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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13342 on: Today at 09:02:17 AM »
We need data centers, and we need them to generate their own power.

We have @betarhoalphadelta 's kid working on that.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13343 on: Today at 09:02:58 AM »
The data center thing is tough for me to judge, most of what I "hear" is extreme and negative.  I get cautious about taking the common knowledge of such things as gospel.

I understand they need power and water, but typically how much in a relative sense seems obscured.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13344 on: Today at 09:04:47 AM »
We're officially in the pressure cooker now.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13345 on: Today at 09:19:17 AM »
Here we have hot forecasts for today and tomorrow and then a break, a bit.  Still nothing over 100°F, but close often.

Yesterday was hot but the humidity was a bit down.
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« Reply #13346 on: Today at 09:23:33 AM »
Yesterday was pretty rough.  We were moving in my daughter to her dorm on campus in College Station and had to make about a bazlllion trips far across the parking lot to get to her dorm entrance.

When I moved in 36 years ago, I had my hifi stereo, and 2 garbage bags with my clothes and bedding.  Took me 10 minutes max.

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« Reply #13347 on: Today at 09:26:04 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 09:02:58 AM
The data center thing is tough for me to judge, most of what I "hear" is extreme and negative.  I get cautious about taking the common knowledge of such things as gospel.

I understand they need power and water, but typically how much in a relative sense seems obscured.
Yeah, like nuke plants. People protesting something they know nothing about. Rinse, repeat.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13348 on: Today at 09:32:54 AM »
Local weatherman says we're in a "flash drought."

I've never heard of that.  

Said we may notice our lawn suddenly turns brown in a 24 hr period.  

Crazy, considering the amount of rainfall we got for months prior to a couple weeks ago.  Apparently, extreme heat, strong winds, and solar radiation factor into a flash drought in addition to lack of rainfall.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13349 on: Today at 09:59:09 AM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on Today at 09:32:54 AM
Local weatherman says we're in a "flash drought."
"They" seem to make terms up, or use new terms, each year.

Atmospheric rivers was a couple years back.
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« Reply #13350 on: Today at 10:00:08 AM »
Polar Vortex.

Bomb Cyclone.
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« Reply #13351 on: Today at 10:01:28 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 09:59:09 AM
"They" seem to make terms up, or use new terms, each year.


Here's a 2019 study on flash droughts, so it's been a term for at least that long.  


https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4433/10/9/498
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« Reply #13352 on: Today at 10:04:49 AM »
Thundersnow.
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« Reply #13353 on: Today at 10:05:29 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on Today at 10:04:49 AM
Thundersnow.

Sounds like another term for hail.  
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« Reply #13354 on: Today at 11:51:39 AM »
From a local Austin meteorologist:

Data centers, A/C running non-stop, hottest weather in two years approaching... But the Texas power grid is one thing we are worrying about much less these days.
Our rapidly-growing SOLAR production combined with a growing bank of industrial-scale batteries are a match made in energy resiliency heaven.
The same sunshine pushing temperatures to record levels is adding more electrons to the power grid. More than 1/3 of the energy demand yesterday was met by a peak of 34 gigawatts of solar energy production. Some of that charged the batteries during the day which was then released back to the grid around/after sunset when energy demand peaked.
End result: More record-setting energy demand is expected through the end of the week, but the forecast calls for a plentiful energy surplus and no threat for energy curtailment. This is not something we could say just three years ago.




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« Reply #13355 on: Today at 12:39:02 PM »
Older people around here are flipping out and complaining about anything data center.

Of course, they like to complain so it's no shock to me.

However, they vote in large numbers, so the dirtballs are paying attention and blocking data centers.

I try to explain about the water usage, but they can't get past their thinking that the water is going to disappear from the planet and into a black hole somewhere. 

I can't teach the hydrologic cycle to a 3 y/o. Same goes for the 75 y/o.
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