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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1470 on: April 07, 2020, 09:55:52 PM »
Yes.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1471 on: April 07, 2020, 10:32:56 PM »
Not to leave you in suspense, Afro:

Matthew, Chapter 11 (KJV)
Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1472 on: April 07, 2020, 10:40:36 PM »
Right.  
The wizard forbids you from pulling back the curtain.
You don't say.
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« Reply #1474 on: April 07, 2020, 11:09:03 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1475 on: April 08, 2020, 12:14:47 AM »
Trump is going to try to withdraw US funds for WHO
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1476 on: April 08, 2020, 01:17:13 AM »
Right. 
The wizard forbids you from pulling back the curtain.
You don't say.
You can sit on it and rotate.

You asked what was my support for the charge that to test God is heretical.  In asking, you accept the validity of God and heresy.  So I cite a fundamental passage from an appropriate text on God and what not to do in one's relationship with God.  So now you don't accept those things, and you go back to being your normal sarcastic smart-ass self about it.

Why should I bother to answer your next question?  There's no point in it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1477 on: April 08, 2020, 07:08:36 AM »
The common cold is caused by a large range of virus types, so you can get it from one and get it from another the next week.  You might have immunity for a while against the one and none against the rest of them.

Because it mutates rapidly, there is a plethora of types out there different enough not to be recognized.

Inluenza apparently is similar, but each year certain basic strains emerge (in China) and the vaccine is adapted to the major strains isolated from those cultures.  

I can recall several times getting a cold and starting to get well and then getting another cold.  Usually this doesn't happen because with a cold we're less mobile.  I would "dope up" on Vick's and go to work with a cold in general and just stay away from people.  (Sometimes I'd stay away without a cold.)

NPR had a nice piece on influenza virus years ago with the lady at the CDC who headed the team that concocted it each year.  They push the vaccine out widely to develop a level of herd immunity for society.

Publix here gives you a $10 gift card if you get a free flu shot from them.  I'm down with that.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1478 on: April 08, 2020, 07:31:23 AM »
You can sit on it and rotate.

You asked what was my support for the charge that to test God is heretical.  In asking, you accept the validity of God and heresy.  So I cite a fundamental passage from an appropriate text on God and what not to do in one's relationship with God.  So now you don't accept those things, and you go back to being your normal sarcastic smart-ass self about it.

Why should I bother to answer your next question?  There's no point in it.
Yeah, you're assuming about my motive.  You label it sarcastic and smart-ass.  I label it as shedding light on the obvious flaw. 
If I create a text that claims I'm supernatural and then you request evidence, if all I can do is cite my text, that's invalid.  If I'm claiming supreme power and greatness and want to prevent being questioned, yeah, I'm going to forbid anyone questioning it.
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Just trying to open your eyes, friend.
You probably shouldn't answer any of my religious questions, though, if you're unreachable.  That is, if you're going to suspend the rational thinking you apply to EVERY OTHER FACET OF YOUR LIFE for religion, then any conversation is a waste of time.  The willful suspension of rational thinking for this one thing is unfortunate.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1479 on: April 08, 2020, 07:42:55 AM »
He merely notes that the Bible indicates it is wrong to tempt God.  It's part of the canon in effect.  If one if a Christian, it applies, unless you have an alternate Bible.  If you are not a Christian, it only applies when discussing the beliefs of Christianity.

I think it legitimate to use the religious text to validate what a belief is about that specific religion for adherents.

If we discussed what other religions believe, we'd resort to their texts and what their religious leaders have to say about it.  I don't know how else one could do it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1480 on: April 08, 2020, 08:13:07 AM »
Religion talk is worse than politics.

Stop.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1481 on: April 08, 2020, 08:33:17 AM »
This thread has meandered about quite a bit.

I was looking at the projected death toll for Spain, Italy, France, and the UK.  For a population of 230 million, it's 120,000 projected first cycle.

The US with a population of 330 million, it's currently 60,000.  So, it could be worse here than it apparently will be.  The projected number have continued to drop.  I gather R naught is not as high as they expected (guessed?). 

Yesterday's figure in the US showed a spike incidentally, so we're not out of the woods yet.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1482 on: April 08, 2020, 08:45:31 AM »
This thread has meandered about quite a bit.

I was looking at the projected death toll for Spain, Italy, France, and the UK.  For a population of 230 million, it's 120,000 projected first cycle.

The US with a population of 330 million, it's currently 60,000.  So, it could be worse here than it apparently will be.  The projected number have continued to drop.  I gather R naught is not as high as they expected (guessed?).

Yesterday's figure in the US showed a spike incidentally, so we're not out of the woods yet.

Could be real, but a lots of the states/municipalities tend to use Tuesdays to "catch up" on reporting for events that transpired over the weekend.  If we wanted to smooth the data for better trend analysis, we might should be using something like a 3-day rolling average.  But honestly I think it's pretty pointless to try to get a daily snapshot anyway, the data is much more stable about a week later.  

Anyway, overall there is some good news here.  Hopefully we see the peak sooner than expected, and the area under the curve remains lower than expected.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1483 on: April 08, 2020, 08:48:53 AM »
Yeah, the projections have been being lowered of late as we get more data.  So, good news, maybe the distancing is more effective than expected, maybe R naught is lower than expected, maybe some of us have some immunity.

 

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