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Tell me he's smart.  Tell me how mindful he is.  Tell us all how well he's managed this thing.

Correct me!

no one is going to tell you this

we're all aware of who he is

we don't need to be told over and over and over and over again by you
this won't change anything

nothing will change until after November if you're lucky
if you're unlucky, you can put up with it another 4 years

don't tell us at all

tell your friends on Facebook

the poop will hit the fan if that happens cause I dont think the citizens will accept that well

What really pisses me the F off is that I don't think it's businesses being open that's the problem. It's people mingling A LOT with people outside their own household -- without masks or social distancing.

I honestly don't think that going to the grocery store (shoppers masked, workers masked) getting a haircut (stylist/patron masked), getting nails done (provider/patron masked), eating at a restaurant (server masked, social distancing enforced, being there ONLY with your own household) are particularly dangerous. 

It's the people who do things like have big 4th of July parties with all their friends and family that are the problem, which also happen to be the thing that it's *really* hard to police. I had to go to Costco last week, went Thursday midday, and the place was mobbed, with people buying for the holiday. The wife went to the grocery story last Friday, and saw people with carts loaded full of stuff that couldn't be related to anything other than a party. You can police businesses. You can't police jackasses unless their neighbors turn them in, and I don't think that's going to happen. 

So the individuals and businesses that are trying to engage in basic commerce and doing so responsibly will be screwed, while the real problem will continue doing what they're doing.

That's fine for Vermont, but not AZ.

Again, there's little evidence, at least so far, that school closings do much if anything to stop the spread. 

Maybe the evidence is incomplete. But you claim to follow the evidence and science, so it seems, well, ideological to see you ignore or throw out any evidence which doesn't fit your priors...

What really pisses me the F off is that I don't think it's businesses being open that's the problem. It's people mingling A LOT with people outside their own household -- without masks or social distancing.

this is why I was asking about wearing of masks as being the silver bullet to get past this thing.  Obviously, many more folks are wearing masks, or being asked to wear masks, or being forced to wear masks.

if so many more people are wearing masks, and masks are really working, then cases and other numbers should start to drop.

this is why I was asking about wearing of masks as being the silver bullet to get past this thing.  Obviously, many more folks are wearing masks, or being asked to wear masks, or being forced to wear masks.

if so many more people are wearing masks, and masks are really working, then cases and other numbers should start to drop.

I've been harping on this. People need to go out in public. You can't stay cooped up forever. Sometimes it's critical commerce that has to occur. Sometimes it's less critical.

But if the regulation says you need to wear a mask in public and you have 25 people over for a 4th of July party, you're not in "public". And heck, they're just your family and friends. So come on, why would anyone wear a mask there? 

But that's the problem.

• If you're having a bunch of people not from your household together on private property and not wearing masks, it has potential to cause significant spread. 
• If you're meeting people from outside your own household in a place where masks aren't required--say, at a single table in a restaurant--it has potential to cause significant spread. 

If people *barely* do this, it's not that big of a deal. I.e. if a group of 4-5 housewives are mostly doing their best to engage in social distancing and stay home most of the time, and they meet for brunch once a month? Not that big of a deal. Best practice? No, but not very likely to be a "superspreader" type event.

If people... My jackass neighbors, for example... Have guests over to their house 3-4 nights a week (not the same guests as far as we can tell) and don't social distance or wear masks? Big fucking deal. Especially since I doubt those guests are social distancing at all. 

People don't seem to understand that you're supposed to isolate as much as possible. 

I had a PHYS 261 exam at Purdue where I scored a 59, and with the curve, that was an A.

You grade Him on a curve, it's still an F.

It's tough to overstate what a disaster our federal leadership has been. There's no consistent message, there's no consistent data. The story is the same from governors, schools, hospitals, and everyone else. "Where the fuck is the federal government?"