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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2786 on: May 19, 2020, 12:16:52 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 19, 2020, 11:57:44 AM
Some have speculated that the lowered output from the sun could result in a “Little Ice Age”, similar to the one that occurred between the 14th and 19th century and happened concurrently with mountain glacier expansion in the European Alps, New Zealand, and Alaska among other locations, and lower temperatures across the northern hemisphere.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/sun-solar-minimum-effects-space-earth-ice-age-a9519986.html
This is correct, we have been in a period of reduced solar activity for some time now, and yet 2020 is probably going to be the hottest year on record.

Remember, we have a greater than 95% confidence that ALL of the warming in the last 60 years is due to man made climate change.  A big reason for this is because we have ruled out every other possible scenario we can think of.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2787 on: May 19, 2020, 12:19:12 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 19, 2020, 12:12:23 PM
That's government "working", Mr. N., not private developers.

Storm sewers and sanitary sewers were customarily combined, until the late '60's/early '70's or so. It has been prohibited just about everywhere I know of, since then.
Believe private contactors did most the work on the house lots.Either way i'm not sure it was always shady inspectors as not enough of them were employed with the amount of building going on
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2788 on: May 19, 2020, 12:20:27 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on May 19, 2020, 01:05:53 AM
My point has been that the people who go into politics are not somehow better, more moral, more hardworking and energetic than all those scoundrels in private business you have encountered.  Who knows?  The EPA inspector might have been in on the scam.  Might have been taking a little under the table to never even look at the meter.
Ever been to a post office and waited half an hour while the employees behind the counter were taking their sweet time with everything they did?  Those kind of people can end up working for the EPA too.  And it's almost impossible to fire them.
Incompetence happens in private and government industry.  

And I've never been in a post office for more than 10 minutes, despite the fact I go there almost daily.  :)

Now my experience with Verizon, on the other hand >:(
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2789 on: May 19, 2020, 12:23:39 PM »
 The fifth IPCC report further strengthened this to: “It is extremely likely that more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010 was caused by the anthropogenic increase in greenhouse gas concentrations and other anthropogenic forcings together.”

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/3/


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2790 on: May 19, 2020, 12:24:26 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on May 19, 2020, 12:16:52 PM
This is correct, we have been in a period of reduced solar activity for some time now, and yet 2020 is probably going to be the hottest year on record.
 N.E.Ohio says horse puckey
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2791 on: May 19, 2020, 12:34:08 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 19, 2020, 07:03:52 AM
That was my experience, working for the government. I couldn't wait to get out.

And those kinds of people do work for the EPA. That agency has 15,000 people in it.

Every state has it's own EPA too. Some call it DNR. Illinois has both an EPA and a DNR, because it can?? Those two have conflicting regulations on many things, which hurts permitting. Add in the next layer of the Army Corps permit...

I did a job last year in Lake County, IL and between Federal, State and Local, the developer was required to pull 37 different permits related to the site work. THIRTY SEVEN.

The government is not here to help. It's here to exist.
This is where you and I will disagree.

I absolutely think it is the government's job to protect and serve its citizens.  Fire, Police, Military, Education, Environmental protection, building codes, transportation, the postal service, social security, medicare, worker safety, the legal system -- all of these have been positive government programs.

And I've dealt with more red tape and ridiculousness from government organizations than you would believe possible.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2792 on: May 19, 2020, 12:38:38 PM »
well, what the government's job is.......... what it's supposed to be doing

and what the Government actually does, or gets accomplished 

can be two very different things
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2793 on: May 19, 2020, 12:40:02 PM »
The US has more people incarcerated than any country on earth, I don't really view the "legal system" as a success story.  We also have far more lawyers than engineers unlike say Japan.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2794 on: May 19, 2020, 12:40:53 PM »
Here a firetruck has to make a run if an ambulance is called.  I think that policy is widespread.  The firetrucks roar by our house often and they told us 95% were for ambulance runs.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2795 on: May 19, 2020, 12:52:11 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on May 19, 2020, 12:24:26 PM
N.E.Ohio says horse puckey
I will email the IPCC right now and let them know that global warming is a sham because it is cool in N.E. Ohio today.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2796 on: May 19, 2020, 12:56:20 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 19, 2020, 12:38:38 PM
well, what the government's job is.......... what it's supposed to be doing

and what the Government actually does, or gets accomplished

can be two very different things
Yep.  99+% of the time our government actually does a pretty decent job.  But that 1% gets a lot of attention.*

*Disclaimer - I pulled this 99% figure out of my butt.  But certainly the vast majority of the time they do a good job.  Some may disagree, but I rarely have seen data to support that position.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2797 on: May 19, 2020, 12:59:52 PM »
https://www.wri.org/blog/2018/12/new-global-co2-emissions-numbers-are-they-re-not-good

So, meanwhile, CO2 emissions keep going up, globally, and a lot in China and India.  I think we need another meeting to talk about it, perhaps this time in say Bora Bora.  The movie stars so concerned about this can at least be comfortable giving interviews.  The various delegates can meet and relax a bit outside of meetings to clear their minds and contrive some completely useless pieces of paper expressing DEEP concern.  They can plead with world leaders to DO MORE!!!!  And most WLs will of course nod pensively and say they do plan to do more, so they sign a piece of paper saying they will be carbon neutral by 2050.

Everyone is happy.  In another year they can frown about how global CO2 emissions continue to rise and vow to redouble their efforts to sign more papers.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2798 on: May 19, 2020, 01:01:08 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 19, 2020, 12:40:02 PM
The US has more people incarcerated than any country on earth, I don't really view the "legal system" as a success story.  We also have far more lawyers than engineers unlike say Japan.
I'm no expert, but it looks that way on the surface.  Almost 0.75% of the US population is incarcerated, and the next closest country is Russia.  They have 0.6% of their population incarcerated.  Then Ukraine, which is about HALF of Russia's level.

I don't know enough about it beyond those basic numbers.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2799 on: May 19, 2020, 01:01:47 PM »
I would say government does a half decent job perhaps 25% of the time.  Maybe.  I'm being generous.

I see repeated corruption especially at the city level when the mayor's wife for example "runs a charity" which gets large donations from the folks how get the garbage contract owned by the mayor's cousin.
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