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Topic: Weather, Climate, and Environment

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utee94

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3640 on: October 05, 2020, 04:04:20 PM »
Oh great, now not only will OAM complain bitterly about how the USA is the worst country, now he will also start complaining about how Earth is the worst planet.

Thanks for nothing, Fearless.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3641 on: October 05, 2020, 05:40:43 PM »
He just says the US is not the best country, not that it's the worst.  His posts obviously drip with derision, but it's his opinion.  I get the feeling he hasn't spent any or much time anywhere else with the people there.

In my experience, people are pretty much the same.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3642 on: October 05, 2020, 05:41:25 PM »
And if in fact renewables will replace fossil fuels on their own, and fast enough, great, we don't really need to worry about the topic.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3643 on: October 05, 2020, 05:56:56 PM »
He just says the US is not the best country, not that it's the worst.  His posts obviously drip with derision, but it's his opinion.  I get the feeling he hasn't spent any or much time anywhere else with the people there.
It's more he says something that's entirely bombastic and leaves no room for nuance, and then when challenged retreats to "well you can't expect me to qualify my statements; you should know what I mean!" Like it's our fault for seeing what he says and assuming he means what he said.


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In my experience, people are pretty much the same.

Agreed. Most people just want to live in safety, have economic opportunity, feel like they can raise a family and offer a future to their children. If a country can't offer that, the country has issues. But the people aren't the issue; their leaders are. The people are the same everywhere.

We can argue that America is or isn't the best country in the world. I don't think we can argue that Americans are any better or worse than anyone else in this world.

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« Reply #3644 on: October 05, 2020, 06:26:11 PM »
You all are missing the point, though.

Now we know, that Earth isn't even the best planet.  Probably a few dozen better places to live and raise that family.  Just gotta wait for Captain Kirk or Han Solo to transport us there.

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« Reply #3645 on: October 05, 2020, 06:28:00 PM »
You all are missing the point, though.

Now we know, that Earth isn't even the best planet.  Probably a few dozen better places to live and raise that family.  Just gotta wait for Captain Kirk or Han Solo to transport us there.
Yeah, but it's a moot point. We've discussed how reticent countries in Europe or the Australia/New Zealand folks are to allow Americans to immigrate. You think those planets are going to take in Earthlings? What do we have to offer?

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« Reply #3646 on: October 05, 2020, 06:29:15 PM »
Yeah, but it's a moot point. We've discussed how reticent countries in Europe or the Australia/New Zealand folks are to allow Americans to immigrate. You think those planets are going to take in Earthlings? What do we have to offer?
Exactly.  Because America is the worst country, on the worst planet, in the galaxy.

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« Reply #3647 on: October 05, 2020, 06:29:28 PM »
Elon Musk will do it for a price
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3648 on: October 05, 2020, 06:30:48 PM »
Then again... Maybe they'll take us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE3OuHukrmQ

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3649 on: October 05, 2020, 06:37:25 PM »
We can argue that America is or isn't the best country in the world. I don't think we can argue that Americans are any better or worse than anyone else in this world.
When you visit another country, by and large you are experiencing the best of that country, the best most polite people and places etc.  It's not until you get en famile that you start to get a glimpse of other countries, I think, and that experience is rare.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3650 on: October 05, 2020, 06:39:54 PM »
Oh great, now not only will OAM complain bitterly about how the USA is the worst country, now he will also start complaining about how Earth is the worst planet.
He would know Mr Scott has beamed him up a few times
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3651 on: October 05, 2020, 06:41:33 PM »
Exactly.  Because America is the worst country, on the worst planet, in the galaxy.

Could be worse like also rooting for the Horns......or Browns.....or Indians
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3652 on: October 05, 2020, 06:49:13 PM »
When you visit another country, by and large you are experiencing the best of that country, the best most polite people and places etc.  It's not until you get en famile that you start to get a glimpse of other countries, I think, and that experience is rare.
That's why I loved Anthony Bourdain's show(s)... He showed real people. He let them tell their stories. 

No matter where it was, even in some of the places one might describe as sh!thole countries, you saw people who cared about their family; about their community; about their future. They were certainly not without warts. But they were no different than anywhere else. 

That which makes us similar is FAR more salient than the political/national/religious/ideological differences that divide us... But that's never stopped us from elevating all those differences over our similarities in the past--to the point of hatred and violence. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3653 on: October 05, 2020, 06:57:08 PM »
That is why traveling tends to engender peaceful relations.  One begins to focus on sameness and not differences.

They are basically the same.

Of course, the heads of state of three waring powers in 1914 were first cousins, so there is that.

 

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