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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4046 on: February 10, 2021, 02:47:46 PM »


If this is close to accurate, the coal and NG figures are rather notable.  Were it up to me, I'd focus on shutting coal plants to the extent practicable.  Our failure on nuclear is kind of stunning to me.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4047 on: February 11, 2021, 07:12:22 AM »
What if we had a plan to build nuclear to replace coal in the US?  Standardize on one type of nuke, maybe use the SMR approach, and for each new nuke, shutter a similar set of coal plants producing the same amount of power.

Clearly, if the above projections are close to right, we'll still have a large amount of coal in 2050.  It sounds nice to say wind and solar of course, but you have to face reality and the numbers at some point.
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« Reply #4048 on: February 11, 2021, 08:09:16 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 09, 2021, 07:44:32 AM
Ford Makes $29 Billion Commitment to EVs and Self-Driving Cars (caranddriver.com)

So, Ford and GM both are going heavily for EVs.  That doesn't mean they will of course, the market will determine that, but I think  it clear that we are headed to an EV future.  I would guess by 2040, most new cars in the US will be EVs, maybe 90% of them.  Of course, that doesn't mean 90% of car on the road will be EVs.  The percentage is still low today obviously.

Could we hit 50% by 2040?  It's possible.

That would increase our need for electricity by 15% or so by itself.
That would be great and reduce the demand on gasoline and diesel fuel and should drive the prices down so I don't have to pay as much at the pump. ;)
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4049 on: February 11, 2021, 08:23:43 AM »
At some point, we'll use petroleum mostly for lubricants and chemicals and perhaps airline fuel.

Peak oil could be today, but for reasons not contemplated when the term was used.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4050 on: February 11, 2021, 11:01:17 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 11, 2021, 07:12:22 AM
What if we had a plan to build nuclear to replace coal in the US?  Standardize on one type of nuke, maybe use the SMR approach, and for each new nuke, shutter a similar set of coal plants producing the same amount of power.

Clearly, if the above projections are close to right, we'll still have a large amount of coal in 2050.  It sounds nice to say wind and solar of course, but you have to face reality and the numbers at some point.
Just when I thought  I had you pegged as a greener you come out with something sensible like that
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4051 on: February 11, 2021, 11:03:12 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 11, 2021, 08:23:43 AM
At some point, we'll use petroleum mostly for lubricants and chemicals and perhaps airline fuel.

Peak oil could be today, but for reasons not contemplated when the term was used.
gasoline production accounts for 45% of the current oil usage
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4052 on: February 11, 2021, 11:10:35 AM »
Speaking of global warming, we're getting a couple of arctic blasts though CenTex over the next few days.

The high on Monday is currently forecast at 21, and the overnight low at 9.  I'm pretty sure I've never encountered single-digit temps in Austin, Texas.

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« Reply #4053 on: February 11, 2021, 11:42:49 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 11, 2021, 11:10:35 AM
Speaking of global warming, we're getting a couple of arctic blasts though CenTex over the next few days.

The high on Monday is currently forecast at 21, and the overnight low at 9.  I'm pretty sure I've never encountered single-digit temps in Austin, Texas.


as if its not bad enough to get that cold it is also forecast to stay below freezing for 30 hours which is big for us Texans
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4054 on: February 11, 2021, 11:45:21 AM »
82 here today.

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« Reply #4055 on: February 11, 2021, 12:30:01 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2021, 11:45:21 AM
82 here today.



Case closed.  Move to Florida, not Texas.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4056 on: February 11, 2021, 01:47:28 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 11, 2021, 12:30:01 PM
Case closed.  Move to Florida, not Texas.
No Tito's or Live Oak there even the Lizards fall out of the trees when they find out.Sounds like you're getting N.Ohio weather,evidently 77% of Lake Erie is ice covered.Brother says they're pulling nice Walleye thru the ice again in the Western Basin
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4057 on: February 11, 2021, 02:25:48 PM »
Gonna be cold AF here for the forseeable future in MSP. Next projection of temperature above zero is Tuesday.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4058 on: February 11, 2021, 02:29:28 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on February 11, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Gonna be cold AF here for the forseeable future in MSP. Next projection of temperature above zero is Tuesday.
we Texans dont know what to do when the temp gets below 32
especially if theres ice on the roads
thats when we like to go out and crash into things
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4059 on: February 11, 2021, 02:51:40 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on February 11, 2021, 02:29:28 PM
we Texans dont know what to do when the temp gets below 32
especially if theres ice on the roads
thats when we like to go out and crash into things
Yup.  That's where I'm a Viking!
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