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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14084 on: June 15, 2021, 06:14:57 PM »
Truthfully I don't know what the plans are for schools... It's county-by-county. My kids have been doing in-person learning since last October. The two in the charter school had some interruptions, but those were school policy, not gov't restriction. 

Los Angeles County was different and I get the sense that the school board there wants distance learning forever. But even then it wasn't a decision mandated by Sacramento, it was local.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14085 on: June 15, 2021, 06:28:11 PM »
A new analysis of blood samples from 24,000 Americans taken early last year is the largest study to suggest the coronavirus popped up in the U.S. in December 2019.

https://apnews.com/article/more-evidence-covid-in-US-by-Christmas-2019-11346afc5e18eee81ebcf35d9e6caee2
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14086 on: June 15, 2021, 06:38:32 PM »
It is so contagious, I'm somewhat dubious it could have been here 3 months earlier and not detected.  maybe.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14087 on: June 15, 2021, 06:39:35 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14088 on: June 15, 2021, 06:53:02 PM »
It is so contagious, I'm somewhat dubious it could have been here 3 months earlier and not detected.  maybe.
Recall one of the studies that I posted way back last summer talking about the various known strains at the time. The original Wuhan strain was not believed to be as transmissible as what it mutated to in Europe, which was MUCH easier to transmit.

This would explain many things:

  • Asia, which wasn't hit hard. Part of this was probably mask policy and general public sentiment, but part was that they locked down while only that strain was local and locked down hard enough that they didn't repatriate the Euro strain. 
  • Washington, believed to be the first cases in the US, were [as I understand it] from Asia, not Europe, and Washington wasn't really hit very hard in the first wave.
  • California, likewise, wasn't hit hard in the first wave, which wouldn't make tons of sense given the high amount of travel between Asia and California.
  • Europe, starting with Italy and then spreading, was hit MASSIVELY.
  • New York / New Jersey, with much more of a travel nexus with Europe than Asia, were hit early and massively. 

So I can see it plausible that we had a few very small pockets of infection popping up with the original Wuhan strain that was growing slowly enough to be "in the noise" and not high enough to have caught the attention of public health officials, particularly since the symptoms were so similar to influenza and it was basically right in the middle of flu season. 

Am I certain of any of that? No. But I can construct a very plausible explanation for why it may have been just starting to make its way to the US in December. 

Much earlier than that, and it's no longer plausible.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14089 on: June 15, 2021, 06:55:09 PM »
I like your theory.  May not be right, but it makes some sense.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14090 on: June 15, 2021, 10:47:13 PM »
Multiple teachers at Santee Community Schools have resigned because of a local mandate requiring them to get vaccinated for COVID-19 in time for the upcoming school year.

The district board of education earlier this month approved nine resignations, many of which were solely because of the mandate, said Superintendent Todd Chessmore.

The Santee Sioux Nation tribal council passed the guideline June 2, requiring all employees within the boundaries of the reservation to get fully vaccinated for COVID-19. The mandate officially goes into effect July 1.

Tara Meyer had been employed with the district for two years as a high school science teacher. As a South Dakota resident, she would drive about 110 miles round-trip every day for her job.


The tribal council previously passed a mandate in April that only required tribal employees to get vaccinated, but it was changed to all employees within the reservation on June 2.

The guideline comes after a history of increased COVID-19 restrictions within the reservation that were put in place to be proactive in curbing virus spread. The Santee Sioux Nation had implemented travel restrictions and road checkpoints in 2020 for anyone entering or leaving the reservation.

Chessmore said that despite staffing concerns, he is confident the district “will make sure to provide a quality education.”


https://beatricedailysun.com/news/state-and-regional/multiple-santee-teachers-resign-because-of-covid-vaccine-requirement/article_cca5b37b-3c99-56ba-917c-6a8893dcc5df.html
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14091 on: June 16, 2021, 04:58:40 PM »
Turns out the thing on my leg (don't worry, I won't post pictures) is in fact shingles, and not a bug bite. 

Anecdotally, my wife says that from her office's experience, there has been an uptick in outbreaks of people who experience cold sores and an increase in shingles outbreaks after the vaccine, possibly because of the stress it puts on the immune system.

For me, that's the second shingles outbreak I've had in under 3 years, so my PCP will give me a prescription for the shingles vaccine, even though it's typically not used until age 50. But you're not supposed to get the vaccine until 3 months after the COVID vaccine, so I've still got a bit. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14092 on: June 16, 2021, 05:26:39 PM »
I know two people in my personal circle that have had mild shingles outbreaks within a couple months of getting the vaccine.  May or may not be related, but sounds like your doc thinks it might be.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14093 on: June 16, 2021, 07:34:06 PM »
I hope not, I did have both Shingrix vaccines.  I had a reaction the number 2.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14094 on: June 23, 2021, 11:11:43 PM »
man he was the GOAT at this. Daily Show was like my go-to, now it's just god awful. why'd he have to leave? he's so effortlessly funny, it's scary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtTvXZ5lby8

side note: how did Colbert go from having one of the greatest comedy shows ever with the Colbert Report to being a hack with a shit show in record time? He should've never went to hosting a lame talk show- when he had one of the funniest comedy shows of all-time.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14096 on: June 24, 2021, 09:17:38 PM »
Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%.

And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.


https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-06-24/nearly-all-covid-deaths-in-us-are-now-among-unvaccinated
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14097 on: June 25, 2021, 09:46:15 AM »
It would be interesting to know more about the 150 vaccinated folks who died with COVID.  

 

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