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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1442 on: April 07, 2020, 05:16:47 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 07, 2020, 04:35:45 PM
Wait, I thought this virus escaped from a lab in Wuhan. What do the wildlife markets have to do with it?

I'm having trouble keeping it straight...
It was either from a market in Wuhan or it was an accidental contamination in a lab in Wuhan that was studying bats. That’s all we know for sure.

There have been many cases of viruses jumping from wildlife species to wildlife species to humans in Africa and Asia because of wildlife wet markets and the bushmeat trade. HIV has killed how many tens of millions of people worldwide? Guess how that one started. Bushmeat trade in Africa.

We honestly got lucky with this one. It’s not as bad as it could be. Time to shut all the wildlife wet markets and bushmeat trade down. If the barbarians who live in these countries don’t want to do stop, the US has an obligation to it’s citizens and to the rest of the world to stop it for them.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1443 on: April 07, 2020, 05:41:02 PM »
Well, my wife's PT clinic is about to shutter its doors.  There aren't enough patients coming in to sustain it.  So she'll be out of a job in the near future with no real way to gain another one because this is an industry-wide problem.

We'll survive of course, we're fortunate that this isn't life or death for us, as it might be for others.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1444 on: April 07, 2020, 05:43:35 PM »
Prolly get called back or be in demand when the virus tide subsides.PTs are always in demand.Good Luck
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1445 on: April 07, 2020, 05:44:45 PM »
Don't think she'll be called back, her clinic is a private, local firm and most likely isn't going to make it.

There will be other PT jobs, once it's all over.  But she won't be able to work until the patients are willing to come back.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1446 on: April 07, 2020, 05:47:52 PM »
Depends on the severity of the condition I suppose,and of course some type of cure for the virus
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1447 on: April 07, 2020, 05:50:53 PM »
Not going to be a cure for the virus, herd immunity is all that's going to work. Realistically, it's all that was EVER going to work.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1448 on: April 07, 2020, 05:55:01 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 07, 2020, 05:50:53 PM
Not going to be a cure for the virus, herd immunity is all that's going to work. Realistically, it's all that was EVER going to work.
Have you followed the WHO "Solidarity" trial? 

It's not a "cure" for the virus, of course, but it's trying to find adequate treatments to reduce the mortality. And their goal is to fire this thing off MUCH faster than typical medical trials, across the globe, to try to quickly determine what will or won't work. 

If we can treat this thing without ICU beds and ventilators, it becomes a COMPLETELY different ball game. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1449 on: April 07, 2020, 06:01:32 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 07, 2020, 05:16:47 PM

We honestly got lucky with this one. It’s not as bad as it could be. Time to shut all the wildlife wet markets and bushmeat trade down. If the barbarians who live in these countries don’t want to do stop, the US has an obligation to it’s citizens and to the rest of the world to stop it for them.
I'm reeeeally glad you're not the president.  No offense, but whoa.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1450 on: April 07, 2020, 06:03:53 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 07, 2020, 02:04:52 PM


I heard you can buy those in vending machines in Japan...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1451 on: April 07, 2020, 06:04:57 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 07, 2020, 05:50:53 PM
Not going to be a cure for the virus, herd immunity is all that's going to work. Realistically, it's all that was EVER going to work.


Herd immunity doesn't work well with colds and influenza, and not well with many corona types.

They morph too much, though this one may not as much, we don't know.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1452 on: April 07, 2020, 06:06:04 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 07, 2020, 05:50:53 PM
Not going to be a cure for the virus, herd immunity is all that's going to work. Realistically, it's all that was EVER going to work.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1453 on: April 07, 2020, 06:08:45 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 07, 2020, 05:55:01 PM
Have you followed the WHO "Solidarity" trial?

It's not a "cure" for the virus, of course, but it's trying to find adequate treatments to reduce the mortality. And their goal is to fire this thing off MUCH faster than typical medical trials, across the globe, to try to quickly determine what will or won't work.

If we can treat this thing without ICU beds and ventilators, it becomes a COMPLETELY different ball game.
Yeah I've been watching the various approaches, with interest.  Definitely hopeful they'll come up with something effective, and much much sooner.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1454 on: April 07, 2020, 06:10:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 07, 2020, 06:04:57 PM
Herd immunity doesn't work well with colds and influenza, and not well with many corona types.

They morph too much, though this one may not as much, we don't know.
Vaccines don't work too well, either.

I've already predicted we're weeks-- not months-- away from having to uncork the bottle and let the virus run its course.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1455 on: April 07, 2020, 06:13:28 PM »
Vaccines work "OK" on influenza.  And I think we can uncork this while still protecting those who are extremely vulnerable.

I "think" R naught for this is less than had been predicted/expected/forecast.
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