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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #126 on: January 02, 2018, 08:45:52 AM »
It was -27 F in my local this AM.  If not for Global Warming it might have been as low as -27.2 F.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #127 on: January 02, 2018, 11:39:31 AM »
I have some friends in phoenix who used to send me pictures of them golfing in Dec or Jan.   This past year, I sent them pictures of me standing outside in July.  

Very few places are "ideal" year round, and you pay an arm and a leg to live there...   I'd rather put on a jacket than sweat through my shorts.  
It is true, but there are some areas of California that are ideal year round and are rural enough that it's not quite an arm and a leg... Maybe just a leg lol. Place like Portland or Seattle as well will get "winter", but are close enough to the water that it's a very temperate winter. Granted, I wouldn't want to live in Seattle due to traffic, which sounds odd from someone currently in SoCal. But Seattle traffic is brutal. 
But there are a lot of places where it may not be ideal year round, but you don't hit the extremes of the upper Midwest in the winter nor of Phoenix/Vegas in the summer.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #128 on: January 02, 2018, 11:40:18 AM »
You fargin bastage!
You know we ain't got no runzas down here, right?  You'd hate the place.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #129 on: January 04, 2018, 06:01:29 PM »
Chicago looks to set a record this week for most days in a row without hitting 20 degrees.

The record was set in 1895.

I just heard that on the news. I wonder how many other records are falling out there, in places like Georgia and stuff.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #130 on: January 04, 2018, 07:49:23 PM »
I was told all 50 states registered a temp below freezing the other day.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #131 on: January 05, 2018, 08:09:01 AM »
Mercury is up to 3 deg already in NE Ohio
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #132 on: January 08, 2018, 05:52:41 PM »
I have some friends in phoenix who used to send me pictures of them golfing in Dec or Jan.   This past year, I sent them pictures of me standing outside in July.  

Very few places are "ideal" year round, and you pay an arm and a leg to live there...   I'd rather put on a jacket than sweat through my shorts.  
I'll take the opposite end. I find sweating in the Arizona Sun purifying, especially once I've capped my day with a shower. It took two summers to get used to Phoenix heat but even before then I preferred a Phoenix July to my childhood memories of winters in Minnesota and Pennsylvania where your feet are numb ice all day and you fight with your siblings as to whose bed the dog and cat get to sleep in to keep you warm through the January night. That to me was far more miserable than the hallucinogenic heat of Las Vegas and Arizona.

And for those who counter with the adage "you can always put on more layers but you can't keep taking clothes off" I'll take sweating through basketball shorts and always needing sunglasses before going through those winters where when waiting for the school bus in the AM dark, it didn't matter how bundled I was - that Minnesota cold was tearing through every layer.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #133 on: January 09, 2018, 01:23:52 AM »
You can all debate this if you want, but climate scientists strongly believe that the Midwest / Northeast polar vortex (or bomb cyclone or whatever you want to call it this year) are climate change related. Historically, the jet stream kept cold weather contained to Alaska and Northern Canada, but there's a strong argument that emissions in the Northeast / Midwest have broken the seal to allow it to bring it so far south. When Jacksonville is colder than Anchorage at any point in time (especially the winter), I think it's fairly obvious that something is wrong.

Fortunately, Rick Perry's plan to subsidize coal and nuclear plants got shut down by FERC (in fact, pretty much everyone including oil & gas companies, except for the coal and nuclear industries were against him for economic reasons alone, much less environmental ones)..... These BS proposed tariffs against solar panels should be rejected, too, with a final decision coming by the 26th, and even then the WTO has shut down similar situations in the past so Trump might not want to embarrass himself.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #134 on: January 09, 2018, 01:54:47 AM »
 so Trump might not want to embarrass himself.
You really think this concerns him?
Global warming is an outdated term - climate change is more accurate.  The trend of warming is real, but it causes more radical cold weather as well....think "The Day After Tomorrow".  
Climate change threatens our weather (both cool and warm) from staying in a comfortable zone - the spikes and valleys of hot and freezing extending past what we find acceptable.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #135 on: January 09, 2018, 08:06:20 AM »
 When Jacksonville is colder than Anchorage at any point in time (especially the winter), I think it's fairly obvious that something is wrong.
Well on the bright side this should be a boom for Big Ten recruiting
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #136 on: January 09, 2018, 02:31:12 PM »
You can all debate this if you want, but climate scientists strongly believe that the Midwest / Northeast polar vortex (or bomb cyclone or whatever you want to call it this year) are climate change related. Historically, the jet stream kept cold weather contained to Alaska and Northern Canada, but there's a strong argument that emissions in the Northeast / Midwest have broken the seal to allow it to bring it so far south. When Jacksonville is colder than Anchorage at any point in time (especially the winter), I think it's fairly obvious that something is wrong.
Not trying to disagree here, but do you have any links describing this? I would like to read more about this hypothesis as I haven't heard it before.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #137 on: January 09, 2018, 03:47:22 PM »
I'm always skeptical whenever I see "climate scientists" cited. A link would be good for me too.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #138 on: January 09, 2018, 09:45:07 PM »
This is admittedly quite debatable, but here's a good article about it: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/climate/cold-climate-change.html
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #139 on: January 09, 2018, 10:41:20 PM »
It just snowed in the Sahara Desert. 

 

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