the Cleveland 38, down 28. Fairly early surrender.
Ben is done, Conner is awful, they have no TE
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Steelers punting it, from the Cleveland 38, down 28. Fairly early surrender.
Ben is done, Conner is awful, they have no TE
Ben's body is shot. Connor was never going to be able to replace Bell. He's a back-up, not a starter. I'd say they don't have a legit #1 WR either. I really like Claypool, but he looks like a very good #2 to me. JuJu-Smith was a complete creation of Antonio Brown's dominance. Once Brown left, he's fallen off the map completely. The guy should get off TikTok and practice on improving his speed. He's too slow.
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Ebron seems decent
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Ebron seems decent
The king of drops?
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Things are getting a little more interesting in Pittsburgh...
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Mayfield has been pretty bad. The defense scored one, and set up another one at the 15. His one long play was a catch and run.
Chubb/Hunt have combined for 108 yards on 7.2 up, and yet have only 15 combined carries for some reason.
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Ballgame
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Chubb yards per carry going down
yards per catch going up!
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LOL, Ben with the least impressive 400 yard, 3 TD game I can recall
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LOL, Ben with the least impressive 400 yard, 3 TD game I can recall
I texted my buddy when it was 28-0 and said I bet Ben throws for 500 yards. They had to throw all night and Cleveland was playing soft coverage.
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I texted my buddy when it was 28-0 and said I bet Ben throws for 500 yards. They had to throw all night and Cleveland was playing soft coverage.
And there's your empty 500
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I bet the Browns money line. The Steelers were washed
I forgot how exhilarating pasting the Pierogi Munchers really is.Not since Joe Turkey introduced Bradshaw to the Stadium turf in Cleveland have I yelled so much.The Browns were w/o Bitonio,Conklin went out in the 2nd qtr,Dunn went down in the 3rd on the O-Line.The whole defensive backfield is replacements.I look forward to spanking the squeelers next year - TWICE.I'm perfectly content going 2-14 as long as it's taking them behind the woodshed.Ben couldn't get off his fat ass and acknowledge the opponent but then again with his rap sheet what should I have expected
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Chubb yards per carry going down
yards per catch going up!
My favorite Brown - say little do much.Thing is Hunt had a couple of runs just like him.Good interview after the game with Miles
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It’s like watching that kid on the playground take on the bully. Can’t not watch.
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My favorite Brown - say little do much.Thing is Hunt had a couple of runs just like him.Good interview after the game with Miles
One of my favorite players of all time. He is a class individual, one who youngsters should emulate, incredibly hard worker, traversed a killer knee injury that I saw in person.
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It’s like watching that kid on the playground take on the bully. Can’t not watch.
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Yeah, that was Cleveland's Super Bowl. Everything else is just gravy. Even if there is another Ernest Byner fumble or Elway drive or whatever else, I don't care.
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One of my favorite players of all time. He is a class individual, one who youngsters should emulate, incredibly hard worker, traversed a killer knee injury that I saw in person.
unlike Hunt, who was run out of KC for being unclassy
oh well, seems Hunt may have learned his lesson, if so, good for him
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Mayfield has been pretty bad.
Which game did you watch?
21/34 285yds 3 TD 0 Int 115.3 Passer rating
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I forgot how exhilarating pasting the Pierogi Munchers really is.Not since Joe Turkey introduced Bradshaw to the Stadium turf in Cleveland have I yelled so much.The Browns were w/o Bitonio,Conklin went out in the 2nd qtr,Dunn went down in the 3rd on the O-Line.The whole defensive backfield is replacements.I look forward to spanking the squeelers next year - TWICE.I'm perfectly content going 2-14 as long as it's taking them behind the woodshed.Ben couldn't get off his fat ass and acknowledge the opponent but then again with his rap sheet what should I have expected
There was nothing better than watching Big Ben crying tears after the game
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Doug Pederson fired from the Eagles. Kind of surprised honestly. I know they sucked hard this year, but he took them to the playoffs in 4 of his 5 seasons and won a super bowl.
I’d sure as hell take him as a Co-OC at Michigan lol. Let him call the plays and run the show, just retain Gattis for his crootin chops and make him go coach WRs- what he really does best.
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Doug Pederson fired from the Eagles. Kind of surprised honestly. I know they sucked hard this year, but he took them to the playoffs in 4 of his 5 seasons and won a super bowl.
I’d sure as hell take him as a Co-OC at Michigan lol. Let him call the plays and run the show, just retain Gattis for his crootin chops and make him go coach WRs- what he really does best.
tough
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tough
NFL is cut throat. Belichik better find some weapons on offense and a QB next year or his seat will start to warm up.
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Oh man, I still have nightmares about the year that Pederson was the Browns QB. I don't think he threw a single pass to a guy that was more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage.
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C'mon he completed a few to the opponent
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Yeah, Tim Couch and Ty Detmer suffered season ending injuries right out of the gate, and then it was the Doug Pederson show the rest of the year. Even with his noodle arm, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Of course he missed a game too, when we were treated to some guy named Spergon Wynn.
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Spergon Wynn??
I thought the vikings were the only team to give him s check
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Spergon Wynn??
I thought the vikings were the only team to give him s check
Spergon Wynn played like D2 or D3 college ball and completed 47% of his passes for his college career. And he still got drafted ahead of Tom Brady.
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And he still got drafted ahead of Tom Brady.
C'mon we're all guilty of that faux pas save,Tom's mom
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true, but Spergon Wynn??
should have never been given a free agent tryout
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true, but Spergon Wynn??
should have never been given a free agent tryout
yeah...this.
Brady was a good college QB. He completed 62%+ his college career, had a TD to INT ratio of 2.5:1, lead 3 big 4th QTR comebacks his 5th year, and was a solid player at the highest level (FBS-P5) of the sport.
Spergon Wynn played D2 small ball and completed 47% for his college career and threw more INT's than TD's in his college career.
Forget the fact that he was drafted ahead of Brady- the fact that he was drafted at all is mind blowing.
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Well, he was FCS, not D2. And he did start at Minnesota before transferring. But yeah, the numbers were not pretty. 5.1 ypa as a senior?
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Well, he was FCS, not D2. And he did start at Minnesota before transferring. But yeah, the numbers were not pretty. 5.1 ypa as a senior?
I thought he transferred from Minnesota because he lost his job? Everything outside of the P5 is division 2 to me lol.
Regardless, he was a terrible college QB playing against low level competition. If that's not a huge red flag, don't know what is. Mind blowing he got drafted at all.
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I think Wynn was FCS, he played at Texas State which is in the Sunbelt now, iirc (Edit: ELA confirmed while I was typing). But yeah, he was horrible. His one start with the Browns was a 48-0 loss which was by far their worst loss in a 3-13 season.
The first two wins that year were with Tim Couch against the Bengals and the Steelers. "So then who was Doug Pederson's lone win against?" you ask? Why Bill Belichick's New England Patriots, of course.
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true, but Spergon Wynn??
Were looking for the needle in the haystack just picked the wrong needle
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I thought he transferred from Minnesota because he lost his job? Everything outside of the P5 is division 2 to me lol.
Regardless, he was a terrible college QB playing against low level competition. If that's not a huge red flag, don't know what is. Mind blowing he got drafted at all.
must have run a great 40 time and aced the wonderlic
no arm talent
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMfaavF1R3E&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=NFLScrimmage
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Were looking for the needle in the haystack just picked the wrong needle
Hell, I don't even think they were looking in the right haystack
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An alternate universe where the Browns take Brady, and the Patriots take Wynn? Would Brady have been a bust, while Wynn would have become the GOAT?
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Are y'all just trolling me? I have to think that you're all just concocting an elaborate hoax to get me to google Spergon Wynn and it's going to take me to something horrible.
What is (or was) a Spergon Wynn?
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I read a bit on the Browns and their win because of Chubb, but I gather they have little chance in the next game.
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Are y'all just trolling me? I have to think that you're all just concocting an elaborate hoax to get me to google Spergon Wynn and it's going to take me to something horrible.
What is (or was) a Spergon Wynn?
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I read a bit on the Browns and their win because of Chubb, but I gather they have little chance in the next game.
A one legged man in an ass kicking contest.Like the Buckeyes their DB corp are thin,Ward,Williams,Johnson are all out.Now look who Mahomey is throwing to Watkins,Hill,Hardman and TE Kelce.It's fooking madness,with Vernon done at DE Chiefs just double team Garret and they're good.
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What is (or was) a Spergon Wynn?
https://youtu.be/GHZ6m-zkulw
Oh shit that's Serge,my bad
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An alternate universe where the Browns take Brady, and the Patriots take Wynn? Would Brady have been a bust, while Wynn would have become the GOAT?
well, Brady may have busted
busted legs, busted arms, busted head
no chance Wynn was GOAT of any type
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A one legged man in an ass kicking contest.Like the Buckeyes their DB corp are thin,Ward,Williams,Johnson are all out.Now look who Mahomey is throwing to Watkins,Hill,Hardman and TE Kelce.It's fooking madness,with Vernon done at DE Chiefs just double team Garret and they're good.
I am going to say it right now, the Browns cover the spread and the game won't be decided either way until late in the 4th quarter. The Browns' offense will score against KC's defense.
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Sounds like Urban to the Jags is a done deal. If he has complete control- which you’d have to think that’s the only way he’d accept the job- I think that’s a great fit.
Trevor Lawerence, another 1st round pick, two 2nd round picks, two 3rd round picks, and all that cap space? They can get a lot better in a hurry.
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I am going to say it right now, the Browns cover the spread and the game won't be decided either way until late in the 4th quarter. The Browns' offense will score against KC's defense.
Browns absolutely have a shot in that game. Browns have an incredible run game. KC defense can be had. Control the clock, run it down their throats and keep the ball out of Mahomes hands. Plus Browns have one of the best edge pass rushers in the entire league on defense in Myles Garrett. If Garrett shows up he can make Mahomes uncomfortable. And really that’s the only way to beat the pass offense in today’s game. You have to disrupt the timing and hit the QB every snap.
That’s how the Rams won vs Seattle. Akers ran it down their throat and Aaron Donald just absolutely destroyed Seattle’s OL and was hitting Russell Wilson or freeing stuff up for other guys to hit him every snap.
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An alternate universe where the Browns take Brady, and the Patriots take Wynn? Would Brady have been a bust, while Wynn would have become the GOAT?
Nah. Spergon Wynn would’ve sucked and washed out anywhere he went.
Brady definitely wouldn’t have become the GOAT in Cleveland. He probably would’ve gotten injured and broken like every Browns QB of that era. The marriage between him and Belichik was a match made in football heaven. For both of those guys. Bill wasn’t exactly a hot commodity before Brady. He had been fired in Cleveland after 4 losing seasons out of 5, and he was 5-13 with a $100 million pro bowl QB and on the hot seat in NE until the pro bowl QB got his life destroyed by Mo Lewis and Brady fell out of heaven and the rest is history.
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Not sure what to think about the Urbs in the NFL. But hey it should be fun.
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not as much fun as Michigan, but more fun than at Texas
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Not sure what to think about the Urbs in the NFL. But hey it should be fun.
Wonder how much of the OSU staff he takes with him.
I think it’s a great fit. Urban has shown he’s phenomenal at spotting talent. Both assistant coaching and Player talent. He’ll get great coaches to work beside him and as long as he’s given full control and gets to pick the players in draft/fa he will absolutely turn it around.
Biggest battle in NFL is the QB. He’s about to get Trevor Lawerence- who all the NFL scouts/draft gurus say is the best QB prospect since Andrew Luck and maybe the 2nd best since Elway (behind Luck).
He’s got a great chance to crush it in the NFL imo.
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Biggest battle in NFL is the QB. He’s about to get Trevor Lawerence- who all the NFL scouts/draft gurus say is the best QB prospect since Andrew Luck and maybe the 2nd best since Elway (behind Luck).
he could take justin fields
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Wonder how much of the OSU staff he takes with him.
I think it’s a great fit. Urban has shown he’s phenomenal at spotting talent. Both assistant coaching and Player talent. He’ll get great coaches to work beside him and as long as he’s given full control and gets to pick the players in draft/fa he will absolutely turn it around.
Biggest battle in NFL is the QB. He’s about to get Trevor Lawerence- who all the NFL scouts/draft gurus say is the best QB prospect since Andrew Luck and maybe the 2nd best since Elway (behind Luck).
He’s got a great chance to crush it in the NFL imo.
I’ll be surprised if he takes anybody of significance from the Ohio State staff. I didn’t see One Internet article already it says he’s taking Charlie Strong from Alabama’s defense of staff. They didn’t say what role
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I’ll be surprised if he takes anybody of significance from the Ohio State staff. I didn’t see One Internet article already it says he’s taking Charlie Strong from Alabama’s defense of staff. They didn’t say what role
I could see him taking Mattison, Hartline, Pantoni, and Marotti. Urbs goes way back with Mattison, Pantoni, and Marotti, and Hartline is a rising star WRs coach who played WR in the league.
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Also: now it makes sense why he turned down Texas. He had the NFL itch. Can’t blame him. It’s the highest level of competition and also- no recruiting and kissing the asses of 17 year olds 24/7, 365. Way more down time in the off-season.
Being an NFL head coach is harder in some ways- but also a lot easier in other ways. No year round recruiting of freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior high school players and real down time during the off-season is one of them.
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I could see him taking Mattison, Hartline, Pantoni, and Marotti. Urbs goes way back with Mattison, Pantoni, and Marotti, and Hartline is a rising star WRs coach who played WR in the league.
Mariotti already let everyone know he is staying.
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he could take justin fields
Seems like Lawerence is a lock. If he doesn’t take Lawerence they’ll work out some blockbuster trade.
I really like Fields, but Lawerence is a not brainer.
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I'd take Fields. but, I might be wrong
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It's not just Fields vs Lawrence, it'd be Fields and a TON of trade value to move down VS Lawrence.
For a team as bad as Jacksonville, that's what they should do, obviously.
So they probably won't.
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It's not just Fields vs Lawrence, it'd be Fields and a TON of trade value to move down VS Lawrence.
For a team as bad as Jacksonville, that's what they should do, obviously.
So they probably won't.
Depends on the offer they get and what Urban thinks of Lawrence. If Urban feels like Lawerence is can’t miss and is THE guy and a true franchise QB- then no way he gives him up for any amount.
Franchise QB on a rookie deal- there nothing you can trade for that that comes remotely close to equal value.
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In the past 20 years, Pitt has had Aaron Donald, darrelle revis, Larry Fitzgerald, Curtis Martin, and Joe Flacco. 4 Hall of famers, who are arguably the best at their position at a time, and a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and their best season is like 7-5
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I know the NFL is all about uniformity, but to learn the top offense scores 32 ppg and the best defense allows 18 made me say "WOW!".....that's a reeeally tight range.
Are they still really anal about sock height? lol
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In the past 20 years, Pitt has had Aaron Donald, darrelle revis, Larry Fitzgerald, Curtis Martin, and Joe Flacco. 4 Hall of famers, who are arguably the best at their position at a time, and a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and their best season is like 7-5
And you didn’t even mention LaSean McCoy who at one time was a top 5 RB in the league. It’s amazing the talent Pitt has put in the league with no better results than they have had.
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In the past 20 years, Pitt has had Aaron Donald, darrelle revis, Larry Fitzgerald, Curtis Martin, and Joe Flacco. 4 Hall of famers, who are arguably the best at their position at a time, and a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and their best season is like 7-5
... My friend, Curtis Martin left college in 1994.
Otherwise, it speaks to the beauty of the sport. One guy doesn't change much. And one side of the ball doesn't often change much. A shutdown corner is good, but without other pieces, he's not gonna make a defense.
And shoot, Curtis Martin, he wasn't even that good of a college running back.
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Justin Tucker might want to start updating his resume.
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Tucker reminds me of a story like 5 yrs back that I saw on Sports Center .Where some collegiate kicker hit the left upright but the defense was offsides so he got to re-kick.Then he hit the right,B2B - what are the odds?
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Browns need to find more defense
Chubb needs to catch the ball
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Man, poor Browns.
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The last time the Bills played in the AFC Championship Game, Joe Montana was the opposing QB for the Chiefs.
All of my in-laws grew up around Buffalo. While many of them live in Los Angeles now, they proudly remain part of Bills Mafia. So I was getting a steady stream of very anxious and happy text messages last night.
Taking the Lamar Hunt Trophy out of Arrowhead next week may be a bit too much to ask of Josh Allen and Co.
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Mahomes just went off the field looking pretty woozy.
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Hey Chad Henne still in the league
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it's a game
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Mahomes out. Cleveland has it down to a one score game. Ball game in KC.
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Even with Mahomes out I was really surprised Reid elected for the FG on 4th and 1. I thought he had a chance to step on the Browns’ throat and didn’t do it.
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I’d love to see Cleveland win here and next week and make it to super bowl. Fans of that team sure as hell deserve it.
Also- could just be more confirmation that we are indeed in the end of days.
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Hell of a catch by Hill.
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I’d love to see Cleveland win here and next week and make it to super bowl. Fans of that team sure as hell deserve it.
Also- could just be more confirmation that we are indeed in the end of days.
😂😂😂😂
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... My friend, Curtis Martin left college in 1994.
Otherwise, it speaks to the beauty of the sport. One guy doesn't change much. And one side of the ball doesn't often change much. A shutdown corner is good, but without other pieces, he's not gonna make a defense.
And shoot, Curtis Martin, he wasn't even that good of a college running back.
Martin was really good. The team was really bad and gained all the yards all by himself. Then he blew out his ACL in game 2 of his sr year a year where he probably would have gained at least 1600. As far as talent goes him and conner are 1A and 1B (McCoy had the better career and you could make the case Lewis did too but IMO they didn't have the natural ability)
Despite the mediocrity they've produced some players that are a joy to watch.
Pitt's problem is that they've always been fatally flawed in one aspect of the game. This year, no running game, previous years a sieve of a D in the Peterman/Conner years. Before that no QB. Walt Harris never had an OL. They've just never put a complete team on the field.
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Oh boy, here we go.
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Henne still sucks
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Chad Henne against Ohio what could go wrong
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I didn't know he still played. Lol.
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I didn't know he still played. Lol.
He’s been a back-up in KC for awhile now.
He always had really good arm talent- just never had it upstairs. He read things too slow or not at all- the great QBs process a lot of information very quickly and make good split second decisions- Henne always struggled with that.
I thought he was going to develop after that great true Frosh season- but he never got any better at all. Just stayed the same.
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At least Chad Henne finally got a win over Ohio
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This stinks - Lamar Jackson hurt and now Mahomes....I'd like to see teams win straight up, best vs best. We all know injuries are a thing, but still.
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Martin was really good. The team was really bad and gained all the yards all by himself. Then he blew out his ACL in game 2 of his sr year a year where he probably would have gained at least 1600. As far as talent goes him and conner are 1A and 1B (McCoy had the better career and you could make the case Lewis did too but IMO they didn't have the natural ability)
Despite the mediocrity they've produced some players that are a joy to watch.
