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847badgerfan

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My wife has been wanting a meat grinder, and I have the KitchenAid so I'll probably go for that.  Kenji from Serious Eats recs keeping it in the freezer - have you done that?
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Lately I've been using brisket, short ribs and whatever trimmings I get off of tenderloins. Be curious to see how yours comes out. Should be enough fat, I'd think.
Yeah, the big thing is that the Costco ground beef is 88% lean, and that's just not right for burgers. I figure a brisket/chuck mix will be closer to 70/30. I feel like the cost of short rib and tenderloin is just too rich for a burger blend.

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It's not about keeping it in the freezer. It's about putting it in there before you use it. Same with the meat. Put the meat in the freezer a little while to get it VERY cold (but not frozen or it won't grind). The idea being that heat of the grind will partially melt the fat in the meat which you want to keep intact. So the colder that everything is (without being frozen solid), the better.

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Yeah, the big thing is that the Costco ground beef is 88% lean, and that's just not right for burgers. I figure a brisket/chuck mix will be closer to 70/30. I feel like the cost of short rib and tenderloin is just too rich for a burger blend.
I'm thinking I get 75/25 on mine. I'm not grinding tenderloin - just the trimmings. I like to buy tenderloin, so I can control what my filet migon is.
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It's not about keeping it in the freezer. It's about putting it in there before you use it. Same with the meat. Put the meat in the freezer a little while to get it VERY cold (but not frozen or it won't grind). The idea being that heat of the grind will partially melt the fat in the meat which you want to keep intact. So the colder that everything is (without being frozen solid), the better.

Yeah, I know the idea.  My issue is I don't have a dedicated freezer and the fridge unit is constantly filled, so not much space for appliances. 

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I would just set it on the back porch or even in the attached garage this morning

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3 of my good friends went together and bought a semi commercial grinder - it's accessible to me at any time.  I should make more of this opportunity
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Investing in a good chest-type deep freezer unit is a great idea, if you have the space.  Does a much better job at keeping things like... oh... sides of beef and such. :)


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I bought an old chest freezer back in 89 when I bought my house.  It was old then.  Got it for $25, the older couple just wanted it out of their basement.  Luckily I have a walk-in basement.

It's still humming along.
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I had a chest freezer when the boys were still home. We no longer needed it, so I gave it to one of them.
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i just got, for free, a chest freezer made for tubs of ice cream in retail... happened to be right place right time thing.  it's likely four feet long, three high, and with a clear plastic lid likely at a 25* angle..... perfect for storing and organizing big cuts of beef or pork.   

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I've had issues with chest freezers and fridges because I use them in an unintended way. For fridges, I use them for fermenting beer with an external temperature controller. It causes a lot of issues because it cycles the compressor too much. I used to use a chest freezer as my kegerator, but it ran into the same problem because I had to modify it to run at 40 degrees instead of sub-zero temps. And it was coupled with the fact that it was in a roasting hot garage during the summer rather than in an environmentally controlled house. 

So I've gone through a few. I now use a convertible fridge/freezer for the kegerator that is DESIGNED to run at fridge temps, and I bought that new instead of from Craigslist, so I expect that to last a while. I still use a fridge in the garage for fermenting, but those are cheap off craigslist until they die.

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hysteresis is the issue with purpose built chest freezers... for them to work properly, they've gotta be full.  otherwise the hysteresis/temperature-delta-to-thermostat-trigger-on/off relationship causes wild fluctuations.... so.... keep it full.  good enough reason as any, huh? 

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I've had issues with chest freezers and fridges because I use them in an unintended way. For fridges, I use them for fermenting beer with an external temperature controller. It causes a lot of issues because it cycles the compressor too much. I used to use a chest freezer as my kegerator, but it ran into the same problem because I had to modify it to run at 40 degrees instead of sub-zero temps. And it was coupled with the fact that it was in a roasting hot garage during the summer rather than in an environmentally controlled house.

So I've gone through a few. I now use a convertible fridge/freezer for the kegerator that is DESIGNED to run at fridge temps, and I bought that new instead of from Craigslist, so I expect that to last a while. I still use a fridge in the garage for fermenting, but those are cheap off craigslist until they die.
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or buy one that is older than you are

those things just run
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