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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1414 on: April 07, 2020, 12:09:18 PM »


This is how I entered the gas station by me last night.  It felt like I should be robbing the place. 
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And yes, wearing such things is for other people, not for yourself.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1415 on: April 07, 2020, 12:18:35 PM »
Mask protocol for the public has been changing, it seems. It doesn't protect the person wearing it, "they" now say. For weeks we were told to not bother.

Mask protocol for health care workers has not changed at all. They wear them for their own protection (and others), we're told, as in PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). 

OK then. I have my answer.

Mrs. 847 took two surgical masks we had and beefed them up. If I go out in a public place (for cigars or booze), I'll be wearing one, along with glasses. For my protection primarily, but also in consideration of others.

The N95's I found have been donated already. I felt bad keeping them when so many are needed.


Has anyone tried to find elastic anywhere? Elastic is the new TP. We have some coming, thankfully, from a nice family friend. 

Mrs. 847 will have enough material to make 500 masks, which will be dropped off at the police station this weekend.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1416 on: April 07, 2020, 12:22:10 PM »
Just drove from south Florida to Michigan overnight- to be with mom who is in her final hours.  

Traffic was very light.  There was an eeriness to it. Drive through only for food and even many gas stations had doors locked.  

Perhaps the most unique thing was the police checkpoints at all the exits at and around entrance to Florida. It’s like a movie, but real. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1417 on: April 07, 2020, 12:25:19 PM »
I offer my deepest sympathy HB. Best wished to your mom and her family.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1418 on: April 07, 2020, 12:26:38 PM »
The quality of the mask is not the only important factor.  One has to wear it properly to have much personal protection, and most folks don't know how to wear them, believe it or not.  Most also don't appreciate how often they need to be discarded (or washed if possible).  Wearing a mask may give one too much confidence when it simply is not effective.

If someone sneezes and you have a mask on, the microdroplets can penetrate from the side, or land on the exterior of the mask and then get on your hands which then may go to adjust your mask and infect your eyes or nose or mouth.  If you atomize for example some fine carbon black to smudge a mask, you would find most wearers would have carbon black all over their face in about 15 minutes.

And of course if the edge fit is not tight ....

I had to have a respirator when I was working and we had to be fitted for it and tested for how to wear it properly.  These things are rather uncomfortable and the cartridges have to be replaced fairly often, but they would provide decent protection so long as you don't touch the outside of them and then transfer to your orifi.

But even a crude mask will prevent your sneeze from creating a large cloud of droplets around you.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1419 on: April 07, 2020, 12:32:58 PM »
I've been trained on how to wear a mask too. So has my wife, being in the healthcare industry for so long. She took an N95, studied it, and now can make something extremely close to it - layers and all. The fit is tight too. You tube is a nice tool.

When I went to my doctor in early January, while sick, he gave me some masks - the surgical kind. He knew I would be doing air travel quite a bit in late January and throughout February. He told me to wear the masks on the plane. I actually did, on the last two flights. I'll admit that now.

Those are the masks that are now beefed up.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1420 on: April 07, 2020, 12:34:21 PM »
My mom has made cloth masks for the whole family.  My wife is wearing them while she works as a PT at their outpatient clinic.  I wore one to the store the other day. 
We bought a couple of cloth masks, and I wore mine when I had to go to the store on Friday. I felt like a complete and total doofus. 

Err... Even more of a complete and total doofus than normal, I should say...

Really the sole purpose of a mask of this ilk is to prevent YOU from infecting someone else.  The protection it affords YOU personally is minimal, to zero.
I don't know that I buy that. Any barrier is better than no barrier. It makes you much less likely to inhale airborne droplets containing the virus--and even if some of the virus gets through a cloth mask, it will reduce the viral load and perhaps give your body a smaller dose for your immune system to attack. 

What I would say is that I suspect a lot of people with the mask/gloves thing get a false sense of safety and then may be more reckless. In high school, I was a "sandwich artist" at Subway and one of the reasons that they didn't wear gloves is that it's much more important to regularly wash your hands (and not touch your face) than to wear gloves, because the virus doesn't seep through the skin on your hands. If you're wearing gloves and forget not to touch your face with the glove, you're just as screwed as if you did it with your bare finger. Gloves and masks aren't magic.

My protocol if I leave the house for an errand is to take sanitary wipes with me in the car. When I get to my location, I'll put on my mask. When I get out of the store and load the car, the first thing I do when I get into the car (before touching the steering wheel, before starting the ignition, etc) is to use the sanitary wipe to wash my hands, remove the mask, wipe down my hands AGAIN, and then I'm good to go. The idea is to not allow myself to be complacent about potentially touching my face with infected hands. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1421 on: April 07, 2020, 12:36:35 PM »
Just drove from south Florida to Michigan overnight- to be with mom who is in her final hours. 
Sorry to hear, brother. Good luck. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1422 on: April 07, 2020, 12:44:22 PM »
Wearing a mask provides minimal benefits to the person wearing it.  That's a widely accepted fact.

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/covid-19-when-should-you-wear-a-face-mask/




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1423 on: April 07, 2020, 12:47:13 PM »
My wife brought some masks home for us to wear when we go out.  I wore mine this morning when I ran to the grocery store and have to admit I felt like a dork even though many people are wearing them.  My aunt is making us some masks to wear with the flying WV on them.  If I’m going to wear a damn mask I might as well show support for my team.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1424 on: April 07, 2020, 12:52:24 PM »
Covid-19 is Gator Bait!
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Hey, WVU, burn Coronavirus' couch!
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A Crimson Tide of sanitizer will warsh away the virus!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1425 on: April 07, 2020, 12:53:30 PM »
HB - I'm sorry.  It's good you could get down there.  I feel for you.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1426 on: April 07, 2020, 12:53:51 PM »
My wife brought some masks on for us to wear when we go out.  I wore mine this morning when I ran to the grocery store and have to admit I felt like a dork even though many people are wearing them.  My aunt is making us some masks to wear with the flying WV on them.  If I’m going to wear a damn mask I might as well show support for my team.
The one my mom made for me, is from Longhorn fabric.  Hook 'em! :)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1427 on: April 07, 2020, 12:54:48 PM »
Just drove from south Florida to Michigan overnight- to be with mom who is in her final hours. 

Traffic was very light.  There was an eeriness to it. Drive through only for food and even many gas stations had doors locked. 

Perhaps the most unique thing was the police checkpoints at all the exits at and around entrance to Florida. It’s like a movie, but real.
Very sorry to hear, I hope you're able to get some peace and closure from the visit.

 

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