Pitt's problem is that they've always been fatally flawed in one aspect of the game. This year, no running game, previous years a sieve of a D in the Peterman/Conner years. Before that no QB. Walt Harris never had an OL. They've just never put a complete team on the field.
I can’t disagree more on McCoy. He had an elusiveness that I’ve seen in very few backs. Before I knew he was I was watching Pitt play Navy during his freshman year. This was back when Slaton and Ray Rice were still in the BE. After watching that game I remember thinking he was better than either of them.
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LOL at getting fired up and falling short...
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I can’t disagree more on McCoy. He had an elusiveness that I’ve seen in very few backs. Before I knew he was I was watching Pitt play Navy during his freshman year. This was back when Slaton and Ray Rice were still in the BE. After watching that game I remember thinking he was better than either of them.
I think he meant productivity-wise.
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Wow.
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LOL at getting fired up and falling short...
Dude hasn't played since like 2010
Browns still gonna Browns
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Heck of a game
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I think he meant productivity-wise.
He said as far as talent Martin and Connor are 1A and 1B. I just don’t see it, especially in regards to Connor.
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Someone will enjoy drafting Kadarius Toney - he's a video game joystick guy like Hill. He's nowhere near as fast as Hill - he's probably not even the fastest Gator, but anytime Florida wanted to, they could get it to him from the slot. Covering him is not possible.
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He said as far as talent Martin and Connor are 1A and 1B. I just don’t see it, especially in regards to Connor.
I thought I remembered him using the phrase "not as good as," my mistake.
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With all things considered the Browns can hold their heads up.Hope Mahomes is healthy next week.With the Squeelers/Patriots out no real bad guys.Bills/Chiefs coin flip,Packers peaking and looking to get back
BTW great call by Reid
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packers are the bad guys
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Like the Chiefs but hate Tyreke Hill - should be doing time
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Like the Chiefs but hate Tyreke Hill - should be doing time
Yes, but also shouldn't Kareem Hunt?
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Someone will enjoy drafting Kadarius Toney - he's a video game joystick guy like Hill. He's nowhere near as fast as Hill - he's probably not even the fastest Gator, but anytime Florida wanted to, they could get it to him from the slot. Covering him is not possible.
Hill's speed is what differentiates him. We've seen Harvin, Samuels, guys like that who are unguardable in the slot. What separates Hill, is you can't bring a safety down on him, because he'll just blow by you over the top.
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Not sure what he did in KC but he got bad press in Cleveland.Hill broke his 4 yr olds arm
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Maybe I spoke too soon. Mahomes couldn't have answered a 10 count there even if he wanted to, and even if he goes next week he won't be as effective.
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He looked to be running back to the locker room OK.I thought he may hve hurt his neck more from what I saw
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Yeah, that's an odd takedown to be concussed on. Definitely looked like a neck thing, but then he was all woozy.
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I can’t disagree more on McCoy. He had an elusiveness that I’ve seen in very few backs. Before I knew he was I was watching Pitt play Navy during his freshman year. This was back when Slaton and Ray Rice were still in the BE. After watching that game I remember thinking he was better than either of them.
McCoy was very very good and putting him at #3 isn't really a slight and IMO he's very close. Obviously McCoy had a better NFL career than Conner has (as I think injuries have hampered Conner's speed/power and he's always in 3-4WR sets these days).
However Conner just had otherwordly talent, he gained 1700+ on 6 yards a carry his Soph year and was only at best 80% for his sr. year and still was awesome. The 1st guy never tackled him and he had breakaway speed in the open field. Martin, he's hard to remember as he toiled on bad teams and there are no youtube highlights from his time at pitt. Trust me tho he was so freaking talented (he actually didn't play HS football until his SR year which is how he found his way to Pitt).
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Hill's speed is what differentiates him. We've seen Harvin, Samuels, guys like that who are unguardable in the slot. What separates Hill, is you can't bring a safety down on him, because he'll just blow by you over the top.
Interested to see how Rondale Moore does in the NFL. He's got all the speed and moves of Hill, and very well might be harder to tackle.
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Not sure what he did in KC but he got bad press in Cleveland.Hill broke his 4 yr olds arm
I believe he punched a woman in the face, knocked her out cold, then when she was down, kicked her.
That's why KC cut him, but then Cleveland picked him up. I actually think it may have occurred outside a Cleveland bar.
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In Cleveland,he didn't kick her evidently she was tagging along(not invited) he shoved her with his foot - this was on camera in a hallway.Not sure of a bar incident
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Holy Marshon Lattimore
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We've got a barn burner
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That had to feel good for Winston.
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Yeah, that's an odd takedown to be concussed on. Definitely looked like a neck thing, but then he was all woozy.
I think he went forehead first into the ground.
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Probably not going to win a meaningless regular season game with three turnovers on your own side of the field, let alone a playoff game
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Probably not going to win a meaningless regular season game with three turnovers on your own side of the field, let alone a playoff game
EDIT: 4
Granted this one backed the Bucs all the way up to their own 48
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Tampa Defense with the win
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Tom Brady is one game away from playing in his 10th Super Bowl. That’s mind blowing.
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And Bruce Arians isn't the plug that has been suggested.Was reading up on him and the QBs who've played under him all respected him - as he apparently hasn't made things easy on them either.He was "Coach of the Year" 8 yrs back when Chuck Pagano was sidelined with cancer in Indy - then left for the AZ HC job.He got to the playoffs there with 11-5,13-3 in '14-'15 losing to the Panthers both times once in the NFC CG.The guy can coach
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And Bruce Arians isn't the plug that has been suggested.Was reading up on him and the QBs who've played under him all respected him - as he apparently hasn't made things easy on them either.He was "Coach of the Year" 8 yrs back when Chuck Pagano was sidelined with cancer in Indy - then left for the AZ HC job.He got to the playoffs there with 11-5,13-3 in '14-'15 losing to the Panthers both times once in the NFC CG.The guy can coach
Always thought Arians was the coach who you'll win games w/ and your QB will break down. To his credit he's toned down the 7 step dropbacks w/ Brady.
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And Bruce Arians isn't the plug that has been suggested.Was reading up on him and the QBs who've played under him all respected him - as he apparently hasn't made things easy on them either.He was "Coach of the Year" 8 yrs back when Chuck Pagano was sidelined with cancer in Indy - then left for the AZ HC job.He got to the playoffs there with 11-5,13-3 in '14-'15 losing to the Panthers both times once in the NFC CG.The guy can coach
Yeah, they had to break up him and Ben, because they both loved those deep dropbacks, and Ben probably would have been out of the league about 5 years earlier if he kept getting hit like he was. But it was really successful in the short term.
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Well if Baker is the Browns QB of the future, I do think they can win w/ him, its just at the right price. He seems like a mid-tier QB who could possibly break into the top 10 1-2 times over the next decade.
Say the browns offer him 4/80M or 5/100M w/ 50M guaranteed as an extension. Quietly mention if he doesn't take it they'll take steps to solidify the position after his contract expires. The offense is stacked, arguably the best supporting cast outside of KC, any QB would love to play for it and it could stay stacked if you don't break the bank on a QB. Baker improved a lot this year, but his teammates made him a lot better.
You have draft/FA that could possibly have Carr, Stafford, Ryan, Darnold, Jordan Love (maybe a No.2 to GB, Rodgers probably got a few years left, and he might be ready by '22), 1-2 1st round QBs falling to them (Lance), Meathead (maybe serviceable if you get him really really cheap, but prob not), Rivers? (if Indy drafts a guy) etc.
I think the Browns are in the rare position where they have some leverage on a QB. After all say he's a FA this year. If you offered Baker 4/80M this year and dared a team to match it, who would? Just because he might as good and/or slightly better as Kirk Cousins doesn't mean you have to pay him like Cousins.
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Oddly enough, Baker seems to have that sort of really personable demeanor that shows well on camera for endorsements. Those insurance commercials are really funny.
If he's playing the long game, he might see how some players (Brady, Brees) have become respected for getting good contracts, but not being in the "make me the highest paid player in the league at my position" pissing match, leaving a lot more salary cap available for their GMs to build winning organizations around them.
Seems like it could be win-win. Baker looks humble and like a team player, the team gets to actually spend cap on his supporting cast, and he'll make it up on the back end with endorsements which is only bolstered by seeming even more likable as a "team" guy rather than a "pay me" guy.
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Baker - Humble?:D well he's trying his best,I do like him,reminds me a little of Favre - high risk/reward.The only head scratcher(for the Browns) yesterday going away from the best tandum of RBs in the 1st half.Chubb had a few uncharacteristic drops but he came around later,Hunt should have been implimented much earlier.Chubb avg over 5 YPC and Hunt just under 6.Couple of LSU DBs have been no-shows Greedy Williams suposedly nerve damage and Grant Delpit torn achilles who won the Thorpe Award in 2019.Browns will load up on teh Defensive side of the ball in the off season
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I think the Browns are in the rare position where they have some leverage on a QB. After all say he's a FA this year. If you offered Baker 4/80M this year and dared a team to match it, who would? Just because he might as good and/or slightly better as Kirk Cousins doesn't mean you have to pay him like Cousins.
Yes...but it just takes one. I don't imagine Minnesota was bidding against anyone other than themselves in paying Cousins.
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For that contract absolutely - it's just getting too far out of hand.Look what happened to Baltimore after they beat the 49ers 7 yrs back.Emptied the vaults for Flacco and lost how many studs around him
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Yes...but it just takes one. I don't imagine Minnesota was bidding against anyone other than themselves in paying Cousins.
I'm sure Cousins' agent caused the Vikings to believe there was a bidding war.
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I'm sure Cousins' agent caused the Vikings to believe there was a bidding war.
Sure earned his commission there
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Sure earned his commission there
Propaganda Minister material there
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Cousins did have a good year for the Vikes
too bad it happened the first season Zimmer had enough injuries on defense to cause that side of the ball to SUCK!
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Where does Championship Sunday rank amongst your favorite days for sports? It’s up there for me. It isn’t the first two days of March Madness but it might be second. Second used to be January 1 bowl games but that isn’t quite the same anymore. Championship Sunday is above Super Bowl Sunday, though. At least for me.
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I still prefer January 1st bowl games
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Where does Championship Sunday rank amongst your favorite days for sports? It’s up there for me. It isn’t the first two days of March Madness but it might be second. Second used to be January 1 bowl games but that isn’t quite the same anymore. Championship Sunday is above Super Bowl Sunday, though. At least for me.
Eh. I'm clearly so excited about it that I scheduled a round of golf for 10:10 AM (games come on at 12:05 PM here).
I might be more excited if any team I cared about was still in contention. Maybe if it was Saints/Rams I'd care.
But I'm stuck between trying to decide who I want to lose more between the Packers [I grew up a Bears fan / Packers hater] and Tom Brady [hate because he's just Tom Brady], and trying to decide if I can even come up with a rooting interest in a Bills/KC matchup.
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oh, come on man, you hate the Packers enough!
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I don't have a dog in the fight either, but I'm interested in the fact that it's some of the last football I'm going to see before August
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oh, come on man, you hate the Packers enough!
Considering there are no fans in the stands, I feel less guilty rooting for a meteor. Maybe during the pregame QB handshake
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Considering there are no fans in the stands, I feel less guilty rooting for a meteor. Maybe during the pregame QB handshake
Well you know if Brady loses, there won't be a postgame QB handshake. #soreloser
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Eh. I'm clearly so excited about it that I scheduled a round of golf for 10:10 AM (games come on at 12:05 PM here).
I might be more excited if any team I cared about was still in contention. Maybe if it was Saints/Rams I'd care.
But I'm stuck between trying to decide who I want to lose more between the Packers [I grew up a Bears fan / Packers hater] and Tom Brady [hate because he's just Tom Brady], and trying to decide if I can even come up with a rooting interest in a Bills/KC matchup.
No, I get it. The thing is, it’s not like I’m some NFL junkie either. The first two days of the NCAA Tournament is appointment viewing for me, even to the point that it isn’t unusual for me to take vacation days (especially when WVU is in it) to watch it. Championship Sunday isn’t nearly to that level, but I do genuinely look forward to watching the games. It probably has something to do with the fact that I don’t have to worry in January about playing golf, or washing cars, or mowing grass, or raking leaves. Might as well climb under a blanket and watch some football.
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I'll stick with Lake Erie and pull for the Bills I guess.
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rooting for the Bills
I'm surrounded by too many obnoxious Chiefs fans
and when you're surrounded by Chiefs, NOBODY circles the wagons like the Bills
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Considering there are no fans in the stands, I feel less guilty rooting for a meteor. Maybe during the pregame QB handshake
That's just mean to the meteor,how about mother earth having a quake.These pesky people are really shyting things up and she's had it.I don't 'Hate" any of these left.Go Bills,I'm in League with fellow Erieites
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I'm surrounded by too many obnoxious Chiefs fans
Pffft nothing next to Squeeler Fans or Patriots Partisans(Massholes)
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Who is most likely going to be the next Patriots? I know the obvious answer is "no one," but if you had to chose the next dominant franchise for the next 10-15 years, who would you say it was? The Chiefs? Brady will eventually be gone, Brees, too. The Rams? Roethelisberger will be gone. The Browns? Is that insanity?
What do you guys think? I don't know enough about it.
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KC with that offense could make a dent if their playmakers/QB return and stay healthy.Not sure we'll see the likes of Brady again for a very lo-o-ong time.Or Belichick for that matter
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That's just mean to the meteor,how about mother earth having a quake.These pesky people are really shyting things up and she's had it.I don't 'Hate" any of these left.Go Bills,I'm in League with fellow Erieites
https://youtu.be/UsoYwysCdfY
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I'd go with the Chiefs
that's another reason I'm rooting again em
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Yeah, the Mahomes / Reid matchup is dynamite, as long as they can keep the cap space to keep paying the supporting cast on O--and at least a competent defense.
The Pats did it by a very moneyball approach rather than loading up on stars, which allowed them to maximize their cap to have talent across the roster. Ditch a guy when they get a little too old or a little too expensive, find someone wanting that guy as a trade, and get draft picks to bring in new cheap talent and keep the pipeline full.
Can KC manage the roster as well as the Pats? If so, that's my money for a potential dynasty. Mahomes has the talent, Reid's a great coach, and you can build around that partnership.
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I'd go with the Chiefs
that's another reason I'm rooting again em
If the Bills don't win it all then the Pack,simply because KC should be back in the forseeable future.And Rodgers not so much
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Yeah, the Mahomes / Reid matchup is dynamite, as long as they can keep the cap space to keep paying the supporting cast on O--and at least a competent defense.
The Pats did it by a very moneyball approach rather than loading up on stars, which allowed them to maximize their cap to have talent across the roster. Ditch a guy when they get a little too old or a little too expensive, find someone wanting that guy as a trade, and get draft picks to bring in new cheap talent and keep the pipeline full.
Can KC manage the roster as well as the Pats? If so, that's my money for a potential dynasty. Mahomes has the talent, Reid's a great coach, and you can build around that partnership.
They also benefited from the old CBA where the top draft picks (which they never had) ate up so much money, and Brady always accepting less than market value
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Haskins to the Squealers...
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Haskins to the Squealers...
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He might actually be able to turn his career around there.
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Oh man, that would be the most aggravating scenario imaginable!
Haskins punting the Browns and Bengals collective heads over the Moon for the next ten years or so, just like Big Ben?
:-[
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Who is most likely going to be the next Patriots? I know the obvious answer is "no one," but if you had to chose the next dominant franchise for the next 10-15 years, who would you say it was? The Chiefs? Brady will eventually be gone, Brees, too. The Rams? Roethelisberger will be gone. The Browns? Is that insanity?
What do you guys think? I don't know enough about it.
I used to say DeShaun Watson will single handedly drag your 6-10 team to 10-6. While I think Watson is great, Mahomes is better and has good offensive talent everywhere plus a great coach.
It'll be 10-13 wins for them for at least the next 5-6 years minimum.
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Where does Championship Sunday rank amongst your favorite days for sports? It’s up there for me. It isn’t the first two days of March Madness but it might be second. Second used to be January 1 bowl games but that isn’t quite the same anymore. Championship Sunday is above Super Bowl Sunday, though. At least for me.
Divisionals to me are the best week of Shield football however championship sunday is much much better than the SB.
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Oh man, that would be the most aggravating scenario imaginable!
Haskins punting the Browns and Bengals collective heads over the Moon for the next ten years or so, just like Big Ben?
:-[
The worm is turning - screw the squeelers
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Reports are that Mahomes has been practicing. If he plays- think that's an automatic W for the Chiefs.
Bucs vs Packers is the far more interesting game to me. Both based on match-ups and narrative. Could honestly see it going either way. Packers base a lot of that offense off the run game and working the play-action passes off the run game. Well, Tampa just happens to have the best run defense in the NFL and their monster interior DL Vita Vea has come off IR last week and could see snaps in this game. Anything they get out of Vita Vea could just make that run defense even better- which in turn could hurt the Green Bay passing offense- which in turn is heavily predicated on hitting long play-action passes- which in turn really only work when the run game is clicking.
I think I like Tampa, but it's a coin flip. Rodgers is playing at a super high level all-season, but so has Brady the last month of the season. Being at home in the cold in Lambeau certainly helps the Packers, but Tampa just has more talent on the roster 1-53, in my opinion. Tampa has better RB's, they have better WR's, they have better TE's, they have better DL's- and they are getting Vita Vea back, they have better LB's. And while I think Green Bay definitely has far better CB's- I think it's basically a wash at safety. Green Bay has a better OL when healthy- but their best OL by far Bakhtiari is out- and Tampa's OL has actually kicked it into high gear the last month of the season- especially the rookie tackle Tristan Wirfs- neutralizing arguably two of the best 5 defensive fronts in the entire NFL in Washington and then New Orleans. Green Bay's defense has improved over the season- but it is nowhere near the level of those defenses- not even close.
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I like Brady and I think he has played very well this year. Rodgers is definitely a notch better. This is probably his best year as a pro.
Last week I liked the Bucs as Brady was a much better QB than broken down Brees, even though the Saints had the better overall team. This week I like the Packers for the same reason in addition to the best home field advantage in football. That is somewhat neutralized by Brady being a seasoned cold weather QB. I could see any result, but I'm leaning slightly to the Packers.
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The Pats did it by a very moneyball approach rather than loading up on stars, which allowed them to maximize their cap to have talent across the roster. Ditch a guy when they get a little too old or a little too expensive, find someone wanting that guy as a trade, and get draft picks to bring in new cheap talent and keep the pipeline full.
That's what ended up killing the Pats. Their draft pics were busts.
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I like Brady and I think he has played very well this year. Rodgers is definitely a notch better. This is probably his best year as a pro.
Last week I liked the Bucs as Brady was a much better QB than broken down Brees, even though the Saints had the better overall team. This week I like the Packers for the same reason in addition to the best home field advantage in football. That is somewhat neutralized by Brady being a seasoned cold weather QB. I could see any result, but I'm leaning slightly to the Packers.
