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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11088 on: October 10, 2024, 11:22:40 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 10, 2024, 08:11:05 AM
The tornadoes might be he worst of it, at least where they hit, but even overall, maybe.  Hopefully the basic infrastructure stands up to the hurricane itself for the most part.  It won't be like the mountains experienced, hopefully. 

I'm talking "really bad" versus "catastrophic".  If hurricanes really are going to strengthen that fast in the Gulf more often it's not good duh.
Water poses the largest damage and threat to life. The wind and torndoes are far less damaging.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11089 on: October 10, 2024, 11:49:53 AM »
Took a ride around town.

No sign of FEMA anywhere. I talked to a lot of people. Nobody has seen anything FEMA.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11090 on: October 10, 2024, 11:51:33 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2024, 11:49:53 AM
Took a ride around town.

No sign of FEMA anywhere. I talked to a lot of people. Nobody has seen anything FEMA.
Haven't you heard? Seems they ran out of money, fighting COVID.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11091 on: October 10, 2024, 11:54:02 AM »
I'd guess FEMA would still be "assessing" and coordinating from some central locations at this point.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11092 on: October 10, 2024, 11:55:34 AM »
give'em a week or 3
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11093 on: October 10, 2024, 11:58:32 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 10, 2024, 11:54:02 AM
I'd guess FEMA would still be "assessing" and coordinating from some central locations at this point.
Bad guess.

They should have been mobilized and ready, from Marco to Clearwater, and from West Palm to Jacksonville.

We've known this was gonna happen for two f'ing weeks.

That agency, like most others, is a joke right now.

Florida is on its own with this one, no matter what kind of blabber you hear out of the White House.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11094 on: October 10, 2024, 12:04:03 PM »
I don't understand what FEMA DOES do, and what they should do, at this point.  I presume they don't show up with chainsaws or reconnect power lines or clear flooding, ever.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11095 on: October 10, 2024, 12:20:59 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 10, 2024, 12:04:03 PM
I don't understand what FEMA DOES do, and what they should do, at this point.  I presume they don't show up with chainsaws or reconnect power lines or clear flooding, ever.
I do. They push paper and sub everything out.

12,000 people pushing paper, coordinating Covid shit and migrant aid.

That's a lot of people, doing not much.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11096 on: October 10, 2024, 12:22:52 PM »
What SHOULD they be doing?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11097 on: October 10, 2024, 12:25:09 PM »
FEMA has faced criticism and praise during Hurricane Helene. Here's what it does - and doesn't do - ABC11 Raleigh-Durham
FEMA has faced criticism and praise during Hurricane Helene. Here's what it does - and doesn't do - ABC11 Raleigh-Durham

FEMA works to supply aid to people in affected areas before, during and after disasters by providing money, technical assistance and guidance, according to the agency.
Former President Jimmy Carter signed an executive order to establish FEMA in 1979, and the agency is headquartered in Washington, D.C.
FEMA works with affected states to coordinate resources and deliver public assistance to cover costs for debris removal, life-saving emergency protective procedures and restoring public infrastructure.

FEMA also offers federal grants to victims to help them with temporary housing, emergency home repairs, loss of personal property, and funeral and medical expenses, among other things.
However, the federal agency is not solely in charge of the disaster relief and recovery process, according to Joshua Dozor, who worked for FEMA for over a decade and most recently served as the deputy assistant administrator for response operations.
"FEMA is a small agency -- they're not an army with trucks," Dozor told ABC News.
Describing the branch as more of an "enabler" for disaster relief, Dozor said, "FEMA coordinates resources across departments and agencies, non-government organizations, contractors, to help the state take the lead role in delivering the response."


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11098 on: October 10, 2024, 12:31:03 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2024, 11:58:32 AM
Bad guess.

They should have been mobilized and ready, from Marco to Clearwater, and from West Palm to Jacksonville.

We've known this was gonna happen for two f'ing weeks.

That agency, like most others, is a joke right now.

Florida is on its own with this one, no matter what kind of blabber you hear out of the White House.
I must have a misunderstanding of it.. from my understanding they were training new employees in Ukraine and Israel so we're sending some money over there for proper training. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11099 on: October 10, 2024, 12:39:26 PM »
Over Governor, over the past two weeks, has coordinated with Electric companies across the country, from as far away as California.

We still have a lot of our own linemen in North Carolina, etc. helping Helene victims.

During Ian he had our own, plus many from other states. 40,000 total linemen.

He has gathered 50,000 this time around.

FEMA coordinated nothing on this.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11100 on: October 10, 2024, 12:41:42 PM »
It sounds to me like FEMA is basically white collar "coordinators",  If so, I wouldn't expect to ever see one that was identifiable after a disaster.  Whether they do anything useful at some point or not I don't know.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11101 on: October 10, 2024, 12:43:53 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 10, 2024, 12:41:42 PM
It sounds to me like FEMA is basically white collar "coordinators",  If so, I wouldn't expect to ever see one that was identifiable after a disaster.  Whether they do anything useful at some point or not I don't know.
I saw FEMA trucks and personnel here before and after Ian.
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