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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8344 on: August 30, 2020, 10:11:18 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8345 on: August 30, 2020, 11:48:32 PM »
thank you coach, may I have another
How many have you had already?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8346 on: August 31, 2020, 12:25:38 AM »
My daughter reports there is a COVID-19 positive test in her graduate program, someone in her classroom section of 15-students. I believe they wear masks indoors at all times, so I think it is low risk for her. The kids rumored it out into the open. No contact tracers called her. Lucky it was caught today (Sunday).  She was supposed to do some type of clinical exercise in a 3-person group with this guy tomorrow.

I suggested someone report this to faculty immediately, on Sunday.  I doubt anyone reported it. We will see how the university handles it. The university's website was reporting "0" cases Friday. Their website says they have protocols in place, but the website does not say what protocols are in place when someone tests positive. Will her section go to remote learning? We'll see.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8347 on: August 31, 2020, 08:41:36 AM »
I'd ask about the false positive rate, but I know it depends on which sort of test was conducted, so we don't know.

Imagine it's as low as just one percent, that still is quite high when you have a group, and conduct testing fairly often.  Take 15 people and test them once a week ...

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8348 on: August 31, 2020, 10:06:19 AM »
My daughter reports there is a COVID-19 positive test in her graduate program, someone in her classroom section of 15-students. I believe they wear masks indoors at all times, so I think it is low risk for her. The kids rumored it out into the open. No contact tracers called her. Lucky it was caught today (Sunday).  She was supposed to do some type of clinical exercise in a 3-person group with this guy tomorrow.

I suggested someone report this to faculty immediately, on Sunday.  I doubt anyone reported it. We will see how the university handles it. The university's website was reporting "0" cases Friday. Their website says they have protocols in place, but the website does not say what protocols are in place when someone tests positive. Will her section go to remote learning? We'll see.
apparently his guy has symptoms and got a test?  or random testing?

lucky it came out
hopefully the University does the safe thing
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8349 on: August 31, 2020, 03:10:29 PM »
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/maricopa-county-health-official-admits-manipulating-covid-19-deaths/

Have no way to find out how many deaths were reported as covid deaths that had nothing to do with it. 

and we have this from the CDC

https://www.bing.com/search?q=6%25+of+covid+deaths+with+non-contributing+factors&cvid=4ac8548bb39c4d5e9e1f7e4f5d71caef&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531

so only 6% of the death by Covid had no contributing factors. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8350 on: August 31, 2020, 03:25:42 PM »
as well as intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events.”

The report has been misinterpreted as these conditions being “underlying,” which is not accurate. They are “contributing” conditions, many of which can be brought about by the virus.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8351 on: August 31, 2020, 03:28:13 PM »
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/maricopa-county-health-official-admits-manipulating-covid-19-deaths/

Have no way to find out how many deaths were reported as covid deaths that had nothing to do with it.

and we have this from the CDC

https://www.bing.com/search?q=6%25+of+covid+deaths+with+non-contributing+factors&cvid=4ac8548bb39c4d5e9e1f7e4f5d71caef&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531

so only 6% of the death by Covid had no contributing factors.

The 6% number is interesting, but without context, it's a bit of hope mongering. Well over one in 10 Americans will have contributing factors. So without a baseline of what percentage of folks could have no contributing factor, it's hard to figure out what that means.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8352 on: August 31, 2020, 03:36:40 PM »
If you subtract virus deaths from total deaths how does that number compare with prior years deaths

if its lower then previous years then virus death may have been inflated
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8353 on: August 31, 2020, 03:55:20 PM »
Deaths of all causes are running at 111% of "normal", and normal is a pretty tight figure.  We have had so far 1.8 million deaths due to all causes in the US this year.  That is about 190,000 over normal.

This "furor" about how the CDC reported COVID deaths is ridiculous.  


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8354 on: August 31, 2020, 03:59:43 PM »
Deaths of all causes are running at 111% of "normal", and normal is a pretty tight figure.  We have had so far 1.8 million deaths due to all causes in the US this year.  That is about 190,000 over normal.

If current US virus deaths are 187,000 and we are 190,000 above normal then thats pretty much in line
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8355 on: August 31, 2020, 04:03:44 PM »
If current US virus deaths are 187,000 and we are 190,000 above normal then thats pretty much in line
Current virus deaths are closer to 168,000.  If anything, we may be undercounting.  People do die at home obviously.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8356 on: August 31, 2020, 04:07:54 PM »
Contributing factors can include diabetes, obesity, heart disease or respiratory issues.

Percentage of the US population with:


  • Diabetes: 9.4%
  • Obesity: 42.4%
  • Heart disease: anywhere from 9% to 48% depending how you classify it
  • Respiratory issues: can't find a "total" number but asthma is maybe 8% and COPD another 5%

Now, obviously some people may have multiple of these. 

But if the argument is that "unhealthy" or "high-risk" people should lock themselves at home so the healthy people can do whatever they want, that's probably >50% of the US. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8357 on: August 31, 2020, 04:09:12 PM »
Current virus deaths are closer to 168,000.  If anything, we may be undercounting.  People do die at home obviously. 
not according to my source


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

not sure where you are getting 168,000
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