Rodgers is definitely a more talented, more well-rounded QB that can hurt you by picking up first downs with his legs on the scramble and also extending plays and throwing accurate darts while on the move. Brady ain't picking up first downs with his legs, and he can't throw accurate darts on the run across his body without his feet being set like Rodgers. Rodgers is far more talented. He's always been that. What has separated Brady from Rodgers are Brady's intangibles, leadership, killer instinct, his will, his ability to read and manipulate defenses and get in and out of plays at the line of scrimmage- really only guy who did that at a level better than Brady was Peyton- and also his ability to perform at the absolute highest level in the clutch, under pressure in tough situations in the biggest games. The man has 6 Super Bowl championships with 6 game winning drives in the 4th QTR/OT. That is impossibly great.
Rodgers to me is like LeBron, whereas Brady is like Jordan. LeBron clearly more talented, more well-rounded, more of a physical specimen than Jordan, BUT he's simply just not as good as Jordan when the money is on the table and the game is on the line. Brady is the only guy in sports I would never bet against. He just finds a way to win, somehow some way, time after time, after time.
I don't think the gulf between Rodgers' play this year and especially down the stretch- vs. Brady's play was nearly as big as the gulf between Brady vs. Brees. Brees was in physical deterioration all year even before his injury- and in the playoff game he had been still recovering from a collapsed lung and like 8 broken ribs- he still wasn't 100%- and even before that injury he couldn't push the ball more than 20 yards down the field. Brady meanwhile had been bombs away all year under Bruce Arians' system and lead the league in deep throws and was 3rd in the NFL in passing yards and tied for 2nd in the NFL in passing TD's. And while Brady only had around 200 yards passing and 2 TD's in that Saints game- there were 3 deep balls dropped by his receivers- two of which should've went for TD's- two deep shots to Gronkowski- which Gronk should've absolutely had both of them- including one in the end-zone that should've been caught for the TD- and then another deep shot to Godwin in the end-zone that should've been caught for a TD. I don't think Brady got enough credit for his play that game- he's 21 of 33 and throws for around 300 and 4 TD passes and 1 TD run against one of the best defenses in the league if Gronk and Godwin just catch the damn ball like you'd expect elite level players at those positions too.
I can absolutely see it going either way, and that's solely because it's at home for Green Bay and the weather is going to absolutely suck. Brady is the greatest cold weather QB ever- but the rest of that team isn't used to playing in anything but 80 degrees and sunshine. I like Tampa, simply because they just have more talent top to bottom and they have the greatest post-season big game performer ever at QB- but I'm giving Green Bay a real good shot because it's at home in the cold and Rodgers is a truly great QB.
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That's what ended up killing the Pats. Their draft pics were busts.
Bill Belichik is one of the greatest coaches ever. No doubt about that. But he's also one of the worst GM's/Drafter of players ever. In 25+ years as a head coach in NE and Cleveland- his track record drafting absolutely sucks. Aside from Brady falling out of heaven in the 6th round- which is the luckiest draft pick of all-time- and stealing Gronkowski in the 2nd round because of the rash of injuries Gronk suffered in college causing him to fall out of the 1st- his drafting in New England has been absolute ass.
If Belichik had been just coaching- and they had someone with a real eye for talent drafting players- who knows how good that dynasty might've been. That's the scary part.
Jimmy Johnson and Bill Walsh will always be better overall GM/coaches imo. Simply because their eye for talent was just vastly superior to Belichik's. In terms of X's and O's and scheming things up- Belichik is one of the of the best ever for sure. No doubt about it. He absolutely sucks as a GM though.
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I like Tampa's defense, but I think the Packers win a close game.
I'll be rooting for Brady and the Bucks
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I like Tampa's defense, but I think the Packers win a close game.
I'll be rooting for Brady and the Bucks Bucs
FIFY
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That's what ended up killing the Pats. Their draft pics were busts.
Dude you don't know the half of it.Perhaps it's because I've(we've) always been a college football fan(s) that collectively we have a better grasp of Draft Evaluation.Specially after the Browns got moved from 1995-2000.I've previously mentioned to Mdot one year Belichick had this mad lust for some reason a tight end in the 1st rd of the draft.Well right before the Browns pick the Jets grabbed that TE.The League (at the time) allocated 15 minutes between picks or you drop back one spot.As the time ticked away we're wondering what BB was going to do.The idiot didn't have a plan "B" pick ready which given his attention to detail was surprising.He absolutely panicked and picked Craig Powell a LB from Ohio State,who sat out the whole previous season with a torn ACL.It was maddening Browns fans were calling for his head.....little did we know.
And to prove that was no fluke a few yrs earlier BB drafted "TouchDown" Tommy Vardell in the 1st rd (9th overall) in the draft.He was a short yardage specialist from Standford.Sometimes I wondered if BB was a deliberate plant by the NFL to get stadiums built in Baltimore and Cleveland
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I like Tampa, simply because they just have more talent top to bottom and they have the greatest post-season big game performer ever at QB- but I'm giving Green Bay a real good shot because it's at home in the cold and Rodgers is a truly great QB.
:D Hedge much?Well get off the fence who are you picking?
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he picked Tampa
just not in a blowout
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It was reported that apparently Brees was playing through a torn rotator cuff this year. Ouch.
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Ya that would smart - went down swinging
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Lions and Stafford mutually agree to part ways. Detroit is fielding offers for him as we speak.
I think he’d be a great fit in Washington. That’s a top 3 defense in the nfl. They need a couple pieces on offense- namely a QB and a skill weapon or two- and they’d be legit contenders.
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Lions and Stafford mutually agree to part ways. Detroit is fielding offers for him as we speak.
I think he’d be a great fit in Washington. That’s a top 3 defense in the nfl. They need a couple pieces on offense- namely a QB and a skill weapon or two- and they’d be legit contenders.
I assumed Indy, but it sounds like SF figured out Jimmy sucks, and it's only a $2 million cap hit to cut him now.
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I assumed Indy, but it sounds like SF figured out Jimmy sucks, and it's only a $2 million cap hit to cut him now.
I think San Fran has known Jimmy G isn’t all that for a couple seasons now. I wouldn’t say he sucks. It’s not like he’s Blake Bortles or Blaine Gabbert bad. I’d say he’s mediocre- he’s a real good back-up to average starter at best. He’s not a franchise QB nor is he worth anywhere near the money they paid him.
If San Francisco would trade the 12th pick for Stafford straight up I’d do that in a second if I was the Lions.
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Packers coming after Brady on 3rd down with the Blitz
Brady up to the task so far
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Fournette running like the tip-toe burglar and dropping a couple catchable balls already. He's so talented but so freaking inconsistent. I don't know why- but for whatever reason he just hasn't ever put it all together in the NFL.
Brady looking really sharp hitting three straight 3rd down conversions, one for 27 yard to Evans, one for 14 yards to Godwin, and then the TD on 3rd and 7 to Evans.
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Antonio Brown- arguably Tampa's most talented WR out. Antonie Winfield Jr- their starting rookie safety and by far their best player in the secondary- out as well.
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Antonie Winfield Jr is the bigger loss imo
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Tampa defense off to a hot start as well. Super early- but they are looking like a team possessed. Vita Vea back from injury and already collapsing the pocket- that dude is a monster. He takes their front 7 to an entirely different level.
Their secondary is the definition of mediocre- but that's the best front 7 in the NFL- especially with Vita Vea in the line-up. Vea frees stuff up for those LB'ers- and that let's Devin White and Lavonte David roam more free. And that's the best inside LB duo in the entire game. Then they have really good 3-4 Rush OLB's in JPP and Shaq Barrett.
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Tampa just seems like its built for the playoffs. Unspectular but solid at every position.
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Antonie Winfield Jr is the bigger loss imo
agreed- they have plethora of options at WR/TE. Their secondary on the other hand is the weak link of their defense/team. And Winfield Jr is the only high-level player they have in the secondary imo. He's a huge loss.
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Tampa just seems like its built for the playoffs. Unspectular but solid at every position.
What? Lol. That inside LB group (David/White), DT group (Vea/Suh), and WR/TE group is the definition of spectacular. Oh and they are lead by the greatest QB ever. Lol.
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Tampa trying to get too cute there on 2nd down- and Green Bay blew it up.
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Brady just picked up another 3rd and long. Wow.
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Why test Alexander? He's arguably the best CB in the entire NFL. Certainly in that convo. The rest of Green Bay's secondary is not good. I'd be attacking them 24/7 and staying the hell away from Alexander.
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That drop by Tyler Johnson looms large. I don't know why Tampa WR's have had the dropsies all playoffs- but it's got to be maddening for Brady.
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What? Lol. That inside LB group (David/White), DT group (Vea/Suh), and WR/TE group is the definition of spectacular. Oh and they are lead by the greatest QB ever. Lol.
agreed
and Brady is past his prime but still in the top 5
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Devin White is ridiculously good. Jesus Christ he's just all over the field.
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if he's beating LaVonte David to the tackle, he's elite
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man Rodgers is ridiculous. That 3rd and long strike for 23 yards on the roll out in his own end-zone- he's just not fair. He's like a cheat code. Everyone is all in love with Mahomes- and he's great- but he's still WELL below Rodgers imo. Rodgers does things no one else can do. Period. And he doesn't have Andy Reid and all those ridiculous weapons that Mahomes has.
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man Tampa's CB's suck. They get burnt like toast in man to man every single time. They need to find an elite CB this off-season. Either draft, trade, or sign. That's really all the defense is lacking. Winfield Jr is going to be a stud safety moving forward. But their CB's are trash.
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Godwin makes up for the drop
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Godwin makes up for the drop
I feel like Tampa WR's have been dropping A LOT of balls all playoff. I don't get it. They didn't drop this many in the regular season.
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helluva run by Leonard
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I feel like Tampa WR's have been dropping A LOT of balls all playoff. I don't get it. They didn't drop this many in the regular season.
maybe putting too much pressure on themselves because of Brady??
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and just like that- Fournette shows his special ability- after dropping a couple passes early and tip-toeing and not running hard on his first couple carries. He's so maddening to watch- if he ever put it all together he'd be one of the very elite RB's in the entire NFL.
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Green Bay dodged a huge bullet there. Great play by the Tampa safety to knock the ball out- but the Green Bay blocker was Johnny on the Spot and fell on it.
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awesome!!!
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Wtf were the Packers doing?
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Wtf were the Packers doing?
getting owned by the greatest athlete in the history of team sports.
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Tom Brady has ice in his veins. Who the F converts a 4th and 3 and then hits a TD pass with 5 seconds left in a conference championship game. This guy is just ridiculous.
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getting owned by the greatest athlete in the history of team sports.
😂
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I can't believe Green Bay went man coverage with five seconds left in the half. Didn't the jets fire a guy for that this year?
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😂
I honestly don't think it's remotely close anymore. Jordan was the gold standard to me. Brady has passed him imo.
Playing QB is A LOT f'ing harder both physically and mentally than playing basketball number 1, and number 2 you have to beat Jordan in a 7 game series- he has a decided advantage. Brady- every playoff game is do or die. You win or go home. No one performs better in post-season than Brady. Dude just has ice in his veins.
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Packers in it deep now
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Tampa defense steps up, again
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Packers in it deep now
Aaron Rodgers crumbling in the playoffs.....AGAIN....who would've thunk it? Dude is only 1-3 in NFC Championship games with his lone win vs a pathetic Chicago Bears team who were QB'd by some scrub named Caleb Haney because Cutler was on the sidelines smoking cigarettes on a bike machine and refused to play.
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TB's defense giving Brady all sorts of chances
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I dislike Aaron Rogers, but I wouldn't say he's crumbling.
I do like the results so far
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TB's defense giving Brady all sorts of chances
And he's cashing in on all of them.
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I dislike Aaron Rogers, but I wouldn't say he's crumbling.
I do like the results so far
He threw a pick that Brady turned into a TD with 1 second left in the game after converting a 4th and 3 the play before. Rodgers has been force feeding the ball to Adams- including missing a wide open Lazard in the red-zone which made them settle for 3. Rodgers is not playing good....at all....imo.
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Tampa's CB's are extremely torchable.
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their other starting Safety Jordan Whitehead is now out- after injuring himself forcing that fumble. Tampa now starting both their back ups at safety.
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Rodgers dealing on that drive
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Aaron Rodgers crumbling in the playoffs.....AGAIN...
All the way down the field 😎 Pack's getting off the canvas
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All the way down the field 😎 Pack's getting off the canvas
just hoping for another jab from Brady
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Rodgers dealing on that drive
that was by far his best drive of the game aside from his 1st. He can't afford any more missed wide open throws or INT's.
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Tom Brady has played only one season with the Bucs, and it's at age 43. He just became the Bucs all-time leader in playoff touchdown passes. The Bucs were founded in 1976.
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Damn GB can't afford anymore injuries
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that was PI all the way with the way they call the game today. But I love that they didn't call PI there. Really glad they are letting them play in the playoffs and not calling shit unless it's egregious.
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Those floaters finally caught up.It's crumbling time - we have a game
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that was PI all the way with the way they call the game today. But I love that they didn't call PI there. Really glad they are letting them play in the playoffs and not calling shit unless it's egregious.
Then you missed holding that TB DB picked - depends whose ox is getting gored
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WTF was that? This is more bad Bruce Arians. Yeah, you're up 11 and running the ball effectively this drive, so yeah- let's take back to back deep shots- first one is incomplete and stops the clock- the other gets picked. Evans was nowhere near that ball. Looks like really bad miscommunication between the QB/WR right there.
This is why I hate Arians. Just run the damn ball football.
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Should have been caught
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Then you missed holding that TB DB picked - depends whose ox is getting gored
that one was ticky tacky- just like that non-call on #31 vs Godwin.
Don't call it unless it's egregious imo. A little bit of contact is OK. They should only call stuff when it's really bad holding or WR gets tackled.
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This is why I hate Arians. Just run the damn ball football.
Those floaters came back to haunt him.Arians is a good coach
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Rodgers nice placement
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Those floaters came back to haunt him.Arians is a good coach
He's a terrible situational football coach. And he's undisciplined and sloppy- and it rubs off on his team. Plus he's got a big mouth. He just needs to put a sock in it and let someone else call the offense.
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He picked up some of these guys.You and I could torch GB with all the time tom has had
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they need to get rid of this helmet to helmet and defenseless player shit. yeah yeah yeah, safety whatever. it's ruining the product on the field. it's impossible to play defense in the nfl today.
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CRUMBLING - think he heard you Mdot,
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He picked up some of these guys.You and could torch GB with all the time tom has had
No, no we couldn't. It's a lot harder to throw a football accurately than you think.
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CRUMBLING - think he heard you Mdot,
His last two drives are the best he's played all game. He's been unreal. Damn internet curse.
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Also- doesn't hurt that he's playing against two back up safeties right now.
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they need to get rid of this helmet to helmet and defenseless player shit. yeah yeah yeah, safety whatever. it's ruining the product on the field. it's impossible to play defense in the nfl to
The Browns got screwed on it last week but there is too much spearing.1st off every paly should be reviewable - not saying review every play
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The Browns got screwed on it last week but there is too much spearing.1st off every paly should be reviewable - not saying review every play
I mean I get it- they need to protect players health and they want points scored- but the game has been completely ruined imo.
Patriots Super Bowl defenses of the early 2000s with Ty Law, Richard Seymour, Vrabel, McGinnest, Rodney Harrison would never win anything in todays game. They'd be flagged every other play.
They've completely taken the physicality out of the game.
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They got away with way too much holding,the one AFC game vs the Colts was a sham
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Gotta hang on to that - nice follow up
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Brady needs to get his shit together in the 4th QTR. I have no idea wtf is happening but he's playing like crap last drive.
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GB with the stoopids
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Former Brown Kirksy
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Former Brown Kirksy
he's been playing great all day. Funny how guys get a lot better when they leave Cleveland. Detroit has this same problem.
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Mike Evans with another ball off his finger tips. Winds up intercepted.
Wow. This guy is suppose to be one of the best WR's in the NFL? That's two on the same drive. BRO. This is for the SUPER BOWL. You're a supposed elite 6'5" WR? You HAVE TO CATCH THOSE.
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he's been playing great all day. Funny how guys get a lot better when they leave Cleveland. Detroit has this same problem.
He actuually played real well but want kahlil like coin evidently
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Brady with just a little too much on that last one
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Brady with just a little too much on that last one
It hit Evans in both hands. He's 6'5" and is an elite athlete. That's 100% on Evans. Like Cris Carter always used to say- if you can touch it- you can catch it.
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tampa bay defense, better than Green Bay defense
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It hit Evans in both hands. He's 6'5" and is an elite athlete. That's 100% on Evans. Like Cris Carter always used to say- if you can touch it- you can catch it.
well, a Viking's fan. Carter is my guy, but....
that ball is a bit lower from Brady, then it's on Evans
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This is some quality football
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(https://i.imgur.com/ckccTZm.png)
Live look in at Bill Belichick...
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I still can't believe that Evans let not one, but two deep passes slip through BOTH HANDS on that drive.
This guy is 6'5", was a high 1st round pick, has made multiple Pro Bowls, has started his career with 7 straight 1,000 yard seasons. If you're REALLY "THAT GUY" you catch those in this game.
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nobody likes a cheesehead
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I still can't believe that Evans let not one, but two deep passes slip through BOTH HANDS on that drive.
This guy is 6'5", was a high 1st round pick, has made multiple Pro Bowls, has started his career with 7 straight 1,000 yard seasons. If you're REALLY "THAT GUY" you catch those in this game.
the earlier one, was just horrible
I'll give him a bit of a pass on the last one
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well, a Viking's fan. Carter is my guy, but....
that ball is a bit lower from Brady, then it's on Evans
it's still on Evans. The QB needs help. It hit Evans in both hands.
Cris Carter catches BOTH those balls 10000%. So does Michael Irvin. And they both get BLASTED by the safety and still hold onto the ball. Evans doesn't have to worry about that at ALL. The safeties aren't allowed to hit "defenseless" receivers over the middle anymore.
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It hit Evans in both hands. He's 6'5" and is an elite athlete. That's 100% on Evans.
Little high sorry - watched two replays
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Brady can't just toss lobs under pressure
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Brady is falling apart
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Brady tossing up arm punts
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Little high sorry - watched two replays
Little high- for sure- but Evans got both hands on the ball. He's Pro Bowl WR- 6'5" with 7 ft wingspan, 40" vertical, and gigantic hands. He's got to catch that. IF you can touch it- you can catch it.
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Brady is falling apart crumbling
FIFY
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what the hell is this playcalling? It's 3rd and 2. My god. Why taking shots down the field? Brady is TERRIBLE at throwing the ball down the field under pressure when his feet aren't set. My god.
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Arians gonna Arians. Yeah let's take deep shot after deep shot when all we need to do is run the ball and pick up first downs on 3rd and short. My god man.
