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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7742 on: May 31, 2023, 11:13:50 AM »
The entire West Antarctic ice sheet could slide into the sea

I suppose anything "could" happen

Seems highly improbable to me
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7743 on: May 31, 2023, 11:43:34 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 31, 2023, 11:13:50 AM
The entire West Antarctic ice sheet could slide into the sea

I suppose anything "could" happen

Seems highly improbable to me
What's that improbability based on?  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7744 on: May 31, 2023, 11:45:03 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 31, 2023, 09:48:00 AM
TS.C.5.2 The exposure of many coastal populations and
associated development to sea level rise is high, increasing risks,
and is concentrated in and around coastal cities and settlements
(virtually certain). High population growth and urbanisation in
low-lying coastal zones will be the major driver of increasing exposure
to sea level rise in the coming decades (high confidence). By 2030, 108–
116 million people will be exposed to sea level rise in Africa (compared
to 54 million in 2000), increasing to 190–245 million by 2060 (medium
confidence). By 2050, more than a billion people located in low-lying
cities and settlements will be at risk from coast-specific climate
hazards, influenced by coastal geomorphology, geographical location
and adaptation action


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maybe tell folks not to move there and build cities??

well, stay at least a couple meters above current sea level
Is this a serious post?  The hell?
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Hey idiots in Somalia!  There's no food there.  Just move!  Sea levels are rising, don't move there!  
Yet what did we do in New Orleans?  Mourn.  Rebuild.  On a major river.  Below sea level.  Near the sea.

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Your post is what dipshits say.  I'm not calling you that.  I just think you should know that.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7745 on: May 31, 2023, 11:46:36 AM »
well, you think people moving to the desert is foolish
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7746 on: May 31, 2023, 11:47:22 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 31, 2023, 11:46:36 AM
well, you think people moving to the desert is foolish
And he lives in one.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7747 on: May 31, 2023, 11:48:34 AM »
It is!
It's stupid I was put in a position to have to move here.  
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I guess I should have just "not moved here" and gotten a job in FL at McDonalds or something.  Or been homeless.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7748 on: May 31, 2023, 11:49:25 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 31, 2023, 11:47:22 AM
And he lives in one.
Thanks, Capt Obvious.  
I guess you get to be the "translate the post meaning for the extreme elderly bunch" guy.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7749 on: May 31, 2023, 11:50:22 AM »
I'm reminded that I need to lower my expectations of everybody and just relax.  
I apologize.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7750 on: May 31, 2023, 11:58:35 AM »
I stated above... if the sea level is going to raise and it's not debatable. Why not encourage folks to not move there and build large cities?

same could be said for climate change in Arizona.  If the weather is going to get hotter and with less water, why not warn people about this and encourage them to not die of thirst?

instead of letting a few more million move there and then pay to relocate them later when things become dire
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7751 on: May 31, 2023, 12:00:58 PM »
as you said,

I always hear about the cost of trying to be proactive (decades too late), but no one mentions the cost of being reactive.

At least you're choosing the "when" and the "how much," however radical it may seem, when attempting to be proactive.
The problem with being reactive is that you have no say of "when" or "how much."


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I'm actually agreeing with you
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7752 on: May 31, 2023, 12:01:06 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 31, 2023, 11:58:35 AM
I stated above... if the sea level is going to raise and it's not debatable. Why not encourage folks to not move there and build large cities?

same could be said for climate change in Arizona.  If the weather is going to get hotter and with less water, why not warn people about this and encourage them to not die of thirst?

instead of letting a few more million move there and then pay to relocate them later when things become dire
Well, because
a)  half the people living there won't believe you
b)  a majority of growth is babies being born, not people moving there
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7753 on: May 31, 2023, 12:02:55 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 31, 2023, 12:00:58 PM
as you said,

I always hear about the cost of trying to be proactive (decades too late), but no one mentions the cost of being reactive.

At least you're choosing the "when" and the "how much," however radical it may seem, when attempting to be proactive.
The problem with being reactive is that you have no say of "when" or "how much."


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I'm actually agreeing with you
The masses are dumb.  Everyone thinks they're the exception.  My post says no one mentions this good idea.  It's great that you're on board, but we're not enough.  :57:
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7754 on: May 31, 2023, 12:08:33 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 31, 2023, 11:48:34 AM
It is!
It's stupid I was put in a position to have to move here. 
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I guess I should have just "not moved here" and gotten a job in FL at McDonalds or something.  Or been homeless. 
Teachers are badly needed all over the country, including Florida.

Why were you in a position to have to move to a desert?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7755 on: May 31, 2023, 12:09:42 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 31, 2023, 11:43:34 AM
What's that improbability based on? 
Um, the IPCC projections?

As I stated, right now scientists are NOT projecting that the West Antarctic ice sheet will collapse, and certainly not in a short-term time horizon. Climate change over a couple hundred years will melt more ice and have the effect of significant sea level rise if not addressed. But climate scientists are not saying it will happen quickly or soon. 

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