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Coal country would be an awesome place to live if you were independently wealthy, and didn't have to figure out a way to earn a living.

The Chicago ghettos, not so much. 

The point is that it's not easy to invoke changes upon people who a) don't know anything different, b) don't want to know, or c) refuse assistance in changing.

They're all battling to be the last sap with black-lung in the last coal mine.



That was hardly the context of the post in question

I've got a few neighborhoods in Chicago that could use a speech on this.

Sorry, but I can't see this map without thinking, "wow, it's almost as if someone 'red-lined' some neighborhoods there--oh wait; that's exactly what happened."

In both coal country and Chicago (and a lot of other places), the story is a lot more complex than "those lazy poor people."

Sorry, but I can't see this map without thinking, "wow, it's almost as if someone 'red-lined' some neighborhoods there--oh wait; that's exactly what happened."

In both coal country and Chicago (and a lot of other places), the story is a lot more complex than "those lazy poor people."

Correct. Change is hard.

OAM’s biggest problem is that he can’t fathom people have a different opinion than he does. If he deems coal mining a “shitty job” then he thinks it is universally regarded that way.

Every comment he makes regarding the subject is based on the belief that no one would want to do that for a living and the people doing it are incapable of change and just accept their plight.

Coal mining is hard and dangerous work and it isn’t something that OAM or me or maybe anyone else on here would want to, but some people do for the trade off of good money.

OAM’s biggest problem is that he can’t fathom people have a different opinion than he does. If he deems coal mining a “shitty job” then he thinks it is universally regarded that way.

Every comment he makes regarding the subject is based on the belief that no one would want to do that for a living and the people doing it are incapable of change and just accept their plight.

Coal mining is hard and dangerous work and it isn’t something that OAM or me or maybe anyone else on here would want to, but some people do for the trade off of good money.

I've done many crap jobs for decent money
working in a meat packing plant is just one of them

Perhaps there's always a few,the folks I knew from WV would share their last cracker with you.The only time they looked down on someone was when they were helping them up.

There's a snarky thing I want to write, but it would lead down the road to me getting cussed out again, so I shall refrain. 

Perhaps in the good times, I wouldn't have heard nary a word about "personal responsibility" when discussing the social plights of urban decay in large cities. I hope I would've heard a lot of empathy and talk of charity. I hope that's the case.

(What would be the closest city to WV that saw that sort of trouble? Probably Youngstown?)