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OrangeAfroMan

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Slow RBs
« on: July 11, 2019, 05:19:49 PM »
I was watching some old games on youtube, and I found there have been a lot of good, productive, SLOW running backs.  In the 2006 Florida-Alabama game, each team had one:  DeShawn Wynn always looked like he was hobbling around, never actually running, much less running fast.  And Kenneth Darby, a guy many probably don't even remember, had two 1,000 yard season for Bama.
These are guys that might have run a 4.6 or 4.65 or something at the combine or their pro day, but on a normal day, in a game, they're running 4.7 or worse...and still getting yards.  Many may be bigger guys, but not necessarily.
Florida's all-time leading rusher was slow as hell - Errict Rhett.  He weighed 215 but played like he was 240.
Dayne was slow, but a bowling ball, obviously.
Mike Hart
Cory Clement
Anthony Thomas
PJ Hill
Darnell Autry
Keith Byars
All those Minnesota RBs when they had 2-3 get 1000 yd seasons like 15 years ago
Non- B10ers:
Anthony Dixon (Miss St)
Benny Snell (UK)
Shaun Alexander (Bama)
Neal Anderson
Ernest Graham (Fla)
Travis Henry (Tenn)
Stephen Davis (Aub)
Rodney Hampton (UGA)
Raymond Priester (Clem)
Leon Johnson (UNC)
James Connor (Pitt)
Tashard Choice (GT)
Terry Kirby (UVa)
Natrone Means (UNC)
Greg Jones (FSU) - turned himself into a giant bodybuilder, like David Boston
Cedric Benson - Texas - probably the slowest uber-productive college back that wasn't fat
Jorvorskie Lane - A&M
Ka'Deem Carey - Arizona
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Any others?
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2019, 05:26:55 PM »
Alstott was somewhere in the 4.65-4.7 range. But like Dayne, quite the bowling ball. 
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2019, 05:39:55 PM »
Michigan had some slow ones. UNL. MSU. PSU. Iowa has had its share too. They all have. Where do you find how fast/slow these guys were?
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 05:49:20 PM »
Mike Hart is still by far my favorite Michigan RB. It helps that we shared campus at the same time, but I think it's mostly how I've never seen a lower variance back at any level of football. Did he ever have a regular season fumble? Also his YPC standard deviation could honestly have been zero and no one could tell the difference. For my fandom of him, it'd be good to see, for the last few decades, "lowest percentage of negative yard and zero yard plays." No matter what happened in front of him, he earned the same yardage and kept the team ahead of schedule.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 05:52:28 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 11, 2019, 05:39:55 PM
Michigan had some slow ones. UNL. MSU. PSU. Iowa has had its share too. They all have. Where do you find how fast/slow these guys were?
I just hit the googles. Had links discussion to Alstott's combine results and apparently the Bucs said he was like a 4.74.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2019, 06:27:04 PM »
http://bluenatic.blogspot.com/2008/04/remembering-rodney.html

Says Hampton had a 4.65 40 time.  I think some of these guys were relatively faster in pads than some 4.5 safety running in shorts having to play in pads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjVkSOpUBQo

Herschel claims to be able to run a 4.35 - now.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 06:32:31 PM »
Wynn was actually a 4.49 guy. 

On the Wisconsin front. I forgot Clement was that bad at the 40. He had decent breakaway speed, but was not that good his last year. 

Hill was a big, 4.6 40 back who wasn’t that powerful and kinda relied on breaking longish ones. He is truly the example of the UW O-line making someone. 

Dayne was surprisingly nimble and hit you with the 30-40 yard back breakers when he smushed a safety and didn’t go down. In the 1999 OSU game, there’s a hilarious play when he’s chased down. 

I don’t think Montee ball was that fast, but he was crafty and modestly powerful. 
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2019, 06:47:38 PM »
Some guys have great vision, some are very shifty (Knowshon Moreno was not very fast), some guys are very powerful, the real speedsters may not be that good if they don't have aspects of those other things.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 06:55:03 PM »
For OU, Samaje Perrine, who came out after the '17 season and is now with the Redskins, is not all that fast.

And the 1969 Heisman winner, Steve Owens, was not all that fast.

In my memory, Texas RB Roosevelt Leaks, who was great and set a ton of records, wasn't all that fast.


How about a thread for fast FBs?  OU had some of those back in the wishbone days.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 07:03:06 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 11, 2019, 06:32:31 PM
Wynn was actually a 4.49 guy.

He may have been, but good god, actually watching him play every game...he ran like he had a club foot.  I'm not joking.  He'd lumber about, never actually sprinting in a line.  it was odd.  He came from Ohio and he was the starting RB when we won the NC vs OSU.  I know it was his way to maximize yardage, but I haven't seen anyone quite like him, in terms of style.


Looked like he was stepping on LEGOs barefoot.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 07:40:40 PM »
Tyreese Knox.  I never thought Corell buckhalter was that fast, hed run 10 yards and fall over.

Lydell Carr was a badass FB for OU.  All timer.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2019, 08:45:02 PM »
If you don't weigh at least 230, MSU has no interest in you.
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 08:25:14 AM »
Was Barry Sanders notably fast?  Shifty, obviously, but did he have straight line speed to burn?
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Re: Slow RBs
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 08:26:32 AM »
Yeah, I want to say he ran a 4.37.
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