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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4858 on: May 11, 2021, 09:45:48 AM »
Renewables grew at fastest rate in two decades last year, IEA says in new report (cnbc.com)


Capacity added jumped 45% to 280 gigawatts last year.

The article omits some relevant information, e.g., how much electricity we produce a year, over 7,000 gW.  One can grow impressively over a small base and remain a fairly small base.  The 280 is basically rounding error.


Projected electricity generation capacity worldwide from 2018 to 2050 (in gigawatts)

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[th]Electricity generation capacity in gigawatts[/th]
2030*9,219.6
2025*8,031.7
2020*7,228.4
20186,784.1


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4859 on: May 11, 2021, 10:23:24 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 09, 2021, 09:49:33 AM
I expect to see a few more folks fessing up, so to speak, and voicing some realism about the issue.

They won't get much play in MSM of course.
There would be a huge climate change before that happens. Like Hell freezing over. The Earth has a roughly 36 year cycle of climate change. Eighteen years increase and then eighteen years decrease. The climate change boys whine about it for 18 years and then lie about it for 18 years. Actually it has been 23 years since the Earth had a temperature increase.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4860 on: May 11, 2021, 11:30:18 AM »
I'm not talking about denying anthropogenic climate change.  I'm talking about our inherent inability to alter the path very much at all if the models are right.

I'm reasonably satisfied our climate has been warming for decades now.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4861 on: May 11, 2021, 01:31:23 PM »
I'm using my half hour for lunch to dump 6 used tires in a burn hole for large trees and root balls

using my V8 pickup truck to haul the load
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4862 on: May 11, 2021, 01:54:14 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 11, 2021, 01:31:23 PM
I'm using my half hour for lunch to dump 6 used tires in a burn hole for large trees and root balls

using my V8 pickup truck to haul the load
good job its nice to see you doing your part to fight carbon emissions
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4863 on: May 11, 2021, 02:41:44 PM »
saved me $60

the Tire Shop wanted $60 to "dispose" of the old tires

I'll use the $60 towards gasoline as prices climb

put a carbon tax on gasoline - that will help
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4864 on: May 13, 2021, 08:15:40 AM »
Gravity-based batteries try to beat their chemical cousins with winches, weights, and mine shafts | Science | AAAS (sciencemag.org)

Gravitricity is one of a handful of gravity-based energy storage companies attempting to improve on an old idea: pumped hydroelectric power storage. Engineers would dam up a reservoir on a hill, pump water to it at times of low demand (usually at night), and release it to generate electricity. But the systems require specific terrain, expensive infrastructure, and planning approval that is increasingly hard to come by. These days, banking energy usually means hooking up renewable power to giant batteries.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4865 on: May 13, 2021, 11:19:38 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 11, 2021, 11:30:18 AM
I'm not talking about denying anthropogenic climate change.  I'm talking about our inherent inability to alter the path very much at all if the models are right.

I'm reasonably satisfied our climate has been warming for decades now.
I wouldn't call it satisfied.If true it is and absolute abomination to Polar Bears/Penguins/Walruses.....
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4866 on: May 13, 2021, 11:21:49 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 11, 2021, 01:31:23 PM
I'm using my half hour for lunch to dump 6 used tires in a burn hole?
Huh?they will see your campfire for miles if serious Clark
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4867 on: May 13, 2021, 12:46:22 PM »
if you burn at night, they only see the flames, not the black smoke rolling

besides, not my burn hole, I just contributed the 6 tires.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4868 on: May 13, 2021, 12:51:56 PM »
Some facts, and some conclusions about climate change:

1.  CO2 levels are rising from about 280 ppm preindustrial to about 410 ppm today.  Fact.
2.  CO2 is a known green house gas.  (Without it, our climate would be considerably cooler.)
3.  More CO2 should contribute to a warming climate, how much and when is debatable.
4.  Glacial and arctic ice has been retreating for decades now, Antarctic ice is a more complex story apparently.
5.  Various MODELS predict overall warming of our climate over the next 80 years or so by up to 7°C if nothing is done.  The goals are to try and keep this under 2°C.  6.  Apparently we already have warmed about 1°C.

I don't think anyone argues with any of that, you can certainly say the models are wrong (they certainly are).  All models are wrong, some are useful.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4869 on: May 13, 2021, 12:56:01 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 13, 2021, 12:51:56 PM
Some facts, and some conclusions about climate change:

1.  CO2 levels are rising from about 280 ppm preindustrial to about 410 ppm today.  Fact.
2.  CO2 is a known green house gas.  (Without it, our climate would be considerably cooler.)
3.  More CO2 should contribute to a warming climate, how much and when is debatable.
4.  Glacial and arctic ice has been retreating for decades now, Antarctic ice is a more complex story apparently.
5.  Various MODELS predict overall warming of our climate over the next 80 years or so by up to 7°C if nothing is done.  The goals are to try and keep this under 2°C. 
6.  Apparently we already have warmed about 1°C.

I don't think anyone argues with any of that, you can certainly say the models are wrong (they certainly are).  All models are wrong, some are useful.
Some people argue with a lot of that. I don't find any of their arguments credible or consistent with our best scientific knowledge on the subject, but that doesn't stop them from arguing.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4870 on: May 13, 2021, 01:06:34 PM »
I don't think any of that is other than known fact.  A person can of course discount the models, which are hyper complex.

Folks usually believe, or not, based on political leanings rather than technical analysis.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4871 on: May 22, 2021, 10:59:49 AM »
Looks like we have our first tropical storm in the Atlantic. The name is Ana. Not expected to amount to anything more, which is good.
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