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Topic: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)

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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2019, 12:16:19 PM »
Yep. 

UW has system QB's, system RB's, system WR's, system TE's, system OL's, system DL's, system LB's, and system DB's.

They even have system kickers and system punters.
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2019, 12:17:44 PM »
Not sure if this was otherwise out there, but the ESPN College Football podcast had the Peach Bowl CEO on, and he said that after selecting the 4 CFP teams, they went to the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton Bowls, who had potential automatic tie ins, as to who they would select.

That seems kind of weird to me.  I don't care per se, but it basically tells you that the bowls are still selecting the teams, not the rankings.  Wisconsin was kept ahead of Penn State, because that's who the Rose Bowl wanted.  Georgia was kept ahead of Florida(?) because the Sugar Bowl wanted them.  And if the Cotton Bowl had wanted Appalachian State, would the committee have then jumped them over Memphis?
I'm pretty sure that the Cotton Bowl was obligated to take the highest-ranked (per CFP rankings) G5 conference champion.
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2019, 12:23:24 PM »
System long snappers too.

I find, in general, fans of the other team generally are rather confident about the upcoming bowl games.

Half of them, more or less, will be wrong.


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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2019, 12:41:00 PM »
I'm pretty sure that the Cotton Bowl was obligated to take the highest-ranked (per CFP rankings) G5 conference champion.
Right, but I believe that's the case across the board.  So if the Rose Bowl had wanted Penn State, they would have been ranked ahead of Wisconsin.  If Sugar had wanted Florida, they would have been ranked ahead of Georgia.  He mentioned they consulted the Cotton Bowl too, so I'm wondering if they verified which G5 champ they wanted.  So if they wanted Boise State, would Boise have magically jumped over Memphis in the rankings?

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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2019, 12:43:00 PM »
Those bowls are not required to take the highest ranking team. It is a guide only. I don't think the playoff wonks changed any rankings to favor UW in this case.

I was told the Rose would have been happy with either PSU or UW (a Tournament of Roses committee member told me - a PSU alum). They went with the higher-ranked team, which they are happy with, regardless.
I think ranking their preferred team higher makes the optics better though.  He confirmed that the committee consulted the bowls before completing their rankings.  There would be no other reason to do so.


Should a team from the Big Ten or Pac-12 be selected to go to the College Football Playoff, the Tournament of Roses will traditionally select the next-highest CFP-ranked team from that conference. There is, however, a caveat to that clause in the contract.

“If the next-highest ranked team is in a ‘cluster’ of teams, meaning there is another team or teams from the same conference ranked within several spots of each other, the Tournament of Roses will select the team from that cluster that will result in the best possible matchup for the Rose Bowl Game,” said Rose Bowl Management Committee Chair Scott Jenkins.

In a cluster situation, the Tournament of Roses will take into account factors, in no particular order, such as: the last time a team played in the Rose Bowl Game, head-to-head results, regular season schedule, overall record, opponents played, past playoff or bowl appearances and performance, and historical matchups.

It should be noted that it is the strong preference of the Tournament of Roses, Pac-12 and Big Ten Conferences, that the highest-ranked available team in each conference be selected as the replacement team.


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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2019, 01:49:55 PM »
I think ranking their preferred team higher makes the optics better though.  He confirmed that the committee consulted the bowls before completing their rankings.  There would be no other reason to do so.


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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2019, 02:16:57 PM »
It's almost as if programs have systems. And successful programs have successful systems.

Mind. Blown.

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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2019, 10:38:20 AM »
I'm really looking forward to this one. UW has been to 3 Rose Bowls this decade and has not won. They really need this one as a program.
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2019, 10:51:35 AM »
get that nasty defense off the bus and it's a big win
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2019, 11:01:31 AM »
I worry about the corners being able to cover those speedy Oregon WR's. I do have a lot of confidence in the front 7 and I don't think Oregon will be able to run the ball much. Hopefully they can get pressure on that QB, to take some heat off the corners.

The Badgers on offense just need to grind them down and use play-action to hit in the passing game. Don't get too cute. No trick plays. Just grind.
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2019, 11:04:31 AM »
Ed Zachery

If the corners are having trouble covering, send them on the blitz!
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2019, 11:59:44 AM »
I like The Badgers in this one. If the LBs are healthy- throw some zone in the backend- take away the run, and make Oregon work down the field slowly. 
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2019, 12:01:33 PM »
All the LB's are good to go in this one. Losing Burks and Orr (more so) really hurt in Indy.
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Re: Rose Bowl: #6 Oregon (11-2) vs. #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2019, 12:27:27 PM »
All the LB's are good to go in this one. Losing Burks and Orr (more so) really hurt in Indy.
Exactly why I said that.  The difference was notable.  I think if the badgers can avoid giving up big plays in the pass game, it turns this into a Wisconsin favorable pace.   

Get those LBs on Herbert fast so they have only quick passes, and be in zone to eliminate YAC.  

I feel like Wisconsin can move the ball and score at a decent pace.
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