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Influenza should be distinguishable in any test from Corona Virus.

I would agree. But this was last September?

Makes me wonder.    Last September, I made my annual trek to northern Michigan for golf weekend with 20 or so HS/ sports buds.  It might be the thing I look forward to most all year, sans CFB.  Last year I went in early to spend a couple days with mom. 

So I had been there for five days and out of the blue I started feeling really sick. Very fatigued shortness of breath aches and chills and a little bit of nausea.  I went to an urgent clinic up there and told the doctor I had what felt like the flu and he commented that they hadn’t seen flu since the spring and he sincerely doubted that it was.  But, I have a very unpleasant nose swab which can tell us in about 10 minutes so he did a test. He walks back in and says “ I’ll be damned- you have Flu B- which is even more rare. We’re you on a plane?” 

so I explained that yes- it was a 3 flight trip.  Palm beach- to Atlanta to Detroit to Traverse City.
Is it possible it was around then and it just wasn’t identified?

I think it's possible, but probably more likely November when it started coming in from China, in CA and WA.

I wish we could know, somehow, but we probably will never get answers from the CCP on when this really started.

I did and still think it should be up to states to make their decisions, and further base those decisions on regions within each state. I'm thinking it would be prudent for states to consider the demographics of communities while making decisions.

Places like Illinois had statewide mandates. The people not located in or around Chicago suffered greatly. Did they need to? When Chicago became a hot spot was before the mandate. I suspect it got to be a hot spot in late December or early January, as people returned from travel abroad (and many other passed through ORD on their way elsewhere). I remember photos showing >5000 people lined up, tightly, in the customs area at ORD when travel to Europe was closed and everyone came back immediately. This was when we were told to not wear masks because they did no good.

Then you have Florida, which did a gradual re-opening, earlier than many states. When we first arrived down there, we could not eat inside or outside at any restaurant (not that we were eager to anyway). People gradually let their guard down and started trying to get back to normal. These people generally come from two age groups - the 65 and over and the 39 and under. This is based on what I witnessed while still there, and on what I can gather from the various newspapers around the state.

Since June 1:

Cases are way up (but now trending down) because of the 39 and under crowd going to bars. Deaths are up (looks like a plateau is upon us) because the 65 and over crowd got tired of staying home.

Level of positivity has been trending down for a month now, from 15% at the end of June to 11% at the end of July. That's good.

You left out one big thing.  The eruption of new cases Clearly started in Miami/Laderdale, Palm Beach, Orlando, and Tampa/ St Pete. These area all had extremely large and frequent, and sometimes destructive protests.

I seem to be an oddity in that there's what I want (back to normalcy, teaching in person), seeing that it's imprudent to do that, and accepting the alternative (online learning, and all that it entails).  Despite hating it, despite being rushed the trainings and programs needed to do it halfway decent, etc...I choose it, because it's the only logical route right now.

This is the 2nd time I've been shit on for being a public school teacher.  It only reflects poorly on you.

You're a condescending,misguided dick I don't care what you do for a living.Like you even care about the positions lost because to you they're not necessary or expendable because of your polluted inflated  view of yourself

You're a condescending,misguided dick I don't care what you do for a living.Like you even care about the positions lost because to you they're not necessary or expendable because of your polluted inflated  view of yourself

lol

You're frothing.