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Other countries, and several doctors in THIS country, are having success with it. My doctor has used it. None of his patients are dead.

graphs are just pretty statistics

usually no explanation of how the stats were gathered

lies. damned lies, & statistics

Honestly I am not disputing their stats. Looks pretty legit.

But if I wanted to deceive someone into thinking there was a big conspiracy against HCQ, I'd cherry-pick a bunch of countries with high death rates that limit HCQ, omitting other countries with high death rates that don't limit HCQ. I'd then cherry-pick a bunch of countries with low death rates that use HCQ. 

Unless I understand why those 9 high-death countries were left off the graph and the 5 others were put on the graph, I consider it completely useless information.

Other countries, and several doctors in THIS country, are having success with it. My doctor has used it. None of his patients are dead.

apparently the USA is a country that "limits" use

what the hell is that supposed to mean? 

there are countries than "ban" this drug??  because it's so deadly???

WTH?

I suppose but the people conducting the clinical trials would be the best source.

Depends if they're research scientists or Big Pharma - the latter will bend those numbers to fit the narrative

apparently the USA is a country that "limits" use

what the hell is that supposed to mean? 

there are countries than "ban" this drug??  because it's so deadly???

WTH?

Admittedly it's not scientific, but twitter searches on limits and the drug name don't yield much. 

Are we sure that's not just a term used but someone who wanted to make an MS paint graphic to stir folks up and get attention?

It's assume it's risk/reward.

If it's not shown to raise success rates but creates more risk, probably not recommended.

In any case, maybe the world is just that crazy and doctors en masse are ignoring the magic cure to something that's grinding our nation and world to a halt. I suppose it's an exercise in where we place our cynicism. Some are cynical of the medical establishment writ large (not unfair), others are cynical of an apparatus that doesn't mind puffing up questionable stories and local doctors who go on the evening news.

If it turns out that is really is a magic cure, there will be HELL to pay. But ignored magical cures are probably a rarity in general.

I haven't really seen anyone advocating it as a "magic cure" and I believe it's disingenuous to label it as such, with a pretty clear intention to advance an agenda and dismiss it as charlatanism.

The doctors I've seen advocate it, seem to assert that its use must occur quite early in the infection, and that is when it is effective.  Administering in later stages doesn't help.  If a patient's already at the hospital, they're beyond its reach.

I'm not going to comment on the validity of its use, but as I've been stating for months, the science is pretty clearly not "settled" on it.  There are real, actual doctors all o over the country, and all over the world, that believe it is aiding their patients.  And only one of those doctors, is on record with the whole "demon semen" thing.

Has anyone heard from HonestBuckeye?

How his wife is doing