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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6538 on: July 10, 2020, 06:13:44 AM »
1.  We simply can't close everything long enough to have an effective vaccine.  Can't.  That option is not available.
2.  Barring a vaccine, I think area under the curve will be constant just about everywhere unless nearly all of us adopts mask wearing when in public.
3.  Sweden did not experience a total disaster.
4.  France is going back to school.  Their case rate is way down but not zero.  They shut down hard and it worked, but on reopening, unless they wear masks, it'll come back as it did here.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6539 on: July 10, 2020, 08:30:34 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 10, 2020, 06:13:44 AM
1.  We simply can't close everything long enough to have an effective vaccine.  Can't.  That option is not available.
2.  Barring a vaccine, I think area under the curve will be constant just about everywhere unless nearly all of us adopts mask wearing when in public.
3.  Sweden did not experience a total disaster.
4.  France is going back to school.  Their case rate is way down but not zero.  They shut down hard and it worked, but on reopening, unless they wear masks, it'll come back as it did here.

Georgia had a pretty good day yesterday

maybe something is working there
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6540 on: July 10, 2020, 08:44:39 AM »
We MAY have peaked, I wouldn't call it a good day myself.  Deaths remain low at least, hospitals are reportedly getting close to full.

I THINK individuals are pulling back from exposure situations.  The governor reopened April 23, and as I noted, that didn't reopen much in reality.  Then stuff did reopen, and I got the "feeling" that we were past it.  Folks were out and about, the bar next door was crowded again, and noisy.  The protests hit, and I have to believe that was part of the increase, but the bars and younger folks doing what they do was probably more of consequence.

Now, he numbers are scary, worse than in March, and I think folks have dialed it back.  Atlanta now has a public mask ordinance, which may or may not be enforceable of course.  The joggers I see rarely wear a mask, but we maintain distance.

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« Reply #6541 on: July 10, 2020, 08:56:55 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6542 on: July 10, 2020, 09:26:58 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6543 on: July 10, 2020, 09:30:04 AM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/09/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

Gilead said in a statement that remdesivir “was associated with an improvement in clinical recovery and a 62 percent reduction in the risk of mortality compared with standard of care.” The news sent Gilead shares up more than 2% in the premarket. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6544 on: July 10, 2020, 09:35:52 AM »
Texas had another high case day with deaths over 100 again.

One of the leading counties of both cases and deaths is from Hidalgo county which is way down south Texas at McAllen near the Mexican boarder where its high in Hispanics

Wondering how much if any is coming in from Mexico

Oh well it will calm down eventually

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6545 on: July 10, 2020, 10:51:16 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 09, 2020, 11:23:05 PM
Well, he did. And they did.  Have you forgotten?

while his opponents including The media desperately We’re desperately trying to impeach him, he issued the first major move in banning incoming flights from China. They lambasted him- called him every name in the book. Meanwhile they did nothing. In fact in the state with the most deaths of anywhere in the world they openly encouraged people to use the subway to go to restaurants in to watch the parade several weeks after that travel ban was issued.

yes- name a politician that isn’t the butt of jokes. 
where do we start.  Speaker, different governors, his opponent probably has provided more laughs than anyone I can remember. 
He was itching to stick his finger in China's eye at literally every turn, so the fact that He did ONE thing is being pointed to when He's consistently downplayed the virus literally everywhere else. 

And note two things about the "China ban":

  • The major airlines had all announced they were suspending flights from mainland China on Jan 30. He didn't announce His ban until AFTER this happened, and it didn't take effect until Feb 2.
  • Up to 8,000 Chinese nationals have entered the country since His "ban" -- as reported even by Fox News. 


So the one thing that people point to Him doing was late and didn't stop Chinese nationals from entering the country. 

All show, no go. As usual. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6546 on: July 10, 2020, 11:02:10 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on July 10, 2020, 10:51:16 AM
He was itching to stick his finger in China's eye at literally every turn, so the fact that He did ONE thing is being pointed to when He's consistently downplayed the virus literally everywhere else.

And note two things about the "China ban":

  • The major airlines had all announced they were suspending flights from mainland China on Jan 30. He didn't announce His ban until AFTER this happened, and it didn't take effect until Feb 2.
  • Up to 8,000 Chinese nationals have entered the country since His "ban" -- as reported even by Fox News.


So the one thing that people point to Him doing was late and didn't stop Chinese nationals from entering the country.

All show, no go. As usual.
These individuals did not come here from china directly

The purpose was to ban incoming from China 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6547 on: July 10, 2020, 11:24:11 AM »
If Trump had banned Chinese in general no matter where they departed from that would have been racist
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6548 on: July 10, 2020, 11:25:55 AM »
everything he does is racist
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6549 on: July 10, 2020, 11:33:26 AM »
C'mon guys. Virus discussion only please.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6550 on: July 10, 2020, 11:42:45 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 10, 2020, 11:25:55 AM
everything he does is racist
right I forgot
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6551 on: July 10, 2020, 11:43:38 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2020, 11:33:26 AM
C'mon guys. Virus discussion only please.
no problem


lets talk about the elevated Texas death count
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