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Topic: Zach Smith meltdown on twitter. Brett McMurphy released another article
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Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #70 on:** November 14, 2018, 09:37:35 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on November 14, 2018, 09:28:49 AM

I would guess many of us here would love to be a QB coach at a major program (assume we had the skills needed). You get paid rather nicely, right, probably $400 K or so, and in return you have to work pretty hard, long hours, not much time off, and keep your nose clean and free of white powder and other things.

You might need to guard against the possibility of embarrassing personal revelations, but that is true for most of us.

As long as we loved it, yes. Having a burning passion for an activity really changes the employment equation. Without it, we can only imagine "working to live," to get dollars for other things worth doing. But if a person nicely eclipses his passion and employment, "living to work," having long work days be a joy to be wished for, becomes suddenly probable. Because aside from friends and family, a job you love would be the funnest, most meaningful way to spend a life.
With that in mind, we'd only love being high paid coaches if we loved coaching above all else. But that may not describe anyone here. So at best we might like it somewhat more than a hard, lower paying job. But my prediction is that initial pay stub euphoria would wear out far sooner than we'd expect and we'd still be ourselves in a job we didn't like.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #71 on:** November 14, 2018, 09:42:00 AM »

Quote from: ELA on November 14, 2018, 09:36:37 AM

Yeah, if this is who he was when he had something to lose, now that he doesn't...
That's usually when things end tragically, when you take that away from someone, warranted or not.

I hate how prophetic it already sounds.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #72 on:** November 14, 2018, 09:47:27 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on November 14, 2018, 09:26:50 AM

I guess Zach won't be coaching anywhere any time soon, or ever.

He might’ve had a shot if he just kept his head down and stayed out of the public eye and tried hard to rehab himself and then later down the road work on his image and try and ask for forgiveness and try and sell himself as a changed man.
Dude lit what tiny chance he might’ve had at a comeback on fire with his interviews and his drunken twitter rants.
He is the prime example of how not to handle things.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #73 on:** November 14, 2018, 09:59:34 AM »

He had about as much a chance of landing another coaching gig as Mike McQueery.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #74 on:** November 14, 2018, 10:02:29 AM »

That's the danger of identity. He sees himself as the good guy being made victim by countless greedy ill intentions and he "won't stand for it." So he could never step back and gain the necessary perspective. Instead he dove in to stand up for himself, with this aneurysm of hope that he could strong arm enough people to change their mind.
I guess a parallel could be drawn to medicine. This guy named Paracelsus once said that everything in the world is a poison if you get too high of a dose. And Zach probably thought well of who he is without realizing the nasty O.D. of himself he was giving the world. He was far too clouded to notice how toxic he's been. So, poof goes the career.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #75 on:** November 14, 2018, 10:57:31 AM »

Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 14, 2018, 09:59:34 AM

He had about as much a chance of landing another coaching gig as Mike McQueery.

Not sure I agree with that. He could've worked his way back. He could've went to silent and tried to go into therapy and rehab and go work at some high school in the middle of nowhere for free and start trying to rebuild his image, maybe go work for some D3 school in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming and start to just grind and keep his mouth shut and work his way back. Maybe do a few interviews saying how sorry he was, he used to have problems with alcohol and things might've gone over the line with his ex-wife a few times and claim he never abused her and correctly point out that he was never charged with anything and tell people how he's found god and goes to church all the time now yada yada yada.
America is a very forgiving country. This is the land of second chances.
One thing it doesn't forgive however is pedophilia. McQueary being involved in a pedophilia scandal makes him virtually untouchable forever. What McQueary did was unforgivable. If you see someone molesting a child in a shower you immediately go beat the life out of that person and then call the police. That's what a normal human being would do at least.

SuperMario · « **Reply #76 on:** November 14, 2018, 11:58:07 AM »

Quote from: ELA on November 14, 2018, 07:45:28 AM

Considering how desperate ESPN is to seek clicks, I can only imagine the position of a start up like Stadium. I wouldn't bet against him being told to do this. This is his/their "thing" now, and the lengths to which they are going to try and give it legs is actually turning me away from Stadium before it ever even gets going. I figured it would happen eventually, I haven't watched ESPN for anything other than live sports (and the occasional Gameday in the background) in probably a decade. Every time I think some new media source is going to go high and take a different angle they let me down. We heard that with NBCSN, and while I guess they sort of have, they've also avoided seemingly anything but soccer and hockey. We hoped with FS1, and they immediately went and paid for all the ESPN blowhards (Bayless, Cowherd, Whitlock) they could find.

Spot on. I watch and listen to almost no sports talk or sports television, outside of actual games themselves.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #77 on:** November 14, 2018, 12:26:09 PM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on November 14, 2018, 10:57:31 AM

Not sure I agree with that. He could've worked his way back. He could've went to silent and tried to go into therapy and rehab and go work at some high school in the middle of nowhere for free and start trying to rebuild his image, maybe go work for some D3 school in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming and start to just grind and keep his mouth shut and work his way back. Maybe do a few interviews saying how sorry he was, he used to have problems with alcohol and things might've gone over the line with his ex-wife a few times and claim he never abused her and correctly point out that he was never charged with anything and tell people how he's found god and goes to church all the time now yada yada yada.
America is a very forgiving country. This is the land of second chances.
One thing it doesn't forgive however is pedophilia. McQueary being involved in a pedophilia scandal makes him virtually untouchable forever. What McQueary did was unforgivable. If you see someone molesting a child in a shower you immediately go beat the life out of that person and then call the police. That's what a normal human being would do at least.

That's preposterous.
His career is dead as a doornail, and he's trying to take Herman down with him.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #78 on:** November 14, 2018, 01:29:13 PM »

Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 14, 2018, 12:26:09 PM

His career is dead as a doornail, and he's trying to take Herman down with him.

But Herman is being smart. The best way to not be taken down is to be normal (and certainly not defensive!). So whether or not he has skeletons, he's just playing it cool, so his skeleton possibilities stand out less, and nobody cares.
Urban and Zach couldn't ever afford to be as aloof as Herman is being, because they were closer to the thing and would come off as being aloof about domestic assault, BUT they could learn a lot from Herman's restraint. He's not standing up for himself. That's a very strong P.R. move.
Zach and Urban badly burned themselves by repeatedly talking about how good they actually are when the public could only accept complete contriteness or dead silence. Contriteness followed by "but" doesn't count. So just get off twitter already.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #79 on:** November 14, 2018, 01:33:55 PM »

Sexual Assault?

Entropy · « **Reply #80 on:** November 14, 2018, 01:58:07 PM »

I side with the concept Zach could have resurrected his career. Go to cancelling/rehab... show remorse... proactively become an advocate and help people change/see the light... start over. Prove you can stay out of trouble for a few years and Div 1 would let you back in, IF you are a quality coach.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #81 on:** November 14, 2018, 02:01:27 PM »

Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 14, 2018, 01:33:55 PM

Sexual Assault?

I edited it to say domestic. Similar words (and not unrelated ideas); honest mistake. Glad you corrected me. Full stop. It could also have been a bit of a Freudian slip, since one of the allegations qualified for both DA and SA.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #82 on:** November 19, 2018, 07:24:57 PM »

this is amazing. LOL. Tom Herman's wife wearing a t-shirt that says OK Cool. Hook 'Em.

FearlessF · « **Reply #83 on:** November 19, 2018, 08:10:32 PM »

if you think that is amazin, check her twitter feed

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