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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4830 on: May 06, 2021, 04:16:25 PM »
we could

but, we won't
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4831 on: May 07, 2021, 10:59:58 AM »
Rural America Gets Bad Vibrations From Big Wind - WSJ

Wind turbines are popular—in theory. Gallup data show about 70% of Americans want “more emphasis” on wind energy. Plenty of politicians like the idea, too. President Biden’s proposed Energy Efficiency and Clean Electricity Standard calls for “tens of thousands of wind turbines.”
But where, exactly, will all those turbines be built? That question matters because [color=var(--color-blue)]local governments across the country are rejecting[/url] wind energy projects. Since 2015, about 300 government entities from Vermont to Hawaii have rejected or restricted wind projects. In March the select board in Scituate, Mass., ordered a wind turbine in the coastal town to be shut down at night from mid-May to mid-October. The problem, according to the Boston Globe: complaints from neighbors who say “they can’t sleep at night because of noise” the wind turbine makes.[/font][/size][/color]
The planning board in Foster, R.I., voted 5-1 on April 7 to ban wind turbines. The board took action after hearing from residents of Portsmouth, R.I., who had turbines built near their homes. The Valley Breeze newspaper reported that Portsmouth residents warned the board “about their experiences, complaining about constant noise disturbances, vibrations, and loss in home values from turbines in their neighborhood.”
These aren’t isolated examples. John Riggi, a town councilman in Yates, N.Y., has been fighting a proposed 200-megawatt wind project for seven years. He told me his community and others “are fighting to keep our lands free from environmentally destructive, culture-killing and unwanted industrial renewable-energy projects.”
These land-use conflicts are the binding constraint on the expansion of renewable-energy development in the U.S. These conflicts are coming to the fore at the same time the Biden administration is pushing a multitrillion-dollar infrastructure package that includes tens of billions of dollars in new spending on wind and solar energy as well as the construction of “thousands of miles” of high-voltage transmission lines.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4832 on: May 07, 2021, 11:41:59 AM »
well, ya don't put the turbine within a block of a house or residence

that's easy enough
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4833 on: May 07, 2021, 12:27:37 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 11:41:59 AM
well, ya don't put the turbine within a block of a house or residence

that's easy enough
pretty easy in Texas but ya gotta remember to have a way of keeping them from f@#ken freezing
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« Reply #4834 on: May 07, 2021, 01:09:23 PM »
When I was doing work on wind farms (before all the subsidies were cancelled) the most difficult parts were logistics. Putting up a big pole with a fan is easy. And then...

We had to widen roads to accommodate those long ass trucks, for one. Then, the routing for the transmission lines. That was a bitch and a half.

Anyone ever see the caissons these big poles are anchored to? Holy hell.

Not to mention finding willing landowners to grant leases/easements and then permitting.

People seem to not think about all that goes into these things. It ain't just putting up a pole with a fan.

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« Reply #4835 on: May 07, 2021, 01:33:08 PM »


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« Reply #4836 on: May 07, 2021, 01:58:32 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 07, 2021, 01:09:23 PM
When I was doing work on wind farms (before all the subsidies were cancelled) the most difficult parts were logistics. Putting up a big pole with a fan is easy. And then...

We had to widen roads to accommodate those long ass trucks, for one. Then, the routing for the transmission lines. That was a bitch and a half.

Anyone ever see the caissons these big poles are anchored to? Holy hell.

Not to mention finding willing landowners to grant leases/easements and then permitting.

People seem to not think about all that goes into these things. It ain't just putting up a pole with a fan.


landowners should be available if paying as they were a few years ago for the lease and easements.  Can't grow enough corn to make the same money.  Got a big pole and fan on my Grandfather's farmland.
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« Reply #4837 on: May 07, 2021, 03:46:18 PM »
May be an image of text that says 'A Proposal: Death roll machine Raw Meat Entire US Electrical grid Generator'
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« Reply #4838 on: May 07, 2021, 05:35:15 PM »
Always a Hoot seeing a turbine being transported through a cloverleaf interchange.  

Driving through the one that runs across 65 north of Lafayette is pretty amazing at dusk.  Feel like 4,000 red eyes upon you.
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« Reply #4839 on: May 07, 2021, 10:42:54 PM »
and the 4,000 red eyes blinking in unison

fiber optic network


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« Reply #4840 on: May 08, 2021, 09:43:17 AM »
Interesting read. Venice is really in trouble. We had to avoid many "puddles" a couple of years ago.

Venice and cruise ships: the story behind the government ban (msn.com)
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« Reply #4841 on: May 08, 2021, 09:57:33 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on May 07, 2021, 05:35:15 PM
Always a Hoot seeing a turbine being transported through a cloverleaf interchange. 

Driving through the one that runs across 65 north of Lafayette is pretty amazing at dusk.  Feel like 4,000 red eyes upon you.


I'm trying to envision how they would traverse them through a mountain pass. I've seen windmill farms in some pretty remote valleys. 



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« Reply #4842 on: May 08, 2021, 01:50:11 PM »
May be an image of text that says 'IFLS The Gulf Stream Is At Its Weakest For More Than A Thousand Years. If It Stops, Europe Will Freeze. The finding increases the likelihood the current will weaken further, with catastrophic implications for the UK and Ireland, and bad news for many other places.'
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4843 on: May 08, 2021, 02:00:21 PM »
I thought the collapse of the Atlantic conveyor had been discounted as a possibility.
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