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I see it as a two-pronged thing.

On one, it became clear that certain approaches were being attached to certain sides. And it meant there could be something performative. This is not to say the MSM is right, but stuff so far down below even that quality was oft bandied about, often it seemed because it supported the point one wanted to make. And my worry there is things become performative, as politicians need an aspect of performance.

The other prong is the areas affected part. I've not yet seen breakdowns of how that would actually operate. At the moment, it seems to be by state, which strikes me as a kind of problematic way of doing things.

well Trump tried to take charge of it and had to give that idea up because it goes against the Constitution

So its up to the states

I dont see why cool areas cant open up and then any hot spots that develop be addressed

Take out here is "OK".  A lot of places have outdoor dining, but I can't get take out and sit at a table outdoors, against the rules.  Seriously.

I see the “R” state or “D” state thing.  There is no denying there is politics at play.

But I also see something deeper here. On it’s face you could call it political, but I think it is actually deeper in our psyche than that.

There is an inherent belief in some- in human responsibility.  Good and bad.  Give people the information, hope they understand it, and most will do the right thing.  They are willing to take the good with the bad so long as they have a high degree of freedom and liberty.  

There is an inherent belief in some in government responsibility.  It is safer feeling..it doesn’t leave much room for interpretation in times like these. Manage human behavior on a more micro level, and you don’t have to worry as much about taking the good with bad.

I am NOT passing judgement on either side...I just don’t see it as right or wrong.  heck, I find myself feeling both at different times and different situations.


And it is not just about government.  In the corporate workplace or society in general, I have seen many many people that are much more comfortable in one environment over the other- and are happy to share how they feel and why they fit better in certain jobs for their comfort level.

And you can see how it might be effected by, or actually cause, metro versus rural.  And you can see how it could deeply impact the situation we are in and why such great debate about where to go next.


Those who want to open things up, truly want to do it in a way they feel is safe.  They feel that we have learned enough and can contain better than before.  They believe they can be creative in how they run their business- and make the changes they need to make to mitigate risk.  They also feel the risk is worthwhile for the reward, for themselves and their sphere and for the country. 


The more structured side truly feels that what is best for them and for people they care about - is to control the environment, including the people.   They might trust themselves but they don’t trust that others can pull it off, and are nowhere near willing to risk it.   They are very comfortable in a controlled, structured environment where freedom is relative.

Not sure how well I articulated it, but that is what I see.  

That could be the case. So when is the “right” time to open the economy back up? You seem to be of the opinion it isn’t now.  When is it?

I've asked this over and over. 

Like everything, when people think the right time is can be plotted on a bell curve.  I'm of the opinion that things should open back up whenever the highest number of people want it opened back up.  That isn't now.  It's not in July (or whenever the lastest month you've heard).  It's somewhere in between.  

Not toxic.  About a mile north of city limits, Manchester, Iowa. Enjoy. Click, and keep clicking. Enjoy.

American Bald Eagle, Manchester, Iowa by Mark Roeder, on Flickr

I'd note again that this state is not throwing a light switch and returning to normal.  And many mayors are encouraging people to remain in place, and many will be scared to go out much, and many workers will prefer UE payments and not want to work.  

Restaurants are to separate tables, so your primary exposure is your server, which relative to take out is not a huge increase in risk it seems to me.  Outdoor dining should be fine, they can provide take out and let you sit at tables that are separated.

Opening the gyms looks dubious to me, tattoo parlors, whatever else, but they are suppose to limit the number of people inside, so things are still limited.  It should be interesting.

In terms of additional risk, it looks fairly small to me overall.  Somebody needs to try something to see what happens.  That bad part is we won't know for a month what happened, at least.

In a followup to a local Houston judges crap ruling

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-judges-30-day-coronavirus-mask-order-blasted-as-ultimate-government-overreach