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FIFY
For real. I've never seen him crumble in a post season game in the 2nd half. This is unreal. He's sucking ASS. Dude should just retire.
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Rodgers getting some dropped
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Lazar and Rogers wanted a flag on that?!?!?!
guess they expect MUCH more from Clete's crew
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Lazar and Rogers wanted a flag on that?!?!?!
guess they expect MUCH more from Clete's crew
I CANNOT stand when offensive players sit and whine and complain about penalties. Brady and Rodgers are probably the most guilty of this I have ever seen.
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Arians gonna Arians. Yeah let's take deep shot after deep shot when all we need to do is run the ball and pick up first downs on 3rd and short. My god man.
TB calling his own plays but I agree they should be grinding it to keep the "D" honest
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TB calling his own plays but I agree they should be grinding it to keep the "D" honest
this is not true, he doesn't call his own plays. he can change them at the line- but Arians/Leftwich call the plays.
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finally, GRONK!!!!
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Gronk rumbling
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jeez, bad throw my Tom
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jeez, bad throw my Tom
for real. he's seeing ghosts. he's done.
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Tom seems to be blessed by clutch kickers
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what the hell were the last two plays by Brady? I have NEVER seen him play this poorly in the 4th QTR of a playoff game. Ever.
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he's human
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finally, GRONK!!!!
I have no clue why they aren't using him more in the passing game. He's the greatest TE Ever.
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he's human
I think the hits at age 43 have caught up to him. He's seeing ghosts and as soon as he feels pressure he doesn't want to get hit and just throws it up for grabs. This dude used to stand in the pocket and take the shots and throw the ball accurately.
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Pack finding seems
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Tampa needs to stop disguising their defense and just blitz Rodgers every play.
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I have no clue why they aren't using him more in the passing game. He's the greatest TE Ever.
Gates and Gonzales didn't get hurt
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Miscue between Rodgers and WR
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Gates and Gonzales didn't get hurt
he is better than both.
Why the hell aren't they doubling Adams? He gets more wide open than any WR in the game today. Dude is a route running ninja.
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Can't do this like last time
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rodgers should have ran the last 2 X.Bad move gotta go for 6
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Green Bay chooses to kick. But they have all their timeouts.
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Bitches kicked the ball
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they should've went for it imo.
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Mickens is a moron
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What? Lol. That inside LB group (David/White), DT group (Vea/Suh), and WR/TE group is the definition of spectacular. Oh and they are lead by the greatest QB ever. Lol.
they all seem past their prime, but good vets (except for Vea who I thought was still hurt)
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Green Bay chooses to kick. But they have all their timeouts.
But don't have the ball
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that kick returner is an idiot. Jesus. You need to run the 2 minute warning out.
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should have let him get the 1st down before the 2min warning there
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they all seem past their prime, but good vets (except for Vea who I thought was still hurt)
how are White and Vea past their primes lol? They are 2nd and 3rd year players. Suh is past his prime- he's no longer the most dominant interior linemen in the game who can single-handedly wreck a game- but he's still a Pro Bowl caliber DT. LaVonte David is smack in his prime. As are Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and Cam Brate.
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smart to give up a 1st down???
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Why can't Tampa decline that penalty?
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smart to give up a 1st down???
incredibly smart- it saved them from burning a TO. Incredibly dumb to accept the penalty on TB part.
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Brady gets the flag in Green Bay!!!
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Tough single handed loss for Desmond King
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That's about all she wrote
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incredibly smart- it saved them from burning a TO. Incredibly dumb to accept the penalty on TB part.
so they burn the TO in the next play?
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Brady gets the flag in Green Bay!!!
the GOAT.
Tyler Johnson got pulled to the ground by the jersey by Kevin King. Kevin King sucks.
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Tough single handed loss for Desmond King
his name is Kevin King. And yeah, he sucks. He gave up the TD pass with 1 second left to Scotty Miller and he just shoved a WR to the ground on 3rd down to get the flag to pick up the 1st to basically lose the game.
They gotta cut his ass tomorrow.
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Rodgers had 2 chances to run that last possesion and forced bad throws
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Rodgers had 2 chances to run that last possesion and forced bad throws
blame it on the coach. They should've freaking went for it. They kicked a FG.
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he thought he had a defense and the refs would help him
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That's twice this half,fookers can't count
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worst 4th QTR I've ever seen Tom Brady play in the playoffs. Thank god Kevin King exists.
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GO Pack GO
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That's it.They better run the ball more next game is all I can say - Hope the Bills win but fine with KC
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GO Pack GO
Go Home Pack Go. Oh wait, they are already home. LOL.
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That's it.They better run the ball more next game is all I can say - Hope the Bills win but fine with KC
I'm shocked at how poorly Tampa ran the ball today. They've been running great all playoffs and down the stretch of the regular season. Green Bay stonewalled them on the ground today.
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Quite the Battle of the Bays.
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Pretty sweet for Brady and Tampa gets the Super Bowl in Tampa
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Pretty sweet for Brady and Tampa gets the Super Bowl in Tampa
Yeah, it's never happened before- a team playing in the Super Bowl in it's home stadium.
Their entire playoff run was on the road, except for the Super Bowl. Pretty crazy.
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https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1353476053340213249?s=20
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Tough single handed loss for Desmond King
Kevin King? For as much as will be made about that last PI, why didn’t GB go for the TD instead of the FG? That should be the bigger deal.
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Kevin King? For as much as will be made about that last PI, why didn’t GB go for the TD instead of the FG? That should be the bigger deal.
That is 100% the bigger deal. Matt LaFleur is an idiot. How could they not call that?
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why didn’t GB go for the TD instead of the FG? That should be the bigger deal.
Ed Zachery and should have never went for 2 pt convo earlier
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Never forget
https://twitter.com/ramzy/status/1087189804628946944?s=19
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Nice snag there by Diggs
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Bills get it - you watching GB?
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That is 100% the bigger deal. Matt LaFleur is an idiot. How could they not call that?
LaFleur apologists (if that’s a thing yet) will say there was enough time to get ball back after FG (2 min TO + 3 TOs) but that’s also true for going for the TD and not getting it.
https://twitter.com/ColeyMick/status/1353481670549241862
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Bills up 3-0 😎
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Never forget
https://twitter.com/ramzy/status/1087189804628946944?s=19
hard to argue with that. That chip on his shoulder and need to prove himself started at Michigan. Who knows if he ever goes on to be what he was without that experience. Probably not. But he should've never been a 6th round pick nor got as disrespected by the Carr staff in his 5th year as he did.
Brady was by far the better QB at the time- he was a 5th year senior and started every game the year prior- but Lloyd Carr caved into the pressure from Henson and Henson's father to play Henson. Carr was afraid he'd lose Henson to the MLB. He lost him early to the MLB anyway. That 2001 Michigan team could've competed for a national title with a SR Drew Henson. They lost 3 regular season games by a combined point total of 12. Drew Henson was WAYYYYYYY better than John Navarre. Michigan is 11-0 in 2001 with Henson at QB imo.
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What a beautiful throw wrong thinking hill could concentrate
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LaFleur apologists (if that’s a thing yet) will say there was enough time to get ball back after FG (2 min TO + 3 TOs) but that’s also true for going for the TD and not getting it.
https://twitter.com/ColeyMick/status/1353481670549241862
LaFleur is not a good head coach. If Packers fans and Brady haters want a guy to blame- there's your guy. I would honestly fire him if I was the Packers brass.
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LaFleur apologists (if that’s a thing yet) will say there was enough time to get ball back after FG (2 min TO + 3 TOs) but that’s also true for going for the TD and not getting it.
https://twitter.com/ColeyMick/status/1353481670549241862
Even lousy QBs will throw it at a 60% clip. Its too easy these days to get one first down. You have to go for it.
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Michigan is 11-0 in 2001 with Henson at QB imo.
Got anymore of those drugs - bullshit.Ohio State went up their and knocked their dicks in the dirt
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Even lousy QBs will throw it at a 60% clip. Its too easy these days to get one first down. You have to go for it.
Yeah, it was a bad decision to kick the FG. And it was a bad decision to go for the 2pt conversion early and chase the points.
I would seriously can LaFleur. Go hire Josh McDaniels.
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Got anymore of those drugs - bullshit.Ohio State went up their and knocked their dicks in the dirt
Henson whooped your asses the year before in Columbus. He was a SIGNIFICANTLY better QB and player than John Navarre. Henson would've been the #1 overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft had he stuck with football.
Henson's JR year in 2000 is still the best QB'ing I have ever seen watching Michigan football. He would've only been better in 2001 had he quit baseball and committed fully to football.
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Bills have it
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how funny would it be for the Bills to win here and finally make a Super Bowl run because Brady left the AFC East- only to have to go through him in the Super Bowl.
Brady has given that Bills organization and all of it's fans PTSD for the last 20 years.
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Henson whooped your asses the year before in Columbus. He was a SIGNIFICANTLY better QB and player than John Navarre. Henson would've been the #1 overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft had he stuck with football.
Henson's JR year in 2000 is still the best QB'ing I have ever seen watching Michigan football. He would've only been better in 2001 had he quit baseball and committed fully to football.
You need to quit stringing together fantasies where everything comes together as you wish it.If the Queen had balls she'd be king and if,butts and ors were candy nuts and whores evryone has a merry christmas.M had 4 losses and Brady really came together later.And Carr(No 1) had a much better career than Henson.Who never did squat in the League - if he was all that he could have gave it a shot
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Hensen played for the AAA Columbus Clippers.
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Henson whooped your asses the year before in Columbus. He was a SIGNIFICANTLY better QB and player than John Navarre. Henson would've been the #1 overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft had he stuck with football.
Henson's JR year in 2000 is still the best QB'ing I have ever seen watching Michigan football. He would've only been better in 2001 had he quit baseball and committed fully to football.
That game put a seal on the John Cooper era at OSU, leading to the hiring of Jim Tressel. OSU should put a statue up of Henson.
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That game put a seal on the John Cooper era at OSU, leading to the hiring of Jim Tressel. OSU should put a statue up of Henson.
He was great that game- he threw for 300+ and 3 TD's and he also added a TD run on the ground. Michigan hasn't had a QB dominate like that vs Ohio State since.
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1353492958377631744?s=20
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https://twitter.com/StanGronkNandez/status/1353492661156663297?s=20
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1353490078815965186?s=20
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I'm not too sure any QB would have excelled for 2001 UM.
The running game stunk, with a young Chris Perry backing up a FB-turned-RB BJ Askew. And only one receiving threat in Marquise Walker. They had no one else catching balls that year.
The defense was great vs the run, but gave up 20+ points in half their games, so it wasn't great.
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I can buy a better QB would get them in a position that MSU couldn't score on the last play and beat them and beat Warshington in a game of offensive and special teams ineptitude. As for the other game, no QB is likely to lead you back from a 21-0 deficit (vs OSU).
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Even if UM went 10-1, we saw what happened when they played a big-boy team in the Citrus Bowl. A half-dozen teams would have thumped the Wolverines in whatever better bowl they'd have gotten.
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They lost 3 regular season games by the thinnest of margins. 12 points combined. They are 10-1 or 11-0 regular season with Henson. I'll believe that to my dying day. John Navarre was completely mediocre that year as a sophomore. He was always mediocre actually. Henson was an elite talent point blank period and would've been a senior. Drew Henson would've been a massive upgrade at the QB position- you know, the most important position on the field.
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Henson was an Adonis. He was just on a completely different level than a young Navarre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQcTo-cefm4
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I can see Mahomes/Allen facing off for many years.Hopefully Mayfield can weasel in there occassionally
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you know what could consistently work if KC is gonna just play pass, running Josh Allen
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Henson was an elite talent point blank period and would've been a senior. Drew Henson would've been a massive upgrade at the QB position- you know, the most important position on the field.
So he passed up a sure fire No 1 in the NFL Draft for the minor leagues?QBs are suppose to be the smartest on the field must have felt different of his chances than you did
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I can see Mahomes/Allen facing off for many years.Hopefully Mayfield can weasel in there occassionally
if Browns keep drafting successfully and they can get some nice picks in a trade for OBJ- I think they'll be right there with KC/Bills for awhile.
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C'mon Bills
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So he passed up a sure fire No 1 in the NFL Draft for the minor leagues?QBs are suppose to be the smartest on the field must have felt different of his chances than you did
He liked playing baseball more than he liked playing football. Yankees offered him $17 million and he took it. He had a ton of baseball talent- but he had otherworldly football talent at the QB position. He was 6'4, 230 pounds and had ridiculous arm strength, made good decisions, had a quick release, threw very accurately, could throw on the run and across his body accurately- and oh yeah he ran in the 4.6's- he could really move.
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Didn't collect all that got like 2-3 million before signing with the cowboys in 2004 for a guaranteed 3.5 mil.So he would have made more going to the NFL - though he's not hurting
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Didn't collect all that got like 2-3 million before signing with the cowboys in 2004 for a guaranteed 3.5 mil.So he would have made more going to the NFL - though he's not hurting
He collected $10 million of it- and the reason he didn't collect it all obviously is because he quit baseball early to try and chase the NFL after he was having trouble hitting the curveball and adjusting to the MLB. The guy was just a wishy washy flake, who had a psycho stage Dad constantly in his ear pressuring him. His father honestly ruined his career imo. His father pressured Lloyd Carr to get his son on the field early instead of redshirting and letting him develop, and his father pressured him to take the deal with Yankees and the money.
Henson was on the cover of Sports Illustrated as a senior in high school for breaking the national high school home runs record- and was drafted by the Yankees in 1998 right out of high school in the 3rd rd of the MLB draft and Steinbrenner signed him to a $2 million minor league contract. Steinbrenner was obsessed with him and didn't want to let him get away to the NFL like Elway did. Henson would have been the Yankees 1st round pick had he not signed his LOI with Michigan and made it clear he was playing college football. The kid missed spring practice every year to play baseball and still wound up pushing Brady in '99 and then having just a hell of a season in 2000.
He tried coming back to football in 2004 but Bill Parcells never wanted him- it was Jerry Jones who pushed to sign him. And honestly- it was just never going to happen. He hadn't played a single snap of football since 2000- and that was college football- not the big boy league. You can't be away from playing football for 4 years and then just think you can jump to the NFL to play QB. Maybe another position- but NOT that position- I don't care how physically gifted you are. Ain't ever going to happen in a billion years.
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KC offense just looks like its on easy mode. Buffalo offense looks to be playing on legendary. It just really really difficult for them on that FG drive.
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He collected $10 million of it-
No he didn't collected 1 million signing bonus then 1 million for 02 & 03 each.The rest was to come later at the back end of the contract if he made it.Only played 02 & 03 then signed with the Cowboys for 3.5 guaranteed.Steinbrenner wasn't dumb guys come thru like that are a dime a dozen
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KC offense just looks like its on easy mode. Buffalo offense looks to be playing on legendary. It just really really difficult for them on that FG drive.
Allen needs help but the defense has no answer for Kelce/Hill
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Feels like Bills entirely too conservative this game
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Allen needs help but the defense has no answer for Kelce/Hill
IDK why they aren't calling runs for the best running QB not named Lamar Jackson. KC D has been ignoring the run all game. Mahomes would have trouble completing passes the way they are blanketing the WRs.
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Bills just do not have the offense to keep up with this high flying KC attack.
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SO...
Keys for Tampa in SB vs KC....
Arians needs to check his ego at the door. They HAVE to run the ball more- a lot more- instead of saying hey Tom- let's just go bombs away all game long.
Evans/Godwin who have BOTH had issues with drops this entire playoff- need to catch the ball when it hits them in both hands.
Antonio Brown needs to come back and play a bigger role. I trust him a lot more than Evans/Godwin.
Gronk needs to be more involved in the pass game then just 1 target.
They need both their starting safeties back against a passing attack from KC that quite frankly is lethal as it gets and not sure it can even be stopped. Just have to hang on for dear life and try to get lucky and a stop here or there.
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Will Gholston has had a sneaky good/great NFL career
https://twitter.com/Wil__Hunter/status/1353481938137456641?s=19
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Will Gholston has had a sneaky good/great NFL career
https://twitter.com/Wil__Hunter/status/1353481938137456641?s=19
he's a perfect fit in their 3-4 scheme. I thought McDowell would be the better pro between the two former MSU studs- but that one hasn't even been remotely close.
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SO...
Keys for Tampa in SB vs KC....
Arians needs to check his ego at the door. They HAVE to run the ball more- a lot more- instead of saying hey Tom- let's just go bombs away all game long.
Ariens didn't tell Brady to throw up those floaters.He checks the calls and runs what he wants.If TB mixes it up on the ground Brady could keep it close.Brady wouldn't keep doing stupid shit even if the coach ordered it.Two decades in the League are starting to limit him a bit.KC is just a machine right now hitting on all cylinders
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What a snag by Diggs.I don't think Brady will evade the KC rush like Allen has been able to - 43 yrs old legs can't move like Allen
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Henson was an Adonis. He was just on a completely different level than a young Navarre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQcTo-cefm4
It's easy to dream on guys who never actually did it. Great at baseball and football, didn't succeed in either. Fun stuff.
18 minutes? Is it a video of every play of his career?!?
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It's easy to dream on guys who never actually did it. Great at baseball and football, didn't succeed in either. Fun stuff.
Yeah, except he did succeed. His first year as a starter was his junior year- and he was phenomenal. He started 9 games (he missed the first 3 games that season with a foot injury)- and in his 9 starts he completed 61% of his passes (in a system that at the time took deep shots down the field- no dinking and dunking and cheap easy completions like everyone does today- and in that system he threw for just under 2,000 passing yards and 18 TD passes vs 4 INT's and he also ran for 2 TD's on the ground. He threw for 300+ yards and 3 TD's and ran for another TD vs Ohio State in Columbus that year.
Anyone who knows anything about that era of Michigan football and the archaic passing game they had knows that season and those numbers Henson put up his junior year in 9 games was special. He would've absolutely taken it to the next level had he come back as a senior and quit chasing those MLB dreams. He didn't- and his senior season and NFL career were basically lost forever. He was a much better NFL QB prospect than he was MLB prospect. He was as talented a college QB as I have ever seen.
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I'm saying his career didn't live up to his talent/hype. That's all. It's unfortunate.
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I'm saying his career didn't live up to his talent/hype. That's all. It's unfortunate.
Well, Lloyd Carr basically burned his redshirt as a freshman in '98 for no reason. He did it just because Henson's father told him to do it. That simple. Which was dumb because they had a RS Jr who was named the clear cut starter before the fall camp ever began- Tom Brady. Henson's father used to hang around Michigan practices all the time and he basically told Lloyd Carr when Drew signed that he's not going to Michigan to sit on the bench- you ain't redshirting him. Carr said yes sir. Carr basically broke all his own rules and gave Henson special treatment and bent over backwards to keep him happy. Henson was treated like a golden child before he ever took one snap of football at Michigan.
And then Henson's father threatened that Drew would go play baseball if he didn't get to play more- which is why Carr tried that stupid two QB thing in '99. This is after Brady went 10-2 as the full-time starter in '98 AND Henson missed the entire spring ball practices in '99 because he was off playing minor league baseball.
