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« Reply #7784 on: June 01, 2023, 10:00:11 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7785 on: June 01, 2023, 10:08:57 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 31, 2023, 12:27:31 PM
It's not false if it's pulled from the air.  It's my fault, I should know better.  You're going to assume it's anything other than what I intended. 
What did you intend?  It in fact is false, and that you pulled it from the air is evidence for that.  You just make stuff up all the time, and then feel slighted any time someone says "Hey, that is not true.".

I prefer to stick to established facts rather than stuff pulled from thin air.
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« Reply #7786 on: June 01, 2023, 10:34:53 AM »
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« Reply #7787 on: June 01, 2023, 10:55:49 AM »
I like Wink. They have some talent.

WINK News Team - WINK News
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« Reply #7788 on: June 01, 2023, 11:09:20 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7789 on: June 01, 2023, 11:10:05 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 01, 2023, 10:00:11 AM
The world is about to experience its hottest year yet, UN warns (winknews.com)
Technically, this can't be the case, if we're including prehuman history. 

At its beginning, Earth was unrecognizable from its modern form. At first, it was extremely hot, to the point that the planet likely consisted almost entirely of molten magma. Over the course of a few hundred million years, the planet began to cool and oceans of liquid water formed
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« Reply #7790 on: June 01, 2023, 11:46:01 AM »
another guess by experts
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« Reply #7791 on: June 01, 2023, 11:47:37 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7792 on: June 01, 2023, 12:34:10 PM »
Climate paradox: Emission cuts could ‘unmask’ deadly face of climate change, scientists warn | The Hill

I can believe this, cutting burning of fossil fuels reduces aerosols in the atmosphere which block some of the sun's energy.

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« Reply #7793 on: June 01, 2023, 12:45:13 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 01, 2023, 12:34:10 PM
Climate paradox: Emission cuts could ‘unmask’ deadly face of climate change, scientists warn | The Hill

I can believe this, cutting burning of fossil fuels reduces aerosols in the atmosphere which block some of the sun's energy.


So it's sort of like the prevailing science in medieval times-- having a nice crusty layer of dirt all around your skin helped protect you from the evil humors.
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« Reply #7794 on: June 01, 2023, 01:03:07 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 01, 2023, 12:34:10 PM
Climate paradox: Emission cuts could ‘unmask’ deadly face of climate change, scientists warn | The Hill

I can believe this, cutting burning of fossil fuels reduces aerosols in the atmosphere which block some of the sun's energy.
I'd restate this. We haven't really cut burning of fossil fuels. We've just made it cleaner by filtering out some of the associated pollutants, perhaps changing the mix of fuels we burn (i.e. NG instead of coal), etc. But we haven't cut.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7795 on: June 01, 2023, 01:13:15 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on June 01, 2023, 01:03:07 PM
I'd restate this. We haven't really cut burning of fossil fuels. We've just made it cleaner by filtering out some of the associated pollutants, perhaps changing the mix of fuels we burn (i.e. NG instead of coal), etc. But we haven't cut.
We did actually during the COVID shutdowns.  That afforded the experiment to assess what reducing aerosols would do for solar radiance.
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« Reply #7796 on: June 01, 2023, 01:21:25 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 01, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
We did actually during the COVID shutdowns.  That afforded the experiment to assess what reducing aerosols would do for solar radiance.
True. And I suppose there's a time component. Cutting emissions overall will reduce aerosols faster than CO2 reductions, as they don't stay in the atmosphere as long. 
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« Reply #7797 on: June 01, 2023, 01:26:36 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 01, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
We did actually during the COVID shutdowns.  That afforded the experiment to assess what reducing aerosols would do for solar radiance.
The effects of that are still being felt, I'd think.

All of the empty office spaces around the country certainly thinks so. People are not driving as much as they did in the past.
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