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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12418 on: February 09, 2021, 01:31:55 PM »
young people in their 20s or early 30s will wait quite some time before they need to make that decision.  a year from now possibly, at least 6 months?

by that time, they will have much more information to help them with the decision.  Hopefully, 6 months from now the virus isn't spreading much at all and the thought of being vaccinated for the good of the population isn't much of a thought.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12419 on: February 09, 2021, 01:42:34 PM »
The water at 11,100 PPM NaOH would be 0.375 Molar, high pH, not much buffer capacity.  You could drink a small quantity, but not much, and it would burn your eyes.  I'm surprised they would have enough NaOH "on line" to treat what probably was a large amount of water.  The story COULD have the wrong figures.

Perhaps of more danger is pH that high could extract metals from pipes that could be bad, but it is usually acid that does that.

That is a lot of NaOH if the water supply being treated was thousands of gallons.




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12420 on: February 09, 2021, 01:52:57 PM »
young people in their 20s or early 30s will wait quite some time before they need to make that decision.  a year from now possibly, at least 6 months?

by that time, they will have much more information to help them with the decision.  Hopefully, 6 months from now the virus isn't spreading much at all and the thought of being vaccinated for the good of the population isn't much of a thought.
I don't think it will be that long. I think by May, we're going to see more vaccine supply than we see demand.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12421 on: February 09, 2021, 01:55:36 PM »
it would burn your eyes, but would it burn your pipes badly enough to cause a trip to the hospital?  poisoning?

I was in a restaurant for lunch 30 years  ago, one of the waitresses (that's what everyone called them back then) was rinsing out drinking glasses with bleach water.  Another waitress unknowingly grabbed one of the glasses and served a guy some ice water.  Dude, took a small drink or two, didn't notice anything.

after learning of her mistake, the waitress, picked up the glass from his table and told him what happened.  He became very upset and accused her of trying to poison him.  Got up and left in a huff stated that they would certainly heard from his attorney!

I thought it amusing as heck!  Still think the guy was a douchebag.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12422 on: February 09, 2021, 01:56:49 PM »
I don't think it will be that long. I think by May, we're going to see more vaccine supply than we see demand.
I certainly hope you're right and I feel you are.
Utee, of course, isn't nearly as optimistic 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12423 on: February 09, 2021, 02:03:27 PM »
I certainly hope you're right and I feel you are.
Utee, of course, isn't nearly as optimistic

Oh I absolutely agree we'll see that much supply, by the end of May, of a liquid that gets injected into people's arms.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12424 on: February 09, 2021, 02:04:46 PM »
Oh I absolutely agree we'll see that much supply, by the end of May, of a liquid that gets injected into people's arms.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12425 on: February 09, 2021, 02:07:50 PM »
Oh I absolutely agree we'll see that much supply, by the end of May, of a liquid that gets injected into people's arms.

A liquid?  Wont it be vaccine?  Do you know something we dont know about the vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12426 on: February 09, 2021, 02:09:31 PM »
I thought it amusing as heck!  Still think the guy was a douchebag.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12427 on: February 09, 2021, 02:26:42 PM »
A liquid?  Wont it be vaccine?  Do you know something we dont know about the vaccine.
It is a liquid.  Specifically 0.5ml in suspension.  So yeah, if you didn't know that, then I suppose I do know something that you don't.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12428 on: February 09, 2021, 02:30:56 PM »
Report back when someone slips some Clorox into your Shark Water.Got a little reason to be doushy,matter of fact a douche would be safer
a little diluted bleach never hurt anyone
probably less harmful than everclear, which I would never put in my Sharkwater
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12429 on: February 09, 2021, 02:37:40 PM »
It is a liquid.  Specifically 0.5ml in suspension.  So yeah, if you didn't know that, then I suppose I do know something that you don't.

You have been reading OAM posts too much

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12430 on: February 09, 2021, 02:44:45 PM »
You have been reading OAM posts too much

snap out of it man

Well okay then.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12431 on: February 09, 2021, 02:49:37 PM »
Fair.  I apologize for over reacting.  You are one of the most informative folks that post here- so I was not expecting a conspiracy accusation. 

I agree with your entire post here. 

Ironically I just got home from getting my haircut -all six of them.  The younger girl who cuts my hair is about 30-ish with two small children.  She actually brought up the topic totally unsolicited by me and remarked  “ I don’t think I’m going to get the vaccine at least not right now “.

so naturally I said well tell me why you feel that way, what have you read what have you heard?
her answer was not bad. She said she really hasn’t heard anything negative about it other than she read that they don’t necessarily recommend it for people with severe allergies. She just felt that it’s a new vaccine and we have had all these other diseases around for years with no vaccine or no cure- and that she wanted to see longer-term what was going on. She also mentioned that she already had Covid as had most of her friends and none of them had any serious problems with it.

That was really all I was trying to say is that it’s not unreasonable for people to think like that without having been provided any false information and even with having read results so far.

She also mentioned that her grandfather who is about 75 and has additional health issues had gotten the vaccine and she was really happy that he did.
I will say that the bolded portion is important. If she's had the virus already, there is less pressure to get the vaccine IMHO because you have some level of immunity to it. We've seen reinfection is possible, but it appears to be very rare. 


And again, I'm not saying it's unreasonable or abnormal for people to think like that--I'm saying it's irrational. That's not a criticism. People are irrational.

I said it before that psychologically, there's a very big difference between deliberately choosing to go get yourself injected with something vs catching COVID by chance. If you get COVID and you have a severe case, you can write it off as bad luck. If you choose to get a vaccine and have some really bad side effect, you feel like you've made a bad decision. 

We're wired to avoid the latter. 

That's why I think it's seen that the people who have done the most thorough research on the vaccine become more likely to want it than less... Because it allows the rational side of the brain to take over and do cost/benefit analysis whereas the emotional side of the brain is simply risk averse. 

She sounds like she's done zero actual research. So she's letting her risk aversion drive her more than a rational decision. It's not misinformation and it's a 100% natural way to respond, but it's not necessarily an informed decision or the right one if there's no research. 


 

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