Henson wasn't allowed to just sit and develop, and he wasted too much time in the off-seasons playing baseball. He should've been redshirted and he should've been a RS Frosh in '99 and the back-up QB- not a true sophomore who was splitting starter time.
Lloyd Carr just wound up losing him to MLB anyway. Carr should've grew a sack and told him if you're not going to quit baseball and commit to football and accept a redshirt then go play baseball and pound sand.
His JR year is still the gold standard of all Michigan QB's.
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Well, Lloyd Carr basically burned his redshirt as a freshman in '98 for no reason. He did it just because Henson's father told him to do it. That simple. Which was dumb because they had a RS Jr who was named the clear cut starter before the fall camp ever began- Tom Brady. Henson's father used to hang around Michigan practices all the time and he basically told Lloyd Carr when Drew signed that he's not going to Michigan to sit on the bench- you ain't redshirting him. Carr said yes sir. Carr basically broke all his own rules and gave Henson special treatment and bent over backwards to keep him happy. Henson was treated like a golden child before he ever took one snap of football at Michigan.
And then Henson's father threatened that Drew would go play baseball if he didn't get to play more- which is why Carr tried that stupid two QB thing in '99. This is after Brady went 10-2 as the full-time starter in '98 AND Henson missed the entire spring ball practices in '99 because he was off playing minor league baseball.
Henson wasn't allowed to just sit and develop, and he wasted too much time in the off-seasons playing baseball. He should've been redshirted and he should've been a RS Frosh in '99 and the back-up QB- not a true sophomore who was splitting starter time.
Lloyd Carr just wound up losing him to MLB anyway. Carr should've grew a sack and told him if you're not going to quit baseball and commit to football and accept a redshirt then go play baseball and pound sand.
His JR year is still the gold standard of all Michigan QB's.
How is it better than Harbaugh’s Junior year?
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Henson was phenomenal. Brady was solid as a junior, but had a shot to put it all together in his senior year but Carr did this dumbass rotation, where one of them got the first quarter, the other got the second quarter, and whichever one was better got the second half.
It was an injustice to both of them. Brady "won" the right to get the second half in five of the first six games, as Michigan started 6-0. In a matchup of top 10 teams, Henson got the second half against MSU, but fell behind by 17. For the first, and I believe only time all year, they switched, and went back to Brady, who got Michigan back to within 3, very easily. MSU won, by going for it on 4th down, and completing a pass to Burress, knowing if they gave the ball back to Brady, he was going to win.
That Michigan team wound up losing the Big Ten to a Wisconsin team which they beat, with Brady, but beat the SEC champ Alabama in the Orange Bowl.
1999 was by far the best the Big Ten has ever been
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Elvis Grbac had a better year in '91.
Todd Collins' 1993 was basically the same.
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But to be fair, here are the passer ratings for the #1 QB under Lloyd Carr, by year:
1995: 118
1996: 127
1997: 138
1998: 133
1999: 138
2000: 153
2001: 116
2002: 122
2003: 134
2004: 133
2005: 130
2006: 143
2007: 131
So yes, Henson easily had the best year under Carr. But it wasn't the best ever, or anything like that.
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Jeebis Rodgers talked/Sounded like he had 2 infected root canals and gravely ill with covid.Such adversity - it's still a football game
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So who gets Stafford?N.O.,San Fran,N.E.?
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John Dorsey joined Detroit's FO.Good move he corraled some talent in KC & Cleveland.Check his ego and it could be a beautiful thing
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2021/01/24/detroit-lions-john-dorsey-chiefs-browns-patrick-mahomes/6693966002/
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I miss you one, by going forward on 4th down, and completing a pass to Burress, knowing if they gave the ball back to Brady, he was going to win.
Bad voice recognition software?
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Bad voice recognition software?
Indeed
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The software is fine, he just has a funny accent.
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18 minutes? Is it a video of every play of his career?!?
He started 10 games in his career. 1 as a Soph and then the 9 as a Jr (missed first 3 games that year with a foot injury).
Not every play- but a lot. I recommend everyone who never saw him play and doubts him watch it.
His talent was insane. His arm strength was ridiculous but he had natural touch and accuracy and he could throw accurate darts on the run and across his body with ease. He had so many jaw dropping passes like that. His talent really was just ridiculous.
He should be a cautionary tale to any hotshot young QB recruit trying to dabble in baseball. Pick one or the other and stick to it. Impossible to do both.
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I'm so thankful that Bo hasn't been forgotten. Him being in Madden as a legendary player has probably helped more than anything else.
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Rodgers has a salary-cap charge of $36.3 million in 2021 and $39.9 million in 2022. If he and the team were to go their separate ways after the 2021 season, the Packers would save $22.648 million in salary-cap space but would have to count $17.204 million in dead money. If they moved on after this season, they would save only $4.76 million on the cap and have $31.556 million in dead money.
Despite being at the top of his game and knowing full well the status of his contract, Rodgers spoke with some uncertainty about the future.
"It's a good question," Rodgers said when asked what's next for him. "I don't know; I really don't. There's a lot of unknowns going into this offseason now.
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I'm so thankful that Bo hasn't been forgotten. Him being in Madden as a legendary player has probably helped more than anything else.
I think Tecmo Bowl still holds sway as well
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I think Tecmo Bowl still holds sway as well
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I never liked that game. Running around in a zigzag and throwing to receivers I couldn't see made it feel dumb. I was in the minority, of course.
Hell, I played the first 1-2 Maddens pretending they were college teams.
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Different animal. QB is the single hardest position to play in all of sports. Can’t compare anything to it.
You can play RB or CB just off sheer athleticism and instinct for the positions alone. You simply just cannot do that at QB.
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I'm so thankful that Bo hasn't been forgotten. Him being in Madden as a legendary player has probably helped more than anything else.
To this day he is the greatest raw athlete I’ve ever seen. Don’t think anyone is close.
His combination of size, power, acceleration, and top end speed is something we may never see again.
He is the only guy I’ve ever seen that I feel like could’ve legitimately been a Hall of Famer in two professional sports. Insane.
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Different animal. QB is the single hardest position to play in all of sports. Can’t compare anything to it.
You can play RB or CB just off sheer athleticism and instinct for the positions alone. You simply just cannot do that at QB.
I'd say that, with catcher and goalie (hockey) in the team picture.
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https://twitter.com/KosmeticKrys/status/1353706630928621568?s=19
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Ummmm......that’s too weird for me.
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Different animal. QB is the single hardest position to play in all of sports. Can’t compare anything to it.
You can play RB or CB just off sheer athleticism and instinct for the positions alone. You simply just cannot do that at QB.
Please Mdot full stop we're not talking Jim Thorpe or Bo Jackson,he went down swinging in one sport and took a knee in another.I'll listen to the yoddeling on about Brady but not a coulda/woulda/shoulda because he looked the part in a jock.Jim Henson had as much pro success between the lines as Drew Henson
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I never liked that game. Running around in a zigzag and throwing to receivers I couldn't see made it feel dumb. I was in the minority, of course.
Hell, I played the first 1-2 Maddens pretending they were college teams.
You ever play 10 Yard Fight? Or, NFL Football on Intellivision? Tecmo Bowl was a gigantic leap from those games. When Super Tecmo Bowl came out with all the teams and stats I thought I had died and gone to heaven.
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If you’re the Lions what is acceptable for Stafford? I think they need a 1st and another pick either 3rd or 4th.
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1st and a quality starter at a position of need?
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1st and a quality starter at a position of need?
1st and something. I think Stafford would be a great fit for the Colts, 49ers, or Redskins. He could help all of those teams take the step.
I think the Colts would give the #21 pick in a second for Stafford. They've shown they'll give up 1st rd picks by trading for DeForrest Buckner. Would the 49ers give up the #12 pick though? Redskins the #19 pick? And then it becomes, what else would those teams give up? Lions have to get a couple picks minimum. I think the asking price has to be a 1st and 2nd or 3rd plus a decent player.
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Stafford or Watson in SF could be interesting
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1st and something. I think Stafford would be a great fit for the Colts, 49ers, or Redskins. He could help all of those teams take the step.
be more fun if he'd go to Da Bears
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Ohio had almost as many Steeler fans as Browns and Bengals. Even though the Lions and Colts are also in neighboring states, I only met one fan of either team the entire time I lived there.
The Lions fan was a die hard, wearing their gear from head to toe even when they went 0-16.
The Colts fan was a Vols fan who liked them because they were nearby and had Peyton Manning. He was always rolling around in an Eli Manning Giants jersey that his GF gifted him, mistaking it as a Peyton Manning Colts jersey.
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Let’s talk Super Bowl. What’s everyone thinking?
KC has insane firepower on offense with Tyreek, Kelcee, and Hardman- but is without its two best starting OL’s in Fisher and Schwartz- and Tampa’s pass rush has been on a roll and they just got Vita Vea back who really had a huge impact stuffing the run up the middle vs GB. Tampa should also have both it’s staring safeties back this game.
Mahomes is phenomenal and Andy Reid is the best offensive play caller there is- but I think I’m leaning Tampa.
Tampa just went on the road and got 30+ in 3 straight road playoff games against the #2, #5, and #9th ranked total defenses in the NFL. KC’s total defense is ranked 17th.
Don’t see Brady playing as awful as he did in the 2nd half again either. Have to think he bounces back.
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The only thing keeping me from thinking 3 td KC victory is 2 missing offensive tackles
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Ohio had almost as many Steeler fans as Browns and Bengals.
Maybe in the southern part of the state,not in the NE Ohio.We'd rather have covid than pull for the pierogi munchers.Poles will root for the Russians before we root for the Squeelers
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The only thing keeping me from thinking 3 td KC victory is 2 missing offensive tackles
Tampa front 7 is too good for them to lose by 3 TD’s regardless if those tackles were playing imo. And KC’s defense isn’t good enough to hold a 3 TD lead imo. It’s an underrated D- but it’s still only middle of the pack. Tampa has a legitimate top 8 defense. Only thing holding it back from being elite and top 3-5 is elite CB play.
But the fact that KC is missing both staring tackles- really makes me think Tampa is going to control the line of scrimmage on defense. Tampa leads the nfl in takeaways and turn over margin in reg season + post season combined. If you take the ball away more than anyone- and then you take it away a lot more than you give it away- well that’s a recipe for success.
These two teams played in the regular season and KC jumped out on them- but Tampa changed up its defensive Pass coverage and scheme and Brady brought them right back to within 3 points with 4 minutes left in the game. Brady was dealing that 2nd half throwing for nearly 300 yards and 3 TD’s in just that half alone. He had the hot hand and had Tampa made one stop to get him the ball back- Tampa was going to win that game. Never got that chance- Mahomes converted a series of 1st downs and ran the clock and iced the game.
This game could very well come down to who has the ball last.
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2 missing offensive tackles for KC makes this an even match for me.
this will slow their offense
I'll pick Tampa because of their defense and because Brady just doesn't lose in the SB
probably a last minute drive by Brady for the win
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Mdot/FF All good points the problem the Bills had is sometimes doubled both Hill/Hardman and Mahomey finds Kelce anyway.Chiefs won in TB earlier and had a 20-7 halftime lead.Plus the Chiefs had their backs against the wall and scored twice in 6 minutes in the SB last year.I like Spagnunuolo he was the DC for the Giants when they beat some guy named Brady.Those two tackles out could loom large.If TB back 7 can jam/slow/interupt Chiefs receivers and blitz this could be disruptive. KC has their secret weapon on defense - Taco Charlton.😜
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2 missing offensive tackles for KC makes this an even match for me.
this will slow their offense
I'll pick Tampa because of their defense and because Brady just doesn't lose in the SB
probably a last minute drive by Brady for the win
Yeah, Tampa's front 7 is nasty. They'd have their hands full at full strength. Without BOTH tackles? Will Hill even have time to get downfield?
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Lucky for the Chiefs, Mahommy is mobile
but, those Tampa LBs are heat seeking missiles
Kelce will get his share, but I think Brady can keep up with them, with Mahommy running for his life and the Chief running game stymied
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Maybe in the southern part of the state,not in the NE Ohio.We'd rather have covid than pull for the pierogi munchers.Poles will root for the Russians before we root for the Squeelers
All those river towns in the northeast part of the state are filled with Steeler fans.
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All those river towns in the northeast part of the state are filled with Steeler fans.
Weird. Because of the weird cable deals apparently Erie/Meadville got the Cleveland broadcasts for decades, so that area of NW PA has a heavy contingent of Steelers fans.
The area near the WV panhandle (St. Clairsville, OH/Wheeling) seems close to 50/50
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I'm convinced I can go anywhere in this country and always run into 3 fans of teams from somewhere else; Steelers, Packers and Huskers. I'm sure there's confirmation bias in my mind.
Mildly surprised by the lack of Bengals fans I see despite my proximity to Cincinnati. Plenty of Reds and Buckeyes colors around here in Indy. Though Colts have now been in Indy a bit longer than they were in Baltimore.
It's been awhile since I've watched an entire SB, this game may have my attention.
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All those river towns in the northeast part of the state are filled with Steeler fans.
You must be thinking of the Ohio River where it's prolly 50-50 because the Grand/Ashtabula/Conneaut Rivers are all/mostly Browns Towns
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way too many Steelers fans here in NW Iowa
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saw someone say Brady should be forced by the NFL to go to the Lions next year just to see if he can get them to a Super Bowl. :043:
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Nice going away present
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First QB to take lions to super bowl and win it should automatically be inducted into the hall of fame.
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NFL.com writer says 49ers and Colts should both give up two 1st rd picks for Stafford.
Don’t think Detroit will get that- but man that’s a win if you can get that for a 33 year old QB.
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First QB to take lions to super bowl and win it should automatically be inducted into the hall of fame.
Ya it'll be against the BROWNS and we'll hear that catchy "wait'll next year".It's like the freakin' movie GROUNDHOG DAY
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Watson officially requests a trade from the Texans.
My god if you're Houston ownership how did you screw that up so bad? You had a top 5 WR in Hopkins and got nothing at all for him- and then you just alienated and drove away one of the 5 best QB's in the game and he's only like 26 years old. And I thought the Lions were a bunch of clowns. Jesus Christ.
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Matt Stafford reportedly wants to go to the Colts. I think they get A LOT better if he goes there and might even give them a shot at making a Super Bowl run depending on what other F/A draft moves they make.
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OT James Hudson and CB Benjamin St. Juste getting rave reviews at the Senior Bowl- both have seen their draft stock sky-rocket.
Man would've been nice to have them at Michigan instead of transfer. Harbaugh processed St. Juste and did next to nothing to try to keep James Hudson around. Good job, Jim.
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Matt Stafford reportedly wants to go to the Colts. I think they get A LOT better if he goes there and might even give them a shot at making a Super Bowl run depending on what other F/A draft moves they make.
That was the team that immediately jumped to mind last weekend.
Must be nice to root for a team where Matt Stafford is the 3rd best QB you've had in the past 15 years, instead of the best ever
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That was the team that immediately jumped to mind last weekend.
Must be nice to root for a team where Matt Stafford is the 3rd best QB you've had in the past 15 years, instead of the best ever
Yeah kinda wild if they go from Peyton to Luck to Rivers to Stafford.
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Lions trade Stafford to the LA Rams for Jared Goff. Lions also get a 3rd rd pick in 2021 draft, a 1st rd pick in 2022 and a 1st rd pick in 2023.
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Wow, two 1sts, a 3rd, and a legit starter. Alright. I like that
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Seems rich for Stafford. Is that what they had to offer to get rid of Goff's contract?
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Seems rich for Stafford. Is that what they had to offer to get rid of Goff's contract?
probably a combo of both. win win for both sides.
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Hell, commit to the tank and trade Goff to Indy for a conditional 1st/2nd round pick
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Hell, commit to the tank and trade Goff to Indy for a conditional 1st/2nd round pick
Goff doesn't suck- but he's close to sucks. He's mediocre as it gets. If the Lions could turn around and unload him to a team desperate for a QB like Indi and get a 1st or 2nd in return- they have to do it.
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Goff doesn't suck- but he's close to sucks. He's mediocre as it gets. If the Lions could turn around and unload him to a team desperate for a QB like Indi and get a 1st or 2nd in return- they have to do it.
The trade makes sense for both sides.
from the lions standpoint, I like that they are playing the long game. They have some interesting options now.
They need help badly in defense and can get some in the draft. Also, they could still draft a QB at 7 and develop him for a year like Chiefs did with Mahomes.
this will be fun to watch.
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Lions trade Stafford to the LA Rams for Jared Goff. Lions also get a 3rd rd pick in 2021 draft, a 1st rd pick in 2022 and a 1st rd pick in 2023.
Provided Brad Holmes/John Dorsey aren't affected by the Lions draft day curses - that's larceny.Crap Goff straight up may have been worth it.He got to the Big Dance Stafford I don't believe Stafford has ever won a play off game.While the last season and a half Goff has been trending down not sure he's thru.Same with Wentz
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Dorsey is a peculiar cat,does some magnificent things then follows them up with some real head scratchers.The stars could finally be aligning right for the Lions
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Goff doesn't suck- but he's close to sucks. He's mediocre as it gets. If the Lions could turn around and unload him to a team desperate for a QB like Indi and get a 1st or 2nd in return- they have to do it.
Over the past 4 years (17-20) PFF ranks Stafford #10 among QBs, Goff is #13
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from the lions standpoint, I like that they are playing the long game. They have some interesting options now.
They need help badly in defense and can get some in the draft. Also, they could still draft a QB at 7 and develop him for a year like Chiefs did with Mahomes.
this would be my recommendation
grab one of the top 3 or 4 QBs in the draft at #7
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Ya but he has to be the guy,they have Goff to fall back on - no need to pressure a pick.Jimmy Hasbeen drafted a 28 yr old Brandon Weeden,then the cocky Johnny Footbong.Have to make those high ones count.Look for Lions to stick with Goff for at least the '21 season then it gets cheaper to unload him if things don't work out - from what I've read.Moving forward you have to love this if you're a Lions fan
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How is Jarrod Davis doing for the Lions? LB.
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Is the Super Bowl today?
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Seems rich for Stafford. Is that what they had to offer to get rid of Goff's contract?
Nah, supposedly Washington offered more, but the Lions said they didn't want him to an awful team. 4-5 years w/ a fringe top 10 QB isn't bad for what will prob be 2 mid 20s 1st rounders.
Goff is more than serviceable w/ a running/play action game. Lions should get one of those
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Over the past 4 years (17-20) PFF ranks Stafford #10 among QBs, Goff is #13
Goff has better everything- yet Stafford is ranked better by PFF's advanced metrics.
Goff has way better coaching/stability play-calling in X's and O's wunderkid McVey, Goff has had great OL's and run games- Stafford has never even had a run game- Goff has Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey and a Rams defense that has been upper echelon those entire 4 years- the Lions defense hasn't been anywhere close. And oh yeah Goff has also had better WR's. Lol.
