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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1638 on: July 14, 2019, 03:54:29 PM »
He became a professor of inorganic chemistryat Purdue University in 1947[6] and joined the Beta Nu Chapter of Alpha Chi Sigma there in 1960.[7] He held the position of Professor Emeritus from 1978 until his death in 2004.[3] The Herbert C. Brown Laboratory of Chemistry was named after him on Purdue University's campus. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1639 on: July 14, 2019, 03:55:02 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 14, 2019, 03:52:34 PM
Who?
I was, at times, though I resisted it and got into career trouble for it.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1640 on: July 14, 2019, 03:57:15 PM »
Scientists are not on the freaking take.  Stop putting it out there!  Scientists don't care about the poltiical BS and just want to make new discoveries.  They want to recreate what others have done to check their work and/or prove others false, to become famous themselves...and not pop-culture famous, but scientifically famous.  We all know Stephen Hawking, but he MIGHT be one of the 10 most prominent astrophysicists among actual astrophysicists.  They want to become famous among their peers and to the young scientists in the next generation.  




That's all they want.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1641 on: July 14, 2019, 03:59:39 PM »
I would not generalize quite to that extent.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1642 on: July 14, 2019, 04:00:39 PM »
I didn't know about any of that. I'm really attracted to how you described Herb Brown, though. Considering *anything* "proven" and literally "final" is a major pet peeve for me, too. I'm happy to assign 0.9999999 probabilities but whereas rounding up to 1.0 is practical and "feels fair," it's not scientific. It's also arrogant and erodes the public trust.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1643 on: July 14, 2019, 04:03:14 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 14, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
I don't recall signing any COI, but that was back in the day, almost before the printing press.
It's a modern movement. Routine over the last ten-ish years. Which is a good thing.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1644 on: July 14, 2019, 04:06:38 PM »
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1979/brown/biographical/

OT - About Herb Brown, his early story, I found it interesting.  He was brilliant.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1645 on: July 14, 2019, 04:08:04 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_L._Eliel

This is the guy I thought I would work for in grad school, but didn't.  He was on my committee, very very nice man.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1646 on: July 14, 2019, 04:13:59 PM »
That's an inspiring life! Crazy how it sounds that if he'd lived a thousand lives, maybe only this one would have ended as a Laureate.
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« Reply #1647 on: July 14, 2019, 04:25:36 PM »
I've been lucky to work one or two degrees from three Nobel Laureates:

One-degree:
This (Kobilka) was a main collaborator of ours, at my undergraduate laboratory (Sunahara). He flew in from San Francisco to attend our lab meeting every other month. He's a totally normal, likable guy:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Kobilka

Two-degree:
This was the post-doctoral lab (Gilman) for my advisor Sunahara:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_G._Gilman

This was the post-doctoral lab (Deisenhofer) for one of my graduate advisors (Dann):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Deisenhofer

The unifying thread between them all is membrane protein structure. On my first project as an undergraduate, I knew my competitor was another Laureate, Rod MacKinnon. I definitely didn't win that race and had to settle for a lesser story without solving the structure of a potassium channel from human atrial myocytes. Now I'm trying to be the first to solve the structure of a specific type of ATPase in a membrane. I'd say more but I think this page is googleable and don't want to be the reason my competitors get stoked to go faster.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1648 on: July 14, 2019, 04:39:19 PM »
The hardest part, of course, is making sure you end up doing something better than "I used to be kind of close to some great people."
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1649 on: July 14, 2019, 04:47:23 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 14, 2019, 03:57:15 PM
Scientists are not on the freaking take.  Stop putting it out there!  Scientists don't care about the poltiical BS and just want to make new discoveries.  

Says you,I'm sure most are fine upstanding folks.Remember the BP Deepwater Disaster in less than 2 weeks those creeps had their own shills doing commercials saying EVERYTHING WAS ALMOST CLEANED UP.When infact they threw some type of dispersing agent all around for miles making it appear pretty & clear.Damage control when they finally are busted.They cut corners and play the oopsie card - some heads should have rolled
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1650 on: July 14, 2019, 04:51:24 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on July 14, 2019, 04:39:19 PM
"I used to be kind of close to some great people."
I still am I have portraits of Washington,Lincoln,Hamilton and Jefferson in my back pocket
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1651 on: July 14, 2019, 04:57:33 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 14, 2019, 04:47:23 PM
Says you,I'm sure most are fine upstanding folks.Remember the BP Deepwater Disaster in less than 2 weeks those creeps had their own shills doing commercials saying EVERYTHING WAS ALMOST CLEANED UP.When infact they threw some type of dispersing agent all around for miles making it appear pretty & clear.Damage control when they finally are busted.They cut corners and play the oopsie card - some heads should have rolled

You mean the giant, multi-billion dollar company was dishonest?  What does that have anything to do with my post?
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