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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7658 on: August 02, 2020, 05:23:04 PM »
Influenza should be distinguishable in any test from Corona Virus.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7659 on: August 02, 2020, 05:26:21 PM »
Influenza should be distinguishable in any test from Corona Virus.
I would agree. But this was last September?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7660 on: August 02, 2020, 05:28:07 PM »
I would agree. But this was last September?
I doubt a viral test could confuse influenza and corona, but I could be wrong here.

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« Reply #7661 on: August 02, 2020, 05:29:48 PM »
Makes me wonder.    Last September, I made my annual trek to northern Michigan for golf weekend with 20 or so HS/ sports buds.  It might be the thing I look forward to most all year, sans CFB.  Last year I went in early to spend a couple days with mom. 

So I had been there for five days and out of the blue I started feeling really sick. Very fatigued shortness of breath aches and chills and a little bit of nausea.  I went to an urgent clinic up there and told the doctor I had what felt like the flu and he commented that they hadn’t seen flu since the spring and he sincerely doubted that it was.  But, I have a very unpleasant nose swab which can tell us in about 10 minutes so he did a test. He walks back in and says “ I’ll be damned- you have Flu B- which is even more rare. We’re you on a plane?” 

so I explained that yes- it was a 3 flight trip.  Palm beach- to Atlanta to Detroit to Traverse City.
Is it possible it was around then and it just wasn’t identified?
I think it's possible, but probably more likely November when it started coming in from China, in CA and WA.

I wish we could know, somehow, but we probably will never get answers from the CCP on when this really started.
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« Reply #7662 on: August 02, 2020, 05:30:57 PM »
Have you checked their numbers lately?
OAM has no answers he's perfectly content sucking the Government tit.When the damage done to the private sector - you know the people who pays his bills is beyond repair he'll be belching how come they couldn't see this all along.Time to open up before it's too late.Let school be online if that satisfies the waif but the mfg/retail/restuarants work force has to go back
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7663 on: August 02, 2020, 05:32:37 PM »
I did and still think it should be up to states to make their decisions, and further base those decisions on regions within each state. I'm thinking it would be prudent for states to consider the demographics of communities while making decisions.

Places like Illinois had statewide mandates. The people not located in or around Chicago suffered greatly. Did they need to? When Chicago became a hot spot was before the mandate. I suspect it got to be a hot spot in late December or early January, as people returned from travel abroad (and many other passed through ORD on their way elsewhere). I remember photos showing >5000 people lined up, tightly, in the customs area at ORD when travel to Europe was closed and everyone came back immediately. This was when we were told to not wear masks because they did no good.

Then you have Florida, which did a gradual re-opening, earlier than many states. When we first arrived down there, we could not eat inside or outside at any restaurant (not that we were eager to anyway). People gradually let their guard down and started trying to get back to normal. These people generally come from two age groups - the 65 and over and the 39 and under. This is based on what I witnessed while still there, and on what I can gather from the various newspapers around the state.

Since June 1:

Cases are way up (but now trending down) because of the 39 and under crowd going to bars. Deaths are up (looks like a plateau is upon us) because the 65 and over crowd got tired of staying home.

Level of positivity has been trending down for a month now, from 15% at the end of June to 11% at the end of July. That's good.
You left out one big thing.  The eruption of new cases Clearly started in Miami/Laderdale, Palm Beach, Orlando, and Tampa/ St Pete. These area all had extremely large and frequent, and sometimes destructive protests.
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« Reply #7664 on: August 02, 2020, 05:43:38 PM »
You left out one big thing.  The eruption of new cases Clearly started in Miami/Laderdale, Palm Beach, Orlando, and Tampa/ St Pete. These area all had extremely large and frequent, and sometimes destructive protests.
These are mostly the <39 age group, so I figured I wouldn't mention it. People protesting in Florida were mostly not wearing masks. Too hot.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7666 on: August 02, 2020, 06:34:58 PM »
OAM has no answers he's perfectly content sucking the Government tit.When the damage done to the private sector - you know the people who pays his bills is beyond repair he'll be belching how come they couldn't see this all along.Time to open up before it's too late.Let school be online if that satisfies the waif but the mfg/retail/restuarants work force has to go back
This is the 2nd time I've been shit on for being a public school teacher.  It only reflects poorly on you.
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« Reply #7667 on: August 02, 2020, 06:37:33 PM »
I seem to be an oddity in that there's what I want (back to normalcy, teaching in person), seeing that it's imprudent to do that, and accepting the alternative (online learning, and all that it entails).  Despite hating it, despite being rushed the trainings and programs needed to do it halfway decent, etc...I choose it, because it's the only logical route right now.

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« Reply #7668 on: August 02, 2020, 06:42:59 PM »
I seem to be an oddity in that there's what I want (back to normalcy, teaching in person), seeing that it's imprudent to do that, and accepting the alternative (online learning, and all that it entails).  Despite hating it, despite being rushed the trainings and programs needed to do it halfway decent, etc...I choose it, because it's the only logical route right now.


What do you think about online teaching? Not like whether it's good or bad but what do you like and dislike? I'm trying to be more organized about it this fall but would like a teacher's thoughts on what they prefer/hate.

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« Reply #7669 on: August 02, 2020, 06:46:22 PM »
This is the 2nd time I've been shit on for being a public school teacher.  It only reflects poorly on you.
You're a condescending,misguided dick I don't care what you do for a living.Like you even care about the positions lost because to you they're not necessary or expendable because of your polluted inflated  view of yourself
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7670 on: August 02, 2020, 08:38:27 PM »
So, IF this is correct, what does it suggest out course should be?  Open everything up except "retirement homes"?

I dunno.  Sweden was not entirely open, and Swedes mostly behaved sensibly, so it wasn't business as usual.  But their experience, much derided early on, appears to have paid off.
Paid off how?  They've lost more people and have no better economic news than the other Scandinavian countries.  What's the upside?

EDIT: A guick Google search reveals stories from the last couple of weeks that are encouraging for Sweden, but don't seem particularly applicable to the USA.  87% of the population is complying with social-distancing rules, for one thing.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7671 on: August 02, 2020, 09:30:54 PM »
You're a condescending,misguided dick I don't care what you do for a living.Like you even care about the positions lost because to you they're not necessary or expendable because of your polluted inflated  view of yourself
lol

You're frothing.
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