Stafford has had to pretty much carry a sad sack of shit the last 4 years with mediocrity at every position on the team except maybe WR- and he's still performed significantly better than Goff- who over the last 4 years has had one of the best situations of any QB in the league.
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The one team Stafford refused to be traded to: the New England Patriots. LOL.
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Provided Brad Holmes/John Dorsey aren't affected by the Lions draft day curses - that's larceny.Crap Goff straight up may have been worth it.He got to the Big Dance Stafford I don't believe Stafford has ever won a play off game.While the last season and a half Goff has been trending down not sure he's thru.Same with Wentz
C'mon man. Goff didn't get them to the big dance. Todd Gurley, their running game, and a hellacious defense lead by Aaron Donald got them there.
Goff is literally only good when the RB's are rushing for 150+ a game and he can hit wide open throws off of a play-action. He can't read defenses, he makes really dumb turnovers and mistakes, and he's not a leader. The Rams were openly trying to get rid of him. McVey was done with his mediocrity and said- I want better at QB.
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Sorry Mdot don't cherry pick 3 years back when Goff was in his groove throwing darts no one would make that trade.And let's not forget Stafford for a spell was tossing to some guy named CJ.Straight up in their primes which Goff still might hit I'd prolly tap Stafford but still this is a windfall for Detroit.And Stafford didn't want to go to NE because Patricia landed there - good move on his part.If you think about it The Rams screwed the pooch,I'd bet dollars and donuts they could have grabbed Watson at what was offered.Any team that would top that is delusional.Just one well placed hit renders a deal like that one sided
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Sorry Mdot don't cherry pick 3 years back when Goff was in his groove throwing darts no one would make that trade.And let's not forget Stafford for a spell was tossing to some guy named CJ.Straight up in their primes which Goff still might hit I'd prolly tap Stafford but still this is a windfall for Detroit.And Stafford didn't want to go to NE because Patricia landed there - good move on his part.If you think about it The Rams screwed the pooch,I'd bet dollars and donuts they could have grabbed Watson at what was offered.Any team that would top that is delusional.Just one well placed hit renders a deal like that one sided
Taking on Goff’s contract was definitely a reason why they got so much.
Watson is going to require like 4 1st round picks and maybe some additional stuff. He’s going to smash this Stafford deal. He’s younger and better.
Stafford is being slept on though. He is legit and his arm talent is right up there with Mahomes or Rodgers- the guy can make ridiculous throws into tight windows- he’s got a straight up cannon.
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Watson is going to require like 4 1st round picks and maybe some additional stuff. He’s going to smash this Stafford deal. He’s younger and better.
Stafford is being slept on though. He is legit and his arm talent is right up there with Mahomes or Rodgers- the guy can make ridiculous throws into tight windows- he’s got a straight up cannon.
Bull,a move like that has disaster written all over it.Watson may have all the measurables but that's a fools errand.Just because the Rams over paid doesn't mean every one else has to.They backed up the trucks in Baltimore for Flacco and he actually won a Championship but it was one step forward two steps back after that - they couldn't pay anyone else.Football more than any other sport is a team game.Take Hoops LeBron/Jordan could carry 4 schmucks into the playoffs - they've already done it.Tom Brady/Bradshaw/Montana/Elway at their best could never do that - just way too many positions to satisfy
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Bull,a move like that has disaster written all over it.Watson may have all the measurables but that's a fools errand.Just because the Rams over paid doesn't mean every one else has to.They backed up the trucks in Baltimore for Flacco and he actually won a Championship but it was one step forward two steps back after that - they couldn't pay anyone else.Football more than any other sport is a team game.Take Hoops LeBron/Jordan could carry 4 schmucks into the playoffs - they've already done it.Tom Brady/Bradshaw/Montana/Elway at their best could never do that - just way too many positions to satisfy
There isn’t a high enough price to be paid for a true franchise QB. The NFL will over pay for QBs. Always have always will.
Watson is going to bring a kings ransom.
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I think it'll be a stand off,he hasn't proven shit.He has all the tools but the asking price is still too high.You won't/can't staff a roster after losing all of that.Suck it up and go play for a shit team many have had to - or sit and lose a couple of million before you realize you really have no problems
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I think it'll be a stand off,he hasn't proven shit.He has all the tools but the asking price is still too high.You won't/can't staff a roster after losing all of that.Suck it up and go play for a shit team many have had to - or sit and lose a couple of million before you realize you really have no problems
He’s proven to be one of the best QBs in the NFL. He lead the entire league in pass yards with 4,800+ and had 33 TD’s vs 7 INT. Texans should trade him if they can get a boatload in return and just rebuild.
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This past season yes in 2020 QB rankings had him 4th behind Rodgers,Mahomes and Josh Allen
2017 PFF rated him 29th in the league his QB rating was 83.5,
2018 PFF ranked him 11th with a 61.8 QBR
2019 PFF ranked him 12th with a QBR of 70.5
My point is I think Houston should have grabbed that chance if it was offered.Teams would emaciate themselves if they coughed up any more.Going to be interesting that is for sure
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The one team Stafford refused to be traded to: the New England Patriots. LOL.
This translates to "Holy hell Matt Patricia must just be awful to be around"
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This translates to "Holy hell Matt Patricia must just be awful to be around"
Yup. Patricia is a clown. And hey who would’ve thought that the “Patriot Way” doesn’t work when you don’t have Tom Brady in the locker room to lead and all those Super Bowl and AFC Conference championship banners hanging from the rafters in the stadium.
When will NFL teams learn. Every head coach hire from the Belichik tree has just been complete dog shit clown show after complete dog shit clown show. Man-jina, Crennel, McDaniels, Weiss, Patricia, BOB, and I’m sure there’s others I’m forgetting. Brian Flores seems like the only one that’s working but it’s still early and plenty of time for that one to blow up and fall apart.
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The sad thing is Patricia was like the 8th go at it. We knew. This wasn't Weiss or Crenell 15 years ago
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When will NFL teams learn. Every head coach hire from the Belichik tree has just been complete dog shit clown show after complete dog shit clown show. Man-jina, Crennel, McDaniels, Weiss, Patricia, BOB, and I’m sure there’s others I’m forgetting.
BOB did a damn good job in Happy Valley,not so much in H-Town
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I actually think BOB was a good NFL HC. He was a lousy NFL GM. If Houston could've kept him on as HC, but removed his GM responsibilities, I think that would've worked best. His GM moves were beyond awful. Just totally ruined a great roster.
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I actually think BOB was a good NFL HC. He was a lousy NFL GM. If Houston could've kept him on as HC, but removed his GM responsibilities, I think that would've worked best. His GM moves were beyond awful. Just totally ruined a great roster.
Dude single handedly ruined the entire franchise. I'd say that qualifies as being a clown/shit show.
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Eagles reportedly shopping Wentz.
So if I’m the Lions here- I try to unload Goff to Indy for a 1st and then I try and trade for Wentz and offer the Eagles like a 4th.
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I knew a guy in Ohio that named his dawg after Crennell.
The dog of course outlasted the HC by a pretty good clip, so after that he just had a dog named Romeo for no particularly good reason.
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Mrs. 847 wants to watch the game Sunday so she can root for Tampa. Says it's her team now.
I guess that's the difference when someone (her) moves 15 times in her life around the country versus someone (me) who has been in Chicago his whole life.
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Mrs. 847 wants to watch the game Sunday so she can root for Tampa. Says it's her team now.
I guess that's the difference when someone (her) moves 15 times in her life around the country versus someone (me) who has been in Chicago his whole life.
Ha- makes sense.
I have no dog in the fight so don’t really care who wins. Hoping for an entertaining game, some funny commercials, and praying that they don’t over politicize the commercials and all the other hoopla that surrounds the game.
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I knew a guy in Ohio that named his dawg after Crennell.
The dog of course outlasted the HC by a pretty good clip, so after that he just had a dog named Romeo for no particularly good reason.
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Mrs. 847 wants to watch the game Sunday so she can root for Tampa. Says it's her team now.
I guess that's the difference when someone (her) moves 15 times in her life around the country versus someone (me) who has been in Chicago his whole life.
maybe she thinks Tom Brady is handsome?
besides, gotta be better than rooting for Da Bears ;)
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I knew a guy in Ohio that named his dawg after Crennell.
The dog of course outlasted the HC by a pretty good clip, so after that he just had a dog named Romeo for no particularly good reason.
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Mahomes is the greatest today, Brady greatest of all time.
Never thought I’d see another Aaron Rodgers who could make those kinds of ridiculous accurate down field throws on the run and off balance- but that’s exactly who Mahomes reminds me of. He’s got a stronger arm than Rodgers and he’s a little bigger and a little more athletic. Rodgers has a quicker release and is a little bit more accurate with his ball placement- but that’s exactly who Mahomes reminds me of- a slightly bigger, slightly more athletic Rodgers with a little bit more arm strength to boot.
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In last seasons SB Mahomey was Kid Cool down by 2 scores with 6 minutes left.He's like we got 'em right where we want 'em
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In last seasons SB Mahomey was Kid Cool down by 2 scores with 6 minutes left.He's like we got 'em right where we want 'em
He’s very Peyton/Brady/Montana/Elway-esque in the 4th QTR. Mahomes seems to raise his play when his team is down.
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very similar to Tom Terrific
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very similar to Tom Terrific
The one and only Tom Terrific played baseball.
https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2019/08/23/tom-brady-tom-terrific-trademark-rejected (https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2019/08/23/tom-brady-tom-terrific-trademark-rejected)
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I remember the one and only
I remember the 69 Mets
25 wins and the Cy Young for Tom
and a young Nolan Ryan
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In '69 Baltimore Folks learned to HATE NY.The Mets/Orioles,the Jets/Colts then in '71 the Knicks bested the Bullets
Baltimore Fans like
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QB's chosen in the 2017 draft:
2. Mitch Trubisky
10. Patrick Mahomes
12. Deshawn Watson
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Gotta admit Trubisky is a disappointment.Played lites out in HS ball here in Ohio took his team to the state final and really delivered in crunch time.He was accurate, made all the throws and had all the measurables just hasn't transferred to the pro game over all
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In '69 Baltimore Folks learned to HATE NY.The Mets/Orioles,the Jets/Colts then in '71 the Knicks bested the Bullets
the 69 birds had a pretty solid line-up
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Gotta admit Trubisky is a disappointment.Played lites out in HS ball here in Ohio took his team to the state final and really delivered in crunch time.He was accurate, made all the throws and had all the measurables just hasn't transferred to the pro game over all
Eh... I have high confidence in the consistency of the Chicago Bears...
...they could have ruined Mahomes or Watson just as badly.
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Eh... I have high confidence in the consistency of the Chicago Bears...
...they could have ruined Mahomes or Watson just as badly.
This. More so Mahomes than Watson. I feel like Watson would’ve been a good player almost anywhere- probably not as good as he is now had he gone to Chicago- but still good. Watson was as close to a finished product as it gets coming out of Clemson.
Mahomes had immense talent but needed a lot of work cleaning up his game. No way Mahomes is the star he is now without Andy Reid coaching him up and dialing up that offense and that firepower/weapons KC has.
Situation matters so much to a young player- especially a QB. Tribusky was probably always going to be average at best- but put him in a bad situation like a Chicago and he’s below average. I feel the same way about Sam Darnold.
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the 69 birds had a pretty solid line-up
The Birds also learned to hate the Pirates.That 4-20 game winner squad lost in 7 to the '71 Pirates in the series.Also left at the alter in '79 again by the Pirates
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Tribusky was probably always going to be average at best- but put him in a bad situation like a Chicago and he’s below average. I feel the same way about Sam Darnold.
I firmly believe with their massive guaranteed contracts.Many of these guys just quit trying after a few bad years.If they were hungry they'd still be grinding
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I would not be hungry with a fat, guaranteed contract.
Trubisky was a potential-over-production pick in the first place. I found it odd he was drafted that high.
Mahomes' physical tools were evident, but no one was quite sure how much of it was the system at Texas Tech. A half-dozen other guys put up video game numbers there, too.
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I would not be hungry with a fat, guaranteed contract.
Trubisky was a potential-over-production pick in the first place. I found it odd he was drafted that high.
Mahomes' physical tools were evident, but no one was quite sure how much of it was the system at Texas Tech. A half-dozen other guys put up video game numbers there, too.
Yeah, Trubisky only started one year at North Carolina. And while he put up very good numbers, he didn’t put up earth shattering, record breaking numbers.
Mahomes put up video game numbers but he was probably the first Texas Tech QB to have the evident elite physical traits in terms of size, mobility, and arm strength. He also displayed a lot of sloppy mechanics and footwork and risk taking and some bad turnovers at TT. Something that Andy Reid needed to sit him down for a year and clean up and coach up. Mahomes was clearly more talented than Trubisky- but for whatever reason Trubisky went ahead of him.
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Not sure if anyone has seen this
CHIEFS ASST. BRETT REID INVOLVED IN SERIOUS DUI CRASH
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30842264/kansas-city-chiefs-assistant-coach-britt-reid-involved-multi-car-crash-life-threatening-injuries (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30842264/kansas-city-chiefs-assistant-coach-britt-reid-involved-multi-car-crash-life-threatening-injuries)
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I remember the one and only
I remember the 69 Mets
25 wins and the Cy Young for Tom
and a young Nolan Ryan
He is by far my favorite baseball player of all time. I was 9 years old in 69 and I was just loved watching him pitch. At one time, I had a complete line of Topps Tom Seaver baseball cards from Rookie year to retirement.
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Nolan is my favorite pitcher
I was 7 in 69
I had a shoe box full of great baseball cards.
My mother wasn't kidding when she said (for maybe the 20th time) that she would burn them if I left them on the floor one more time.
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Peyton Manning, Charles Woodson, and Calvin Johnson make the Hall of Fame as first ballot. I knew Manning & Woodson were locks for that- good to see the dumbass voters got it right with Megatron- I was afraid they weren’t going to.
Alan Faneca, John Lynch, Drew Pearson, Tom Flores, and Bill Nunn are the others inducted into the Hall.
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Aaron Rodgers wins MVP. Aaron Donald wins Defensive Player of the Year.
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Posted this yesterday IMO could more than put a damper on things
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30842264/kansas-city-chiefs-assistant-coach-britt-reid-involved-multi-car-crash-life-threatening-injuries
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Nolan is my favorite pitcher
Was a youngin' in '72 when an older brother and BIL took me to old Cleveland Stadium to see Ryan with the Angels.Course the indians sucked but I thought they could beat anyone.My BIL told my brother the Tribe won't even see the pitches let alone hit them - he was right.I was in little league and came away impressed to say the least
I had a shoe box full of great baseball cards.
Shudder when I think about the amount that went into my spokes of my bike.But then again like the old Miller Lite commercial about Marv Throneberry
https://youtu.be/dY-ZtKpSkzE
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Was a youngin' in '72 when an older brother and BIL took me to old Cleveland Stadium to see Ryan with the Angels.Course the indians sucked but I thought they could beat anyone.My BIL told my brother the Tribe won't even see the pitches let alone hit them - he was right.I was in little league and came away impressed to say the least
Shudder when I think about the amount that went into my spokes of my bike.But then again like the old Miller Lite commercial about Marv Throneberry
https://youtu.be/dY-ZtKpSkzE
I had Reggie jackson s rookie card. Great right. Except it had randy Reese s blood on it. We were flipping cards and got into a fight and I bloodied his nose. It was actually the last physical fight that I remember getting in to
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For some reason I thought you were church involved or in the Clergy.Anyway be nice if folks could go thru life's ups/downs w/o tossing haymakers or at least going as long as you have
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unfortunately, sometimes conflict is unavoidable
especially growing up
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Gonna be a long off season might as well watch it
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I always hate when the quarterback is getting sacked and intentionally throws the ball into the ground to avoid it. Seems like there would be a rule against that.
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Nolan Ryan would fit right into today's MLB: all Ks and walks, no hits.
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he fit in pretty well in the 60s, 70s, and 80s
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KC punter needs a haircut
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He's a Gator!
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If KC has to pull Golden Boy for Chad Henne, MDot's pants might just fly right off of his body.
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Bucs moving ball more effectively than I would’ve expected. Brady tossing 2 TDs to Gronk is the 2014 escape we’ve all needed.
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Tampa's defense against two backup tackles is unfair
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and a backup center and twice retired guard
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16 for 20 - 3 TDs
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Tampa's defense against two backup tackles is unfair
This.
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This half time show sucks.
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I'm just grateful that there wasn't a wardrobe malfunction.
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I'm just grateful that there wasn't a wardrobe malfunction.
That was great man. Janet Jackson was smoking hot back in the day.
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Yes, in that particular case I didn't mind so much.
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Certainly didn't move me like Shakira did
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Now Shakira should have had a wardrobe malfunction.
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Certainly didn't move me like Shakira did
Shakira is maybe the sexiest singer of all time. She’s Colombian- which isn’t fair- they are the sexiest women in the world- but also by far the craziest. Think: the movie Blow.
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is just me or does KC’s kicker look like Ryan Mallett? Looks like a skinny meth-head redneck from Arkansas or something. Dudes got a heckuva leg- that one was like 53 yards.
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Antoine Winfield Jr got robbed of Defensive Rookie of the Year. No disrespect to Chase Young who is a phenomenal player.
AW Jr has the same crazy football iq and instincts of his daddy. Kid is gonna be a great player for a long time. What a steal for Tampa in the 2nd rd. He was a 1st round talent all the way.
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game over
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Fournette is running harder than he has all season. That’s the guy who dominated at LSU.
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missed halftime
was cleaning the kitchen
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That snap was so dangerous omg.
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Only a FG?
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suckup sticking it to his old team
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Hill is the most dangerous offensive player since like Moss or Barry Sanders. Every time he touches it- it’s breath taking.
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Only a FG?
Center snapped the ball 10 yards over Brady’s head on 3rd down. Was almost a disaster until Brady ran it down and just fell on it.
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Don’t get taking a deep shot on 3rd and a very short 1 and then punting. QB sneak it. Pick up that 1st down and keep running clock and game over.
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KC shot themselves in the foot with stupid penalties and dropped balls.
I'm not saying they win with those differences, but it's a more competitive game than this crap if they do.
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Antoine Winfield Jr got robbed of Defensive Rookie of the Year. No disrespect to Chase Young who is a phenomenal player.
AW Jr has the same crazy football iq and instincts of his daddy. Kid is gonna be a great player for a long time. What a steal for Tampa in the 2nd rd. He was a 1st round talent all the way.
😂
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Springsteen now wants to meet in the middle.
G F Y
😂😂😂😂😂
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OSU has 4 of the past 5 defensive rookies of the year. That's sick.
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Well Winfield is awesome.
But saying he got robbed is silly. He finished 4th in the voting-with 1 vote out of 47.
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Flashbacks of young Suh right there. That was awesome.
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winfield taunting like a punk
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Winfield called for the taunt after he breaks up a pass on Tyrek Hill. No reason for that young’n. Don’t be like the classless Chiefs- take your W with class.
