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Topic: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC

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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #210 on: October 02, 2018, 08:21:15 AM »
These are opinions.  It's OK to have differing opinions.  It happens.

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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #211 on: October 02, 2018, 08:44:33 AM »
Your right CD 3 pages back someone interjected a note of discord for my having one different than theirs.Hope your's is a good day
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #212 on: October 02, 2018, 09:11:42 AM »
Penn State OC Ricky Rahne says he called a run play; "I felt like we had a good chance to run the ball and split it right up the hash."

I agree with HonestBuckeye and elevenwarriors expert video analysis, that this looks like an RPO that got blowed up.
But if the Head Coach, The Offensive Coordinator, and Senior Captain Quarterback all call it a run play, at some point we just need to say frack it, it was a run play and a bad call.


LINK: https://saturdaytradition.com/penn-state-football/penn-state-oc-ricky-rahne-claims-responsibility-for-4th-down-play-call/
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #213 on: October 02, 2018, 09:48:35 AM »
Ed ZAchery

the play called my have been the option play, but the coach instructs the players that there will be NO option!  IT's a straight run with the look of an option to decoy the defense.

Sometimes good coaches do this to prevent a kid from making a huge mistake and taking the responsibility for the play call.  I think they should probably do this more often.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #214 on: October 02, 2018, 09:59:03 AM »
Ya I was hanging on Herbie's/Fowlers coattails.Coordinators will give one look and do something different.As our esteemed correspondent Fearless had pointed out repeatedly.The hand off appeared to immediate to me to be an option
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #215 on: October 02, 2018, 10:00:29 AM »
you could refer to me as an "expert"

but, it's an overused title
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #216 on: October 02, 2018, 10:02:42 AM »
You get a Yuengling
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #217 on: October 02, 2018, 10:04:35 AM »
all I ever wanted

still hard to find here
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #218 on: October 02, 2018, 10:25:31 AM »
Sanders said, “try to get the ball in my hands and get the first down. But they really came to play that play; didn’t get the job done.”

The running backed called it a running play.

LINK: https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article219191395.html
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #219 on: October 02, 2018, 11:09:48 AM »
Week 5 Sim Tourney Bracketology

APPALACHIAN STATE
3OHIO STATE
NOON - espn2
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NORTH TEXAS
2GEORGIA
1:30 - ESPN
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11PENN STATE
6NOTRE DAME
3:00 - ABC
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BOISE STATE
4CLEMSON
4:30 - espn2
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BUFFALO
1ALABAMA
6:00 - ESPN
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9WEST VIRGINIA
8AUBURN
7:30 - ABC
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12CENTRAL FLORIDA
5LSU
9:00 - espn2
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10WASHINGTON
7OKLAHOMA
10:30 - ESPN
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #220 on: October 02, 2018, 02:57:22 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 02, 2018, 09:48:35 AM
Ed ZAchery

the play called my have been the option play, but the coach instructs the players that there will be NO option!  IT's a straight run with the look of an option to decoy the defense.

Sometimes good coaches do this to prevent a kid from making a huge mistake and taking the responsibility for the play call.  I think they should probably do this more often.
that could be possible I guess...anything is possible.  We will never know- because that's your speculation. Never heard of it before- running a read option, which leaves people unblocked- and instructing team to just take first option.
it could also be that, like any coach of a premier program, they ran the play assuming the first option would be open, but when it wasn't, saw that neither was the second or third- which is what it looks like if you watch in super slow motion- what Mcsorley does.  again- we may never know the full intent.
but- there is no doubt that the play ran, and the formation, was a zone read with an RPO, even if it was just a decoy.  and that's all that was ever being debated-- it was never a off tackle dive or a draw.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #221 on: October 02, 2018, 03:08:09 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 02, 2018, 09:48:35 AM
Ed ZAchery

the play called my have been the option play, but the coach instructs the players that there will be NO option!  IT's a straight run with the look of an option to decoy the defense.

Sometimes good coaches do this to prevent a kid from making a huge mistake and taking the responsibility for the play call.  I think they should probably do this more often.
I believe the hybrid zone read option Hoke first ran with Denard was always pre-determined.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #222 on: October 02, 2018, 03:35:14 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 02, 2018, 03:08:09 PM
I believe the hybrid zone read option Hoke first ran with Denard was always pre-determined.
AH yes. The Denard career killer. I believe you are correct. I really wish we saw another year of Denard with RichRod. The defense was god awful, but watching that kid in that offense was a lot of fun. 
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #223 on: October 02, 2018, 04:35:00 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on October 02, 2018, 03:35:14 PM
AH yes. The Denard career killer. I believe you are correct. I really wish we saw another year of Denard with RichRod. The defense was god awful, but watching that kid in that offense was a lot of fun.
Maybe it would have been better with another year, but I just never saw Denard develop.  From my perspective as an opposing fan, when I saw Denard as a freshman I thought "that kid is going to be REALLY tough to beat in a few years."  He simply never got there.  He was super exciting because on any given play he was much more likely than your average player to do something really good but he was also much more likely than your average player to do something really bad.  Most players, as they gain experience, learn to limit those really bad plays but my view of Denard was that he looked almost exactly the same by the time he left Ann Arbor as he had looked when he arrived.  He was still a super exciting player but it was still for both good (for his team) and bad (for his team) reasons.  
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