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Topic: The best current coaches in P5 CFB

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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2020, 01:34:06 PM »
I really could only think of 4 or 5 current coaches that I THINK are top tier coaches and who would do better than the rest just about anywhere.

Saban heads my list, he's hard to ignore, and then Swinney I suppose.  Patterson I think, Fitzpatrick.  I'd give Mullen another year or so, but I think he belongs.

I was also musing about how Smart could make this list IFF UGA wins an NC in the next few years, and then he's on it, whether he's that good a coach or not.  I don't really like that type of thinking (Orgeron).


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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2020, 10:12:19 AM »
So, it seems out of 130+ coaches, or however many are in P5, "we" can't list very many we think are "clearly above average".

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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2020, 10:32:54 AM »
It's very subjective.

The very best coach might be at Cincy right now. Might.

It's a lot to do with fit.

Saban didn't light the world on fire at Michigan State, and he sucked at the next level, like many have. Then there's Pete Carrol, who sucked at the next level, elevated USC into a machine, and now he's good at the next level.

Chip Kelly rocked it at Oregon. Then he sucked at the next level, and now he sucks at UCLA. 
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2020, 10:33:03 AM »

But if Dabo Swinney was Michigan's HC tomorrow, I don't think his schtick would fly.


They already tried the whole hot shot coach from the south thing, and it was like an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies. 



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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2020, 12:46:56 PM »
West Virginia isn't exactly the South - it seceded from Virginia and went with the North.But point taken.I really think Miles would have worked out much better than things have in AA
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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2020, 04:40:17 PM »

They already tried the whole hot shot coach from the south thing, and it was like an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies.

I wouldn't compare what RR did at WV with the run Clemson has been on.  And RichRod ain't southern compared to Dabo.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2020, 04:40:42 PM »
West Virginia isn't exactly the South - it seceded from Virginia and went with the North.But point taken.I really think Miles would have worked out much better than things have in AA
Even better than how he's done at Kansas?
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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2020, 06:03:07 PM »
We're not talking hoops - you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit
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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2020, 06:50:43 PM »
I really could only think of 4 or 5 current coaches that I THINK are top tier coaches and who would do better than the rest just about anywhere.

Saban heads my list, he's hard to ignore, and then Swinney I suppose.  Patterson I think, Fitzpatrick.  I'd give Mullen another year or so, but I think he belongs.

I was also musing about how Smart could make this list IFF UGA wins an NC in the next few years, and then he's on it, whether he's that good a coach or not.  I don't really like that type of thinking (Orgeron).
Gary Patterson?  Better than Lincoln Riley, who fails to make your list?
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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2020, 06:56:19 PM »
I forgot about Riley, frankly.  But he's winning with someone else's players I think.  Or something.

I am a bit hesitant to label anyone at a name program a great coach unless he clearly has stepped it up.  Is Smart a great coach?  I don't think so.  He might be.

His record is almost identical to Richt's after five years.

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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2020, 09:14:29 PM »
So, it seems out of 130+ coaches, or however many are in P5, "we" can't list very many we think are "clearly above average".
I think that means we're very bad at defining what it means to be average. 

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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2020, 09:40:45 PM »
Who are the worst current coaches in P5 CFB? 
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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2020, 12:10:13 AM »
Jeff Scott might be.  
There's no reason for South Florida to be winless vs FBS teams.  Now, he was hired and 5 minutes later COVID happened, so it's early, but there's too much talent around there to suck that hard.
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Re: The best current coaches in P5 CFB
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2020, 01:52:00 AM »
I forgot about Riley, frankly.  But he's winning with someone else's players I think.  Or something.

I am a bit hesitant to label anyone at a name program a great coach unless he clearly has stepped it up.  Is Smart a great coach?  I don't think so.  He might be.

His record is almost identical to Richt's after five years.
It must be the "or something," because he's in his 4th year as HFC and he led the charge in recruiting better offensive players his 2 years as OC under Bob Stoops.
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