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FearlessF

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14098 on: June 25, 2021, 09:57:37 AM »
yup, but probably not a pretty story

might be gunshot wounds and motorcycle accidents
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14099 on: June 25, 2021, 09:59:49 AM »
I was hopeful that at minimum being vaccinated would mean you would not get a serious case if you contracted it.  Perhaps these folks were nearly all past 80, or morbidly obese, etc.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14100 on: June 25, 2021, 10:02:12 AM »
that would be my guess, it least a very high percentage of the 150 - maybe 90%

if trying to encourage the vaccine, they should give this important info
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14101 on: June 25, 2021, 10:34:10 AM »
Cases back on the rise across the UK thanks to the Delta Variant – from the BBC:

"A total of 75,953 cases of Delta were sequenced in the UK up to 16 June, up from 42,323 the previous week. Experts believe a major factor is the number of cases that were introduced into the UK in a short space of time, because of the volume of travel."

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"Public Health England figures show the variant was introduced at least 500 times by travelers. The government placed India on the red list - meaning people returning would face mandatory hotel quarantine - on 23 April."

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"This was after the World Health Organization had classified Delta as a "variant of interest" and after it was known to be in the UK, but before it had been designated as a "variant of concern" by the UK health authorities."

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"And while it was not immediately clear which of several variants was causing problems in India, it was becoming increasingly clear the country was experiencing a devastating toll from the virus."

BBC’s article toes around the direct questions, namely, why doesn’t/didn’t the UK suspend all direct flights to/from India? And why (if you read the whole article linked below) doesn’t the article make plain as to why the Delta variant is taking off in the UK well before the rest of continental Europe? The BBC won’t point out that London has Europe’s most (by far) direct flights to/from India, where the Delta Variant is still peaking?


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57489740






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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14102 on: June 25, 2021, 10:34:27 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 25, 2021, 10:02:12 AM
that would be my guess, it least a very high percentage of the 150 - maybe 90%

if trying to encourage the vaccine, they should give this important info
In my mind its more important to know more about folks who died from the vaccine after not getting the virus
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14103 on: June 25, 2021, 10:35:25 AM »
that would be good, I'd guess less than 150, but no data
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14104 on: June 25, 2021, 10:36:33 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 25, 2021, 10:35:25 AM
that would be good, I'd guess less than 150, but no data
last I saw it was in the thousands
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14105 on: June 25, 2021, 11:23:07 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 25, 2021, 10:36:33 AM
last I saw it was in the thousands
The number I saw that was in the thousands, was the number of COVID deaths that had occurred despite being fully vaccinated.  Something like 1500 out of 84,000,000 at the time, which is 0.0017%.

I don't recall seeing any number that represented number of deaths attributed directly to the vaccine, without catching COVID at all.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14106 on: June 25, 2021, 11:44:46 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 25, 2021, 11:23:07 AM
The number I saw that was in the thousands, was the number of COVID deaths that had occurred despite being fully vaccinated.  Something like 1500 out of 84,000,000 at the time, which is 0.0017%.

I don't recall seeing any number that represented number of deaths attributed directly to the vaccine, without catching COVID at all.
I really dont think this is a surprise and Im not saying we should not get vaccinated

however there is currently a debate about vaccinating folks under 18
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14107 on: June 25, 2021, 12:45:17 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 25, 2021, 11:44:46 AM
I really dont think this is a surprise and Im not saying we should not get vaccinated

however there is currently a debate about vaccinating folks under 18
Yup, especially males under 18.  Even, under 25, actually.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14108 on: June 25, 2021, 01:13:14 PM »
My son had his second last week. No side effects beyond sore arm and light fatigue. So that's good.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14109 on: June 25, 2021, 01:13:41 PM »
What percentage of the population is currently vaccinated in the UK? 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14110 on: June 25, 2021, 01:26:17 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on June 25, 2021, 01:13:41 PM
What percentage of the population is currently vaccinated in the UK?
47.9% as of 6/22




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14111 on: June 25, 2021, 01:38:50 PM »
I don't know how one could know how many "died from the vaccine" without a comparable study of how many not vaccinated in a control group with similar populations who died.
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