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bayareabadger

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1022 on: April 02, 2020, 11:24:10 AM »
Or in a lab.
Folks gotta make life more spicy than it probably is. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1023 on: April 02, 2020, 11:25:43 AM »
Folks gotta make life more spicy than it probably is.
Feel free to trust China all you want. I do not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1024 on: April 02, 2020, 11:25:51 AM »
It came from China. It originated in bats.
I just watched on PBS a nature series about Cuba.there were batcolonies in some big cave and they fly out in force at dusk.Turns out there are snakes that hang down in these caves and pick them off as there flying by.Maybe Amazon can get & mail them some of those snakes
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1025 on: April 02, 2020, 11:27:27 AM »
I've always wondered what the phrase "bat shit crazy" meant.

Now I know.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1026 on: April 02, 2020, 11:28:36 AM »
847 bringing his "A" game.Unfortunately humanity had to find out
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1027 on: April 02, 2020, 11:34:18 AM »
From what I understand, a couple of things:

One problem with this thing is that it is TOTALLY different from the typical "Flu" virus.  All of us older than toddlers have some built-up immunity to the Flu.  Now there are different strains of flu and that is why we still get sick but part of the reason that the death rate is fairly low is that we do have some built-up immunity to the flu even if we aren't completely immune to the particular strain in question. 

My understanding is that the reason this is being called "Novel" coronavirus is that it is new to us entirely.  It isn't just a different strain of the usual Flu, this is a totally different virus that we have no built-up immunity to at all.  There are probably already multiple strains of this thing but any survivor of any strain would have at least some built-up residual immunity to other strains. 

I'm not a doctor and that is just from what I've read and my understanding of it.  Also, as always, remember that Abraham Lincoln said to not believe everything you read on the internet. 
Well, the entire family of coronavirii is different than the family of influenza virii. That said, coronavirii are not new. They cause many common colds. 

Swine flu, bird flu, etc are variants of influenza. SARS and MERS are variants of coronavirii.

So this is called "novel" because we've never seen THIS coronavirus, but that doesn't mean we have never seen coronavirii. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1028 on: April 02, 2020, 11:38:42 AM »
The Spanish flu was so named because they were the only government in Europe that wasn't actively involved in World War 1, and as such weren't censoring the news. 

Then we have good news from the good folks down in Rochester: their antibody testing will be ready soon. 

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/04/01/mayo-clinic-expects-covid19-antibody-test-to-be-ready-monday

These are the tests that, once dispatched at scale, will allow for the slow unwinding of the SIP restrictions. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1029 on: April 02, 2020, 11:49:10 AM »
Well, the entire family of coronavirii is different than the family of influenza virii. That said, coronavirii are not new. They cause many common colds.

Swine flu, bird flu, etc are variants of influenza. SARS and MERS are variants of coronavirii.

So this is called "novel" because we've never seen THIS coronavirus, but that doesn't mean we have never seen coronavirii.
Thank you for clearing that up for me.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1030 on: April 02, 2020, 12:07:02 PM »
Feel free to trust China all you want. I do not.
Oh I don’t trust them. But I’m doubtful of the ability to pull off such a dramatic pandemic. When my choices are dramatic and reliant on a high skill level, or stupid and bumbling, I usually guess the latter. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1031 on: April 02, 2020, 12:23:52 PM »
Oh I don’t trust them. But I’m doubtful of the ability to pull off such a dramatic pandemic. When my choices are dramatic and reliant on a high skill level, or stupid and bumbling, I usually guess the latter.
They probably even surprised themselves with the level of "success" they've carried out with this one, after years of failure... :67:
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1032 on: April 02, 2020, 12:44:32 PM »
Oh I don’t trust them. But I’m doubtful of the ability to pull off such a dramatic pandemic. When my choices are dramatic and reliant on a high skill level, or stupid and bumbling, I usually guess the latter.
They know what kind of bat produced this virus and there are no bats of that type anywhere around Wuhan or in the markets. They are however in the two labs near Wuhan. It’s not a draconian theory it was probably just a big accident as several people in those labs openly worked with the blood and body fluids of those bats
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1033 on: April 02, 2020, 04:54:08 PM »
Oh I don’t trust them. But I’m doubtful of the ability to pull off such a dramatic pandemic. When my choices are dramatic and reliant on a high skill level, or stupid and bumbling, I usually guess the latter.
I am generally a strong believer in Hanlon's Razor:
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".  

However, I have my doubts here.  The Chinese National at Harvard getting arrested right as this thing was blowing up and the existence of labs in the Wuhan area certainly make it a valid question.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1034 on: April 02, 2020, 05:25:31 PM »
bat rastards
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