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This is embarrassing. Will they just end the f****ng game.
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Chiefs should take a knee before Mahomes gets his knees broken
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Tampa defense straight up awesome today
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Can't make the stretch between Tony Romo and 17 mil per,just not hearing it
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Can't make the stretch between Tony Romo and 17 mil per,just not hearing it
Why would Brees or any QB take those hits in the nfl when they can sit in the Tv booth and collect a $17 mil pay check lol.
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Chiefs O-line missing too many
Told everyone Mahomes would be running for his life
no o-line, can't run the ball, can pass block, can't pass
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Winfield called for the taunt after he breaks up a pass on Tyrek Hill. No reason for that young’n. Don’t be like the classless Chiefs- take your W with class.
Tyrann Mathieu is no one to emulate when it comes to class. You're right.
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Chiefs O-line missing too many
Told everyone Mahomes would be running for his life
no o-line, can't run the ball, can pass block, can't pass
Ya,just wasn't the two tackles either,TB with TB dealing TDs and Chefs dinking 3putts occassionally wasn't working
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if Brady comes back and wins his 8th does he retire?
Kind of insane to even wrap your head around him having 7 Super Bowl titles and 10 starts in the Super Bowl.
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I think he has like ten more years in him. Lmao.
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Some businesses that advertised during Tom Brady’s first Super Bowl:
AOL
Blockbuster
Radio Shack
Circuit City
CompUSA
Sears
HotJobs
Yahoo
VoiceStream Wireless
Gateway Computers
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https://twitter.com/MattLight/status/1358625685741395968?s=09
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https://twitter.com/StatsbyLopez/status/1358620162904248320?s=19
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Hope none of you guys got drunk on school nite for that
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Kinda blows by mind that Brady is actually a fluke helmet catch and a Wes Welker drop away from having 9 titles.
Nick Foles and Eli Manning still the only QBs to beat him in the Super Bowl. Crazy.
Just think of the teams he’s stopped from being a dynasty. Greatest Show Rams, Legion of Boom Seahawks, and now Mahomboys Point-a-Minute Chiefs. All got only 1 with TB12 standing in their way.
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https://twitter.com/StatsbyLopez/status/1358620162904248320?s=19
Bowles blitzed like 50+% of the defensive snaps all season long. Even in that KC game in the regular season when Hill went berserk in the 1st QTR- Bowles was blitzing KC and playing man to man that entire first half and got torched.
Today- Tampa blitzed only 5 times all Super Bowl. They got pressure mainly with 4 and behind that pressure they gave Mahomes nowhere to throw deep because they mostly played zone with 2 safeties deep way back around 85% of their defensive snaps.
Great defensive adjustment by Bowles and great effort by Shaq Barrett, JPP, Suh, Will Gholston, and Vita Vea. Those guys dominated KC's OL.
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As illustrated above Tampa Bay beat the Chiefs by making Mahomes run for his life all night. A tried and true counter to outstanding QBs like Mahomes.
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If Brady's graph was the top one, he'd be dead.
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if Brady comes back and wins his 8th does he retire?
Kind of insane to even wrap your head around him having 7 Super Bowl titles and 10 starts in the Super Bowl.
Kind of insane to even wrap your head around giong home to a nekid bread winner Gisele
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Kind of insane to even wrap your head around giong home to a nekid bread winner Gisele
One reason why the Patriots could afford to keep the party going is that until this year, Gisele makes double what he made.
Tom Brady has more rings than Minnesota sports teams have semifinal appearances since 1991 (Vikings 4 NFC Champ, Twins 1 ALCS, Wolves/Wild 1 WCF each)
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Kinda blows by mind that Brady is actually a fluke helmet catch and a Wes Welker drop away from having 9 titles.
If we're going to factor in what ifs he'd never beat the Rams because he'd never been there(tuck rule).Also the Falcons 2nd half no-show - all time collapse if they'd just put 7 pts in the 2nd half when they steam rolled to a 28-3 1st half lead they'd of won.Scratch another couple off w/o Adam Vinateiri or Stephen Gostkowski.It definitely more than evens out.As OAM points out if that's Brady running for his life he gets no ring.And then he lands Gisele - face it he's also one lucky MFer
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For some reason I thought you were church involved or in the Clergy.Anyway be nice if folks could go thru life's ups/downs w/o tossing haymakers or at least going as long as you have
Yes, I was a Pastor for quite awhile, I stepped down years ago, but still a church goer.
BTW, at the time, I had no idea who Reggie Jackson was. It wasn't until years later when Baseball cards started growing in value that I actually looked through my cards and found it.
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Can't make the stretch between Tony Romo and 17 mil per,just not hearing it
A breath of fresh air his first season in the booth, been steadily downhill since.
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Yes, I was a Pastor for quite awhile, I stepped down years ago, but still a church goer.
BTW, at the time, I had no idea who Reggie Jackson was. It wasn't until years later when Baseball cards started growing in value that I actually looked through my cards and found it.
remember Reggie's rookie season 1968, well first full season with the A's. Kid was full of hustle. All around player. Although, he always struck out a lot.
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Reggie-vision
https://youtu.be/O_7b0Tikb_I?t=25
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If Brady's graph was the top one, he'd be dead.
That’s not even a joke lol.
Mahomes made a couple insane deep throws on the run- including one where he threw the ball while he was in the air falling to the ground that were accurate enough to be caught- my jaw literally dropped to the floor.
I never thought in a million years we’d see another Aaron Rodgers- but that’s exactly who Mahomes reminds me of- just the bigger more athletic version with more arm strength.
I always thought Elway and Marino were the best pure throwers of the football I’ve ever seen- but I think Rodgers and Mahomes have overtaken them both.
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I always thought Elway and Marino were the best pure throwers of the football I’ve ever seen- but I think Rodgers and Mahomes have overtaken them both.
These two adonises beg to differ
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Mahomes has already made insane throws that Aaron Rodgers has not nor ever will make
such as a couple of those last night
the other one, was the throw that hit the pylon in the back of the endzone and hit his receiver in the hand while being tossed to the ground
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Is it true that the streaker got more yards in the game than did Kansas City?
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Yep, as I said last night the game might have gone a little differently if the KC defense wasn't committing stupid penalties and if the KC receivers had bailed Mahomes out by actually catching the well-thrown balls he was sending at them while he was running for his damn life.
Note--not blaming the refs. The penalties were legitimate, but many of them came at REALLY inopportune times to extend TB drives. Especially the one where an away-from-the-play defensive holding call negated an interception, the PI on a Brady overthrown deep ball that set up the final TB TD in the first half, and the lining up in the neutral zone on a FG attempt that gave TB a first down instead (led to a TD as well IIRC).
The dominance of the TB DL was as expected against a hampered KC OL. Mahomes was only sacked 3 times, which is a credit to his ability to escape and scramble--most QBs would have been dropped many more last night. Yet Mahomes was still making throws when pressured--his receivers just weren't catching the ball.
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Evidently the call on Winfield was paying back Hill for taunts earlier in the year.Think my admiration for Mahomes is surpassed by skin crawling disgust for Hill.
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regardless what Hill did earlier in the year, Winfield was stupid and cost his team
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regardless what Hill did earlier in the year, Winfield was stupid and cost his team
this. have got to be the bigger man and not hurt the team. The ass whopping his team gave KC/Hill should've been enough for Winfield.
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Evidently the call on Winfield was paying back Hill for taunts earlier in the year.Think my admiration for Mahomes is surpassed by skin crawling disgust for Hill.
This. Mahomes is the only guy on that team I can even stomach. He's a Michigan guy- but Frank Clark is a turd, Chris Jones too, Mathieu is a whiny thug, Hill is a child beating sicko, and Kelce aka White Chocolate aka Malibu's Most Wanted is the biggest cornball of all-time.
I have no idea how anybody could root for Kansas City. They are the most unlikeable team of all-time if you ask me. Nothing but classless showboats and thugs. Andy Reid basically just attracts women/child beaters and drug addicts- as long as they can win him football games- it's all good.
Brady, Gronk, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Devin White, LaVonte David- now those are some stand-up guys.
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Mahomes has already made insane throws that Aaron Rodgers has not nor ever will make
such as a couple of those last night
the other one, was the throw that hit the pylon in the back of the endzone and hit his receiver in the hand while being tossed to the ground
I don't know man. Rodgers has made some INSANE throws himself. That one vs the Cowboys kills me every time.
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Yep, as I said last night the game might have gone a little differently if the KC defense wasn't committing stupid penalties and if the KC receivers had bailed Mahomes out by actually catching the well-thrown balls he was sending at them while he was running for his damn life.
Note--not blaming the refs. The penalties were legitimate, but many of them came at REALLY inopportune times to extend TB drives. Especially the one where an away-from-the-play defensive holding call negated an interception, the PI on a Brady overthrown deep ball that set up the final TB TD in the first half, and the lining up in the neutral zone on a FG attempt that gave TB a first down instead (led to a TD as well IIRC).
The dominance of the TB DL was as expected against a hampered KC OL. Mahomes was only sacked 3 times, which is a credit to his ability to escape and scramble--most QBs would have been dropped many more last night. Yet Mahomes was still making throws when pressured--his receivers just weren't catching the ball.
Away from the play doesn't matter- defensive holding is defensive holding- and that was an egregious hold. If it was real close, ticky-tack bang-bang- I say let them play- but that was just really bad holding- it was a mugging. They have to call that all the time. The ones that bother me are the really ticky tack ones- I lean on the side of- let them play for the most part- but muggings cannot be accepted- and that was a straight up mugging.
The PI on Breeland against Evans was absolutely the right call all the way- Evans had him smoked and the guy tackled him. Watch the replay again in full speed and in slow mo. In full speed- looks like Evans could've possibly got to that ball- and after all he is 6'5" runs a 4.5, has a 40" vertical, has giant paws for hands and a long ass wingspan- there is no telling if he wasn't interfered with if he could've dove out for that ball and got his hands on it. It only looked uncatchable in the slow mo replay. During the play in real-time, to me- it looked like he might've actually been able to get to it. You have to call PI on that everytime- defender can't just dive at a players feet and shoestring tackle them when they get beat- which is exactly what Breeland did. Breeland was roasted and he flat out just took Evans' feet out.
The penalty I had a problem with was the last one on that drive- where Mathieu got called for a PI in the end-zone- now that was uncatchable- Brady threw that out the back of the end-zone.
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The penalty I had a problem with was the last one on that drive- where Mathieu got called for a PI in the end-zone- now that was uncatchable- Brady threw that out the back of the end-zone.
yup
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https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1358923333786566656?s=19
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I expected the pressure pass rush vs Mahomes with the O-line issues, but I was surprised at Lavonte David's play defending passes vs Kelce.
David is getting old and slow. Kelce is one of the fastest TEs in the league
Kelce got his catches and over 100 yards, but he was limited.
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This might be why the NFL is basically dead to me:
6 teams had a better record than Tampa Bay this year and 4 others had the same record as Tampa Bay (so TB was no better than 10 other teams, by record)
or
a 7-9 team made the playoffs while a 10-6 team stayed home
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the Bucs got a 3rd shot against the Saints, finally beating them in the playoffs
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the champs lost 3 of 4 games, but it was fine, because they were 5-3. As long as people could bet against the spread and Brady helped my fantasy team, whether they won or lost any individual game was largely meaningless.
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expanding the playoffs for more teams and more games to make more money is always a good idea
what could go wrong?
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I don't know man. Rodgers has made some INSANE throws himself. That one vs the Cowboys kills me every time.
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This might be why the NFL is basically dead to me:
6 teams had a better record than Tampa Bay this year and 4 others had the same record as Tampa Bay (so TB was no better than 10 other teams, by record)
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a 7-9 team made the playoffs while a 10-6 team stayed home
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the Bucs got a 3rd shot against the Saints, finally beating them in the playoffs
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the champs lost 3 of 4 games, but it was fine, because they were 5-3. As long as people could bet against the spread and Brady helped my fantasy team, whether they won or lost any individual game was largely meaningless.
you're smoking something. There is nothing- and I mean literally nothing in sports better than the NFL playoffs.
The regular season is all about playoff seeding- that is all it's ever been about. Home teams usually makes it to the Super Bowl.
Then you have magical wild-card runs where a team just gets hot towards the end of the season and ignites like Green Bay back in 2010 and Tampa just did in 2020.
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that was the single greatest throw I think I've ever seen.
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Then you have magical wild-card runs where a team just gets hot towards the end of the season and ignites like Green Bay back in 2010 and Tampa just did in 2020.
The New York *cough* Giants
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The New York *cough* Giants
Damn- can't believe I forgot the greatest example of that ever- they took out the 18-0 would be 19-0 undefeated Patriots. Probably the greatest NFL team ever- and the Giants pulled off the improbable upset.
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Brady is both good and lucky
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Damn- can't believe I forgot the greatest example of that ever- they took out the 18-0 would be 19-0 undefeated Patriots. Probably the greatest NFL team ever- and the Giants pulled off the improbable upset.
Most think the best team ever NOT being the champion is good (entertainment).
I just happen to think it's stupid (competition).
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There's nothing romantic about it - a 9-7 team will beat a 16-0 team X% of the time, and that was one of those times. The problem is having a 9-7 team being in a position to do so in the first place.
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Here, you're 1 game over .500, please accept this invitation to the playoffs. Wow, you "got hot," please accept this invitation to our Super Bowl.
Holy cow! You won! Now hoist this trophy and wear this ring as you pretend you're better than the best team ever.
No thanks.
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The New York *cough* Giants
don't forget the 1980 Raiders - SB champs as wildcard
they were 11-5, not terrible
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They beat the Browns on the Lake Front in one freakin' cold game
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I hated the Raiders back then
beat my vikes badly in the SP after the 76 season
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JJ Watt released by the Texans. Speculation that he’s going to Pittsburgh to join his brothers.
I know he’s past his prime now and has been plagued with injuries- but they should’ve tried to move him a year or two ago and get draft compensation- now they’ll get nothing.
They let Clowney walk, Honeybadger walk, cut JJ Watt, and traded Hopkins for a ham sandwich. Those are 3 premier players and a pretty good one in Clowney and they got nothing back for any of them. Talk about the most poorly run organization in the NFL.
If they had half a brain they’d trade Watson for a kings ransom and rebuild.
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They let Clowney walk, Honeybadger walk, cut JJ Watt, and traded Hopkins for a ham sandwich. Those are 3 premier players and a pretty good one in Clowney and they got nothing back for any of them. Talk about the most poorly run organization in the NFL.
If they had half a brain they’d trade Watson for a kings ransom and rebuild.
Even the front offices in Cleveland/Detroit are like WTF
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Most overrated athlete ever? Bill Russell. He was not a dominant individual player who put up league leading stats like Wilt Chamberlain, he played in an era of mostly unathletic white players in the NBA, and there were wait for it...a grand total of 8 teams in the NBA. Most of his "11 championships" came when there were only 7 other teams to play against.
Not impressed.
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He could only play who came out there.Back then they also played defense and and called traveling.You could easily shaved a 3rd of Jordan drives off the books.And they definitely didn't get invited to the post season to sooth they're aching hearts.Russel didn't have free agents signed to benefit his later runs either,Ron Harper,Dennis Rodman,Steve Kerr,John Paxson
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JJ Watt released by the Texans. Speculation that he’s going to Pittsburgh to join his brothers.
I know he’s past his prime now and has been plagued with injuries- but they should’ve tried to move him a year or two ago and get draft compensation- now they’ll get nothing.
They let Clowney walk, Honeybadger walk, cut JJ Watt, and traded Hopkins for a ham sandwich. Those are 3 premier players and a pretty good one in Clowney and they got nothing back for any of them. Talk about the most poorly run organization in the NFL.
If they had half a brain they’d trade Watson for a kings ransom and rebuild.
We'll be happy to take JJ. He's prob good for 8-12 sacks w/ this D if he stays healthy. I hope he likes playing for the minimum tho, the steelers are 50M? over the cap.
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Thoght I heard he's getting 21 mil. per - not a bargain
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JJ Watt signs with the Cardinals. He must really NOT want to win a Super Bowl. He'd have been better off taking a hometown discount to play for Green Bay or taking the vet min to play for Tampa Bay. He's got effectively zero shot of winning a Super Bowl over the next 2-3 years in Arizona, imo.
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I'm guessing the agent talked JJ into taking the best $$$
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Disappointing move by JJ there.
Anyway, the Bears hired Tom Hermann today.
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I'm guessing the agent talked JJ into taking the best $$$
Hasn’t he already signed two huge contracts with the Texans? Including one of them being for over $100mil? Plus he’s got to have money from off-field ventures.
If he was a guy that never got the big pay day- sure take the money. But he’s gotten a couple big pay days and you’d think for someone who was as great as him- he’d want a Super Bowl or two on the resume.
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apparently, not as smart as Suh and Brady and Gronk
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apparently, not as smart as Suh and Brady and Gronk
Brady is going to hang on for dear life to try to get 10 rings imo. He'll have a great shot at 8 in 2021 at age 44 and if he does get 8- he's just going to keep going, but in order to get to 10 he'd have to play until like 50. Oddly, I wouldn't put it past him.
If he were to actually get 10 Super Bowl rings, he'd become the most mythical sports figure in US history.
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mostly depends on health
one big hit and it's time to retire
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Watt had 5? sacks last year. Granted he was double teamed a lot and the Texans were gutted so it should be better.
That being said, you want to have an, albeit slight, chance to win a SB Arizona, go all in on the pass rush. The OLs might be the soft underbelly of the very good NFC west. You already have a good pass rush. Wait to see if Clowney gets offers and if he doesn't offer a low salary maybe it works out great. If not Clowney sign/trade for another (Eagles rebuilding, Fletcher Cox?). Use a high pick on a pass rusher or better yet 2 high picks.
You get by w/ hopefully mild improvement from Murray, seperate yourself from the NFC west and what's left is 2 old QBs facing down a front 7 of good pass rushers.
The teams that win SBs w/o great QB play, win SBs w/ a pass rush.
However if they only got him to replace Reddick, that's a more expensive downgrade and lol.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9Hm7PeTMw
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However if they only got him to replace Reddick, that's a more expensive downgrade and lol.
Hasson Reddick is only 26 and just came off a 12.5 sack season. JJ Watt is 32, had 5 sacks last season and the injuries have robbed him of his once upon a time all-time greatness- he's just a shell of his former self. It was a bad singing for a guy looking to win- and it was a bad signing for a team looking to build a winner.
Giving Watt $31 million over 2 years and $23mil guaranteed probably means they won't be re-signing Reddick- who is a free agent. Dumb move by both parties. It was a money grab for JJ and a PR stunt by the Cardinals.
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Dak Prescott got paid
6-10 never looked so good
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Dak Prescott got paid
6-10 never looked so good
The salary cap system in the NFL is broken. They were damned if they did, damned if they didn't.
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salary cap???
just call it a signing bonus
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The salary cap system in the NFL is broken. They were damned if they did, damned if they didn't.
They need to make some sort of QB exception rule with the money they are paying QB's these days.
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They need to make some sort of QB exception rule with the money they are paying QB's these days.
I agree.
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They need to make some sort of QB exception rule with the money they are paying QB's these days.
NFLPA-NFL should have pushed for a max salary. Most gains in the salary cap that the players have gotten over the past decade have gone straight into the pocket of QBs.
Franchise tag is bad for everyone else. However if you are a QB, its better if you if you force the team to franchise you.
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They need to make some sort of QB exception rule with the money they are paying QB's these days.
They need to make some sort of extortion rules with what they are demanding from fans
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Dak Prescott got paid
6-10 never looked so good
I think he's a lot better than any of us realized. Dallas has been a disaster when he's not the starting QB.
Leadership really matters at QB more than any other position on the team. If the QB is THE leader in the locker room and the hardest worker on the team and gets everyone else to buy in and follow his lead- makes a huge difference on the field in wins and losses. Dak has that leadership ability in spades.
Single biggest downfall of a guy like Aaron Rodgers imo- is he is not a leader. When the Packers won the SB in 2010, Rodgers wasn't the guy in the locker room driving the guys. Charles Woodson was the leader of that team.
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Dak is a good guy and a good leader
I don't think he'll ever win a SB w/o a helluva running game and a helluva defense
tough to field a helluva defense when paying the QB at that level
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Dak is a good guy and a good leader
I don't think he'll ever win a SB w/o a helluva running game and a helluva defense
tough to field a helluva defense when paying the QB at that level
99.9% of QB's need a run game and defense to win Super Bowls. Takes a bit of luck to win a Super Bowl as well.
Brady always left money on the table for Belichick to build the defense. And he's reportedly close to re-signing and re-structuring his deal in Tampa so they can free up money to try and keep LB's Shaq Barrett and Lavonte David. Not very many follow his lead, but the truth is if you want to win like he has in the NFL- you HAVE to take less money.
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some QBs need a LOT more help than others
Dak is one of those IMO
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some QBs need a LOT more help than others
Dak is one of those IMO
Dak is only 27, and I'd much rather have him than any QB not named Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson, Brady, Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, and maybe Justin Herbert. I'm a believer in Jackson for the long term, he's still so young and is the most athletic QB we've ever seen. Herbert had a phenomenal rookie year and has one of the best arms in the NFL.
Matt Ryan is washed, Stafford has put up great numbers but he's won even less than Dak and he's been in the league 3x as long and is 33 with a body that is breaking down, not a believer in Josh Allen or Kyler Murray- at all- not yet at least- and I mean after that who is there really that you'd take over Dak?
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former OMGEEERD FIVE STARZ and 1st round NFL draft pick OT Isaiah Wilson traded from the Titans to the Miami Dolphins. Titans just drafted Wilson in the 1st round in the 2020 NFL Draft, and are trading him to Miami. The trade? Titans are packaging Wilson AND a 7th round pick to the Dolphins for.....a 7th round pick. If that isn't damning, don't know what is. Team is giving up a 7th round pick plus you just get a 7th back? After only one season of having you? Wow. Titans basically just announcing to the NFL World- we think this guy sucks.
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Dak is only 27, and I'd much rather have him than any QB not named Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson, Brady, Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, and maybe Justin Herbert. I'm a believer in Jackson for the long term, he's still so young and is the most athletic QB we've ever seen. Herbert had a phenomenal rookie year and has one of the best arms in the NFL.
and now Dak is making more than all but one of them
Cousins is similar in Minnesoota. He's not bad, but he's just not worth that type of money.
I might actually take Kirk over Dak for the same $$$
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Dak is only 27, and I'd much rather have him than any QB not named Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson, Brady, Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, and maybe Justin Herbert. I'm a believer in Jackson for the long term, he's still so young and is the most athletic QB we've ever seen. Herbert had a phenomenal rookie year and has one of the best arms in the NFL.
You weren't that high on him coming in,he has surprised a lot of people.I like Mayfield,IMO he has a higher ceiling and lower floor than Dak,who for a few yrs had a lot more than Baker to work with
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Brady always left money on the table for Belichick to build the defense. And he's reportedly close to re-signing and re-structuring his deal in Tampa so they can free up money to try and keep LB's Shaq Barrett and Lavonte David. Not very many follow his lead, but the truth is if you want to win like he has in the NFL- you HAVE to take less money.
Not very many have the luxury of taking that pay cut because their squeeze is north of 400 million with a 40 mil per salary
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Not very many have the luxury of taking that pay cut because their squeeze is north of 400 million with a 40 mil per salary
Well in fairness, he was doing that before he ever married her. Brady has always kept money on the table. He's publicly said that he's made way more money than he ever imagined he would playing football, and for him it's never been about the money. And I'm also pretty sure he comes from a very well to do family. Not super wealthy or anything like that- but his father Tom SR definitely worth a few million here and there.
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So just like Kirk Cousins replaced Andy Dalton as the example of the overpaid quarterback, he has now begat Dak Prescott?
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Still not as similar as the Hoke-Harbaugh comparisons.
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I just had to use youtube to teach my kids... and my wife...
...about The Super Bowl Shuffle.
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how about the Ickey Shuffle???
#9 Ickey Woods: The Ickey Shuffle | Top 10 End Zone Celebrations | NFL - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phD9qo0fu8k)
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how about the Ickey Shuffle???
#9 Ickey Woods: The Ickey Shuffle | Top 10 End Zone Celebrations | NFL - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phD9qo0fu8k)
Ickey Woods talked at a football camp I attended as a kid. Back in the day I knew how to do the Ickey Shuffle.
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Ickey Woods talked at a football camp I attended as a kid. Back in the day I knew how to do the Ickey Shuffle.
Ickey Woods got real big. I was officiating a bunch of pee wee football games a number of years back in Cincinnati and he was on the sidelines, guess he was a parent or relative of one of the kids. He had to be well over 300lbs. That said he was still well loved in cincy, he had a constant string of people wanted to talk to him and get his autograph.
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Ben's body is shot. Connor was never going to be able to replace Bell. He's a back-up, not a starter. I'd say they don't have a legit #1 WR either. I really like Claypool, but he looks like a very good #2 to me. JuJu-Smith was a complete creation of Antonio Brown's dominance. Once Brown left, he's fallen off the map completely. The guy should get off TikTok and practice on improving his speed. He's too slow.
I like how Tomlin and the organization don't waste time admitting to their dirty laundry and just let the egomaniacs like Antonio Brown, Leveon Bell, and now Schuster move on. Schuster turning more focus toward his online identity (like TikTok) at the expense of his athletic ability is really going to knock down the value of his next contract. I'm betting the Arizona Cardinals are interested. Lately they're a lot of style over substance.
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Steelers running game collapsed mainly because defenses realized that you could load up 8 near the LOS and still defend the really really short passing game. I think Connor is a good back and if you get him for say 3y/11M you snap him up.
Juju, he's fine if you want to make him a No.2 as he usually cleans up on single team coverages. However if you want him pay him 14M/year by all means go ahead. There are a couple teams he'd probably be good on. Definitely the Packers, maybe the Seahawks and Raiders. The Rams are capped out but he'd also fit in well there.
The others, yes but I didn't have a problem w/ what Bell did. 2nd contracts are the only contracts that RBs get and he was looking down the barrel of a 400 touch season if he played on a franchise tag.
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Feels like everyone in Houston suing Deshaun Watson for sexual assault. Not sure what to think of that.
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he has money
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Feels like everyone in Houston suing Deshaun Watson for sexual assault. Not sure what to think of that.
count is up to 12 now. Typically I'm one to say- let them have their day in court- but when 12 people are coming at you- seems like there might be smoke to that fire.
This is all shocking to me, because Watson seemed like such a great guy.
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Remember Rothlisberger stories trickling out so ya the story has some
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Remember Rothlisberger stories trickling out so ya the story has some
Roethlisberger was an immature, old, over-sized, fat, frat boy. That one seemed obvious. Watson is a total out of left field.
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so it looks like the Saints are moving forward with Jameis and Hill at QB. Not sure Hill is ever going to be more than a gadget player and Jameis has a big arm but he's been a turnover machine since his days at FSU. Jameis to me is a guy with all the physical talent, 6'4, 230", can move a little bit, big arm- has all the of the measurables but none of the intangibles or the mental mastery of the game someone like Brees had. Just don't see how he's going to mesh with someone like Sean Payton.
Saints have a Super Bowl contending roster at every position except QB. I could easily see the Saints slide from 12-4 to 9-7.
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Patriots make a big splash on the free agent market, but not sure they landed anyone that is going to change life for them. Agolohor is a good #2 WR, and they got two very good- but not great TE's- neither of these guys is remotely close to Gronk/Hernandez in their primes- and Matt Judon was a nice signing- but just don't see any of those guys making a dramatic difference.
They'll definitely be a better team, but still need more help at WR and not sure Cam has it anymore. They needed to find a QB, whether it be trading to get Jimmy G back or moving up in the draft to get either Wilson or Fields or Mac Jones.
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Patriots make a big splash on the free agent market, but not sure they landed anyone that is going to change life for them. Agolohor is a good #2 WR, and they got two very good- but not great TE's- neither of these guys is remotely close to Gronk/Hernandez in their primes- and Matt Judon was a nice signing- but just don't see any of those guys making a dramatic difference.
They'll definitely be a better team, but still need more help at WR and not sure Cam has it anymore. They needed to find a QB, whether it be trading to get Jimmy G back or moving up in the draft to get either Wilson or Fields or Mac Jones.
TE class isn't very good and if Pitts would fall taking him means you are passing up on a good WR or a QB. So Henry, while expensive is probably a good pickup.
Agolohor - I'm sure Smith-Schuster is waiting it out, the TV deal kicks in 2 years and teams might go a little nuts when they have an idea what the salary cap is gonna be in the future, but he might have taken the same contract offer.
Judon, they got for a decent price.
I think they had 7 players opt out last year so they'll be better, probably 10-6ish if Cam is decent.
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Roethlisberger was an immature, old, over-sized, fat, frat boy
He wasn't old at the time hell in his prime 26-27
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/insider/story/_/id/31142298/nfl-draft-trade-grades-dolphins-49ers-eagles-how-team-did-their-first-round-deals-next
On a wild Friday, news broke on two trades (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31141794/san-francisco-49ers-move-nfl-draft-acquire-no-3-pick-miami-dolphins-sources-say) involving 2021 NFL draft (https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/news) picks within minutes of each other. First, the San Francisco 49ers (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/sf/san-francisco-49ers) altered their future by trading up to No. 3 overall, sending the Miami Dolphins (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins) their No. 12 overall pick, a 2022 first-rounder, a 2022 third-rounder and a 2023 first-rounder in return. Shortly after, the Dolphins jumped back up to No. 6 overall. The Philadelphia Eagles (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-eagles) sent Miami that sixth pick and a fifth-rounder in exchange for the No. 12 pick, a fourth-rounder and a 2022 first-rounder.
Damn the Fins stocking up on draft options
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Yea Dolphins just scored an extra 1st and got themselves either Pitts, Chase or Smith.
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Now seeing Mac Jones might go #3?
Based on composite rankings, in the 2017 class, Tu'a was the #3 QB, and Mac Jones was #29.
I can concede Alabama just brings in more talent than everyone, but now their backup plan QB is a top 3 pick? That's unfair. I think they actually wound up with the top 2 QBs in that class.
- Davis Mills, Stanford
- Hunter Johnson, Clemson
- Tu'a Tagovailoa, Alabama
- Jake Fromm, Georgia
- Tate Martell, Ohio State
- Jack Sears, USC
- Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
- Sam Ehlinger, Texas
- Dylan McCaffrey, Michigan
- Myles Brennan, LSU
- Chris Robison, Oklahoma
- Keytaon Thompson, Mississippi State
- Sean Clifford, Penn State
- Shawn Robinson, TCU
- N'Kosi Perry, Miami
- Tristan Gebbia, Nebraska
- Kasim Hill, Maryland
- Avery Davis, Notre Dame
- Lowell Narcisse, LSU
- Bailey Hockman, Florida State
- Braxton Burmeister, Oregon
- Chase Garbers, California
- Tommy DeVito, Syracuse
- Hendon Hooker, Virginia Tech
- Ryan Kelley, Arizona State
- Danny Clark, Kentucky
- James Blackman, Florida State
- Chase Brice, Clemson
- Mac Jones, Alabama
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Now seeing Mac Jones might go #3?
Based on composite rankings, in the 2017 class, Tu'a was the #3 QB, and Mac Jones was #29.
I can concede Alabama just brings in more talent than everyone, but now their backup plan QB is a top 3 pick? That's unfair. I think they actually wound up with the top 2 QBs in that class.
- Davis Mills, Stanford
- Hunter Johnson, Clemson
- Tu'a Tagovailoa, Alabama
- Jake Fromm, Georgia
- Tate Martell, Ohio State
- Jack Sears, USC
- Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
- Sam Ehlinger, Texas
- Dylan McCaffrey, Michigan
- Myles Brennan, LSU
- Chris Robison, Oklahoma
- Keytaon Thompson, Mississippi State
- Sean Clifford, Penn State
- Shawn Robinson, TCU
- N'Kosi Perry, Miami
- Tristan Gebbia, Nebraska
- Kasim Hill, Maryland
- Avery Davis, Notre Dame
- Lowell Narcisse, LSU
- Bailey Hockman, Florida State
- Braxton Burmeister, Oregon
- Chase Garbers, California
- Tommy DeVito, Syracuse
- Hendon Hooker, Virginia Tech
- Ryan Kelley, Arizona State
- Danny Clark, Kentucky
- James Blackman, Florida State
- Chase Brice, Clemson
- Mac Jones, Alabama
Tua's future in the NFL seems shaky. Doesn't seem like Fins have a ton of faith in him. Mac Jones is even less physically talented than Tua if you ask me.
Bama QB's might just be a product of the talent/system. Tua and Mac Jones both virtually played on All-Star teams. Bama's WR's/OL's/RB's stocked with 1st round picks up the ass the entire time both guys played at Bama.
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Boy, everyone seems to want Kyle Pitts.
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The just see the Lions lurking there, stoked to take another TE too high
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Boy, everyone seems to want Kyle Pitts.
He's the best TE prospect to come along in ages. If he lands with Dallas- that would be quite the show with Cooper, Lamb, Gallup, and Zeke already there.
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The just see the Lions lurking there, stoked to take another TE too high
Hockenson and Ebron were terrible picks. Ebron scored 7 TD's in his entire 3 year college career. Pitts scored 18 in his 3 years. He was way more productive in the red-zone and on long chunk plays than Ebron could've ever dreamed of being. Ebron was just drafted high because of his freakish combine- and the Lions are a dumb franchise. I at least can see the reach based off the combine- it happens to teams every year. I still to this day don't get the Hockenson pick however.
If the Lions picked Pitts, I wouldn't be too upset about it. I think he'll actually be an elite All-Pro, top tier TE on Sundays. Never thought that about Hockenson or Ebron. Why? Because they never really showed that in college.
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The just see the Lions lurking there, stoked to take another TE too high
Well at least they've moved on from WRs
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Patriots Receiver Julian Edelman Announces Retirement
https://pro32.ap.org/post-gazette/article/patriots-receiver-julian-edelman-announces-retirement
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Brownies look to be signing Clowney, let's see if he has anything left
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I'm not NFL honk at all, but was distracted by some utterance of Edelman being HOF material. Wut? He's got a case like a poor man's Robert Horry, or Madison Bumgarner. Count DA Ringz!
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He's got a case like a poor man's Robert Horry, or Madison Bumgarner.Count DA Ringz!
Wha.....?
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Edelman's HoF argument is he won 3sbs and was clutch in SB. His career marks are completely pedestrian. Zero pro bowls. Non current HOFer Roger Craig would like a word with that argument. His 3 rings, 7 sb TDs, not to mention 500+ catches and 8,000 yds rushing have counted for jack. I'm sure there are others too (Ward, Holt, Wayne, etc)
Bob Horry won a pile of rings. Big whoop. Madison was lights out in his several WS starts but appears headed for a 'nice' career, but not remotely close to HOF.
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Our American treasure, Rob Gronkowski, on Julian Edelman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Rue_GKUBs
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Brownies look to be signing Clowney, let's see if he has anything left
This is very interesting to me. He's incredibly talented, but he's never remotely come close to living up to the hype or #1 overall status. Garrett has lived up to all the hype and then some- so if Clowney has ANYTHING left in the tank he should be able to thrive on getting pressure off of 1on1 looks. They don't need him to be a sack meister. They just need maybe 7+ sacks and lots of pressures for it to be a good signing. Browns are at least trying to get better. Depending on how they do in the draft and Baker's continued to development- they could make some real noise in 2021. But- they are the Browns- so every time you expect them to take the next jump- means they'll go backwards and probably finish 4-12 this year.
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I'm not NFL honk at all, but was distracted by some utterance of Edelman being HOF material. Wut? He's got a case like a poor man's Robert Horry, or Madison Bumgarner. Count DA Ringz!
Agree 100%. Eldeman belongs nowhere near the HOF discussion. Very solid, dependable, clutch WR. Billion miles away from a HOF WR. HOF WR? That's Randy Moss, that's TO, that's Megatron, that's Jerry Rice, that's Ike Bruce, that's Cris Carter.
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I'm not NFL honk at all, but was distracted by some utterance of Edelman being HOF material. Wut? He's got a case like a poor man's Robert Horry, or Madison Bumgarner. Count DA Ringz!
Whatever gets clicks.
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But- they are the Browns- so every time you expect them to take the next jump- means they'll go backwards and probably finish 4-12 this year.
SHUT UP YOU
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I wouldn't even put him in the Patriots Hall of Fame
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This is very interesting to me. He's incredibly talented, but he's never remotely come close to living up to the hype or #1 overall status. Garrett has lived up to all the hype and then some- so if Clowney has ANYTHING left in the tank he should be able to thrive on getting pressure off of 1on1 looks. They don't need him to be a sack meister. They just need maybe 7+ sacks and lots of pressures for it to be a good signing. Browns are at least trying to get better. Depending on how they do in the draft and Baker's continued to development- they could make some real noise in 2021. But- they are the Browns- so every time you expect them to take the next jump- means they'll go backwards and probably finish 4-12 this year.
The big thing for the Browns with Clowney is he is very good against the run. Any sacks are just gravy if he stays a very good run stopper.
Actually for the first time in a long time the draft is relatively unimportant for the Browns. The offensive is almost completely back from last year and the "holes" on the defense were filled in free agency and the return from injury-covid opt out.
Don't get me wrong, they need to draft well to sustain, but 2021 season success or failure will have very little to do with the draft.
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Hmm, pretty soon, the Browns will experience other new, exciting feelings about girls and getting hair in strange places...
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Hmm, pretty soon, the Browns will experience other new, exciting feelings about girls and getting hair in strange places...
Having experienced